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Quote from: Stadler on November 20, 2019, 09:26:44 AMQuote from: MirrorMask on November 20, 2019, 08:11:04 AMQuote from: cramx3 on November 20, 2019, 07:50:02 AMAs long as they aren't rotating in the vocally challenging songs, I'd think he has it easiest in terms of adjusting to rotating setlists. Maybe I'm wrong, but I would think pulling out crazy solos you don't normally play would be harder than to remember the words and melody to the same song.Yeah, it definitively takes less work to re-learn the lyrics to Octavarium than how to play the whole damn song.With a teleprompter, sure. since that was brought up and I just brought up how it's probably easier for Billy Corgan to do 65 different songs.... he uses an ipad with all the lyrics. You can clearly see the lyrics in my videos. I wonder how much he actually reads them though. Also, Aerosmith had a teleprompter at the Vegas residency show I went too. I thought that was kind of ridiculous considering how many times has Aerosmith played the same songs. I captured a shot of the teleprompter in my video as well.
Quote from: MirrorMask on November 20, 2019, 08:11:04 AMQuote from: cramx3 on November 20, 2019, 07:50:02 AMAs long as they aren't rotating in the vocally challenging songs, I'd think he has it easiest in terms of adjusting to rotating setlists. Maybe I'm wrong, but I would think pulling out crazy solos you don't normally play would be harder than to remember the words and melody to the same song.Yeah, it definitively takes less work to re-learn the lyrics to Octavarium than how to play the whole damn song.With a teleprompter, sure.
Quote from: cramx3 on November 20, 2019, 07:50:02 AMAs long as they aren't rotating in the vocally challenging songs, I'd think he has it easiest in terms of adjusting to rotating setlists. Maybe I'm wrong, but I would think pulling out crazy solos you don't normally play would be harder than to remember the words and melody to the same song.Yeah, it definitively takes less work to re-learn the lyrics to Octavarium than how to play the whole damn song.
As long as they aren't rotating in the vocally challenging songs, I'd think he has it easiest in terms of adjusting to rotating setlists. Maybe I'm wrong, but I would think pulling out crazy solos you don't normally play would be harder than to remember the words and melody to the same song.
I found that, while generally I'm quite good at remembering many lyrics, my problem is mainly with specific songs. There are songs that, no matter what, I could never get into my head, while other songs I learn the lyrics basically on the fly.
This first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.
I remember singing "Where Have All The Good Times Gone" in my band in high school, and in front of the whole school I forgot the fourth verse and just resang various lines from the first three. I was really pissed but everyone I mentioned it to had zero clue that anything was going on.
Quote from: Stadler on November 20, 2019, 09:37:02 AMI remember singing "Where Have All The Good Times Gone" in my band in high school, and in front of the whole school I forgot the fourth verse and just resang various lines from the first three. I was really pissed but everyone I mentioned it to had zero clue that anything was going on. I've definitely seen JLB do this before, and other singers, but usually in those cases everyone notices what just happened And to go back to Billy again, he sang the chorus too early in Silvery Sometimes and stopped the song to joke about it and then started over. Also blamed the crowd for the fuck up, so funny. THIS is why I love live music that's not to a click or to a static set. Going to go down somewhere in my top 10 concert moments this year.Sorry for bringing him back up into this discussion, just very much in my head today.
Zook is right.
Quote from: cramx3 on November 20, 2019, 09:57:08 AMQuote from: Stadler on November 20, 2019, 09:37:02 AMI remember singing "Where Have All The Good Times Gone" in my band in high school, and in front of the whole school I forgot the fourth verse and just resang various lines from the first three. I was really pissed but everyone I mentioned it to had zero clue that anything was going on. I've definitely seen JLB do this before, and other singers, but usually in those cases everyone notices what just happened And to go back to Billy again, he sang the chorus too early in Silvery Sometimes and stopped the song to joke about it and then started over. Also blamed the crowd for the fuck up, so funny. THIS is why I love live music that's not to a click or to a static set. Going to go down somewhere in my top 10 concert moments this year.Sorry for bringing him back up into this discussion, just very much in my head today.Alternatively, you can do this which still makes me laugh five years after the fact
There was some release of Metallica with live songs in the past 10 years (I think) where during Ride The Lightning, just sings "I forgot the f****king words"And that one made it on an official release.
Oh shit, you're right!rumborak
Quote from: Adami on November 21, 2019, 07:17:09 AMThere was some release of Metallica with live songs in the past 10 years (I think) where during Ride The Lightning, just sings "I forgot the f****king words"And that one made it on an official release.There's something similar on a Devin Townsend live album too, can't recall off my head which song or which live album but he messes up the lyrics and acknowledges it in the song and it made the official release.
Also, doesn't get talked about much but on BE live by PoS, they mess up the lyrics Lilium Cruentus.
Also, doesn't get talked about much but on BE live by PoS, they mess up the lyrics in Lilium Cruentus.
Alternatively, you can do this which still makes me laugh five years after the fact
Don't try to BS her about Kevin Moore facts, she will obscure quote you in the face.
Quote from: Adami on November 21, 2019, 08:46:48 AMAlso, doesn't get talked about much but on BE live by PoS, they mess up the lyrics in Lilium Cruentus.I think it doesn't get talked about much because at that time the lyrics for the whole album weren't finished so I (and probably other people) figured Daniel was just ad-libbing the unfinished part, rather than messing up the finished part.Quote from: Evermind on November 20, 2019, 10:02:45 AMAlternatively, you can do this which still makes me laugh five years after the fact Lol I died Does anyone know of that video late in the MP years, where they are playing PMU and everyone starts fucking up and JLB says "we only did this song about 3000 fucking times"?
Quote from: Adami on November 21, 2019, 08:46:48 AMAlso, doesn't get talked about much but on BE live by PoS, they mess up the lyrics Lilium Cruentus.I'm not sure I even understand what that sentence means, so I'm not surprised that it isn't talked about much.
Quote from: bosk1 on November 21, 2019, 08:52:58 AMQuote from: Adami on November 21, 2019, 08:46:48 AMAlso, doesn't get talked about much but on BE live by PoS, they mess up the lyrics Lilium Cruentus.I'm not sure I even understand what that sentence means, so I'm not surprised that it isn't talked about much. Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the V.P. is such a V.I.P., shouldn't we keep the P.C. on the Q.T.? 'Cause of the leaks to the V.C. he could end up M.I.A., and then we'd all be put out in K.P.
Quote from: MoraWintersoul on November 21, 2019, 10:04:12 AMQuote from: Adami on November 21, 2019, 08:46:48 AMAlso, doesn't get talked about much but on BE live by PoS, they mess up the lyrics in Lilium Cruentus.I think it doesn't get talked about much because at that time the lyrics for the whole album weren't finished so I (and probably other people) figured Daniel was just ad-libbing the unfinished part, rather than messing up the finished part.Quote from: Evermind on November 20, 2019, 10:02:45 AMAlternatively, you can do this which still makes me laugh five years after the fact Lol I died Does anyone know of that video late in the MP years, where they are playing PMU and everyone starts fucking up and JLB says "we only did this song about 3000 fucking times"?Oh I think it was actual Johann who messed it up and Daniel started off with the right lyrics but switched to the wrong ones quickly when he realize Johann was doing it wrong.
Lol I died Does anyone know of that video late in the MP years, where they are playing PMU and everyone starts fucking up and JLB says "we only did this song about 3000 fucking times"?
Quote from: Adami on November 21, 2019, 10:08:36 AMQuote from: MoraWintersoul on November 21, 2019, 10:04:12 AMQuote from: Adami on November 21, 2019, 08:46:48 AMAlso, doesn't get talked about much but on BE live by PoS, they mess up the lyrics in Lilium Cruentus.I think it doesn't get talked about much because at that time the lyrics for the whole album weren't finished so I (and probably other people) figured Daniel was just ad-libbing the unfinished part, rather than messing up the finished part.Quote from: Evermind on November 20, 2019, 10:02:45 AMAlternatively, you can do this which still makes me laugh five years after the fact Lol I died Does anyone know of that video late in the MP years, where they are playing PMU and everyone starts fucking up and JLB says "we only did this song about 3000 fucking times"?Oh I think it was actual Johann who messed it up and Daniel started off with the right lyrics but switched to the wrong ones quickly when he realize Johann was doing it wrong.I'm gonna listen to it now. Never noticed really.
Quote from: Ben_Jamin on November 21, 2019, 10:23:05 AMQuote from: Adami on November 21, 2019, 10:08:36 AMQuote from: MoraWintersoul on November 21, 2019, 10:04:12 AMQuote from: Adami on November 21, 2019, 08:46:48 AMAlso, doesn't get talked about much but on BE live by PoS, they mess up the lyrics in Lilium Cruentus.I think it doesn't get talked about much because at that time the lyrics for the whole album weren't finished so I (and probably other people) figured Daniel was just ad-libbing the unfinished part, rather than messing up the finished part.Quote from: Evermind on November 20, 2019, 10:02:45 AMAlternatively, you can do this which still makes me laugh five years after the fact Lol I died Does anyone know of that video late in the MP years, where they are playing PMU and everyone starts fucking up and JLB says "we only did this song about 3000 fucking times"?Oh I think it was actual Johann who messed it up and Daniel started off with the right lyrics but switched to the wrong ones quickly when he realize Johann was doing it wrong.I'm gonna listen to it now. Never noticed really.Yea, it's supposed to be "Life seems too small, when death takes it's toll, I need something to blame for this pain" which I think they got right the 2nd time around, but the first time (2nd half) it's "Life seems too small, when death takes this pain"
Quote from: Lynxo on November 19, 2019, 02:07:49 AMI feel like one important thing is missing from the rotating set list discussion - Dream Theater did the rotating set lists not only to play different songs in different cities but also to also make sure that the same city on multiple tours didn't get repeats. Didn't catch Root Of All Evil on the Octavarium tour? Then there might be a high chance it would be played on the tour after that.That, to me, was always super cool and encouraged going to see them on every single tour.Another reason I say Dream Theater fans were spoiled with the set lists. I will always say it. You east coast guys are fortunate to get 2 legs at not-so-distant venues, and choose which one to attend. I enjoyed that Portnoy decided to do this with the sets. But currently, I'm enjoying the sets DT are churning out.
I feel like one important thing is missing from the rotating set list discussion - Dream Theater did the rotating set lists not only to play different songs in different cities but also to also make sure that the same city on multiple tours didn't get repeats. Didn't catch Root Of All Evil on the Octavarium tour? Then there might be a high chance it would be played on the tour after that.That, to me, was always super cool and encouraged going to see them on every single tour.
Does Portnoy still maintain a master schedule of all of his projects somewhere? A search only shows stuff back to '18?
Quote from: El Barto on December 11, 2019, 08:56:05 AMDoes Portnoy still maintain a master schedule of all of his projects somewhere? A search only shows stuff back to '18?His FB:https://www.facebook.com/mikeportnoyofficial/posts/2639127959438163?__tn__=K-R
Quote from: MinistroRaven on December 11, 2019, 03:09:47 PMQuote from: El Barto on December 11, 2019, 08:56:05 AMDoes Portnoy still maintain a master schedule of all of his projects somewhere? A search only shows stuff back to '18?His FB:https://www.facebook.com/mikeportnoyofficial/posts/2639127959438163?__tn__=K-RThanks. I was hoping for 2020. You'd think he'd just continue updating as he plans stuff. Sneak preview? WTF?
I asked him about his relationship with Derek