Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts

[Sycsa]

As for CDs they've become a bit obsolete in my world. With streaming services everywhere, CDs feel like a blast from the past. I mean, who needs a whole stack of discs when you can have your entire music library at your fingertips?

Well, that's the problem for me.  Streaming services are NOT, in fact, "everywhere."  I am regularly in places where there is no Internet service, and thus no ability to stream, and I'm not the only one.  So I've never understood the position that streaming is all you need.

IDK about Spotify, but with Apple Music you can download everything to your phone just as easily as you can stream and play it back without an internet connection.

[Zydar]

As for CDs they've become a bit obsolete in my world. With streaming services everywhere, CDs feel like a blast from the past. I mean, who needs a whole stack of discs when you can have your entire music library at your fingertips?

Well, that's the problem for me.  Streaming services are NOT, in fact, "everywhere."  I am regularly in places where there is no Internet service, and thus no ability to stream, and I'm not the only one.  So I've never understood the position that streaming is all you need.

IDK about Spotify, but with Apple Music you can download everything to your phone just as easily as you can stream and play it back without an internet connection.

Exactly, I use offline playlists a lot. Especially when I'm out walking.

[Madman Shepherd]

I like vinyl, the artwork on those record sleeves, it's like holding a piece of art in your hands. Plus, there's a certain warmth to the sound that you just can't replicate.

As fo become a bit obsolete in my world. With streaming services everywhere, CDs feel like a blast from the past. I mean, who needs a whole stack of discs when you can have your entire music library at your fingertips?

Fair point, but for me streaming is complimentary - i prefer to own a physical product (vinyl, CD) - both to "hopefully" give something back to the artist (which is why i buy merch after shows, or directly ordering from the artists).

It's convenient, but sound quality is questionable (at least for some services like Spotify).
And it's not ownership of the media, so i prefer to rip my CDs/Vinyls to have them available when offline as well.

Same here. In addition, I always read the liner notes, thank yous, lyrics and art. Of course a lot of bands phone it in with that stuff, but rather than pick and choose I just get it all. I don't trust technology and yeah, my media collection is a big burden in some ways but there's comfort knowing I can always just grab it off the shelf or use it ad a conversation starter.

I'm the same way with books but have far fewer though still in the hundreds

[bosk1]

As for CDs they've become a bit obsolete in my world. With streaming services everywhere, CDs feel like a blast from the past. I mean, who needs a whole stack of discs when you can have your entire music library at your fingertips?

Well, that's the problem for me.  Streaming services are NOT, in fact, "everywhere."  I am regularly in places where there is no Internet service, and thus no ability to stream, and I'm not the only one.  So I've never understood the position that streaming is all you need.

IDK about Spotify, but with Apple Music you can download everything to your phone just as easily as you can stream and play it back without an internet connection.

Exactly, I use offline playlists a lot. Especially when I'm out walking.

That would be great...if Android had a similar analog to Apple Music.

[goo-goo]

You can download songs into your phone with  Spotify if you pay for the subscription.

[Metro]

Streaming is convenient until it isn’t. I follow a lot of band subreddits on Reddit, and I’m always seeing people complaining “Album X isn’t available on Spotify anymore” or stuff like that.

[OpenYourEyes311]

Urinetown lol

Incredibly funny and argute musical dealing with politics, capitalism, and water shortage in a dystopian future. Highly recommended.

I've been in Urinetown twice! Once in college, and once just last year! Fun show to be in, Melody's probably having a blast!

[Madman Shepherd]

Streaming is convenient until it isn’t. I follow a lot of band subreddits on Reddit, and I’m always seeing people complaining “Album X isn’t available on Spotify anymore” or stuff like that.

Bingo. They can change what they want when they want. The algorithm can change to make it harder to listen to bands you want because other bands or labels will pay to get their stuff heard first. Only a matter of time before they start putting adds *in* songs, unless you pay the super deluxe premium platinum prescription

[TheOutlawXanadu]

Love the love for Deep Purple.  Count me in!

All right!

Since the vibe here got so Purple, allow me to share this one minute clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4OtLAnHOmo
It speaks volumes about the level of musical joy they still have at 75-78. I saw them last year and was a bit concerned because of their age, but they absolutely put on my favorite show so far, and I saw them plenty of times since 2007. I'm going again this year, I highly recommend everyone to check them out while the sun still shines.

I hope DT will have a similar longevity.

What an awesome clip. I saw someone not Steve Morse playing guitar and got super confused. Just learned he left a couple of years back because his wife has cancer. Best of luck to them both, that's really rough. My heart goes out to them.

[goo-goo]

Streaming is convenient until it isn’t. I follow a lot of band subreddits on Reddit, and I’m always seeing people complaining “Album X isn’t available on Spotify anymore” or stuff like that.

That is more of a contractual/digital rights issue than just "it's not available anymore". The rights vary by artists, labels, regions, etc.

[Stadler]

Streaming is convenient until it isn’t. I follow a lot of band subreddits on Reddit, and I’m always seeing people complaining “Album X isn’t available on Spotify anymore” or stuff like that.

That is more of a contractual/digital rights issue than just "it's not available anymore". The rights vary by artists, labels, regions, etc.

Not always. I really don't like streaming because I don't always know what version I'm going to get.  When Ozzy changed the Blizzard/Diary tracks, I theoretically couldn't get the originals.  In theory, of course, because in reality I had the physical CD and could listen to them any time I wanted! 

[goo-goo]

Streaming is convenient until it isn’t. I follow a lot of band subreddits on Reddit, and I’m always seeing people complaining “Album X isn’t available on Spotify anymore” or stuff like that.

That is more of a contractual/digital rights issue than just "it's not available anymore". The rights vary by artists, labels, regions, etc.

Not always. I really don't like streaming because I don't always know what version I'm going to get.  When Ozzy changed the Blizzard/Diary tracks, I theoretically couldn't get the originals.  In theory, of course, because in reality I had the physical CD and could listen to them any time I wanted! 

True. The way Apple Music handles that is you go to the album, then you scroll to the very bottom and you can se "Other Versions" of that album. But yes, you are right, not every version is available.

[Samsara]

Streaming is convenient until it isn’t. I follow a lot of band subreddits on Reddit, and I’m always seeing people complaining “Album X isn’t available on Spotify anymore” or stuff like that.

That is more of a contractual/digital rights issue than just "it's not available anymore". The rights vary by artists, labels, regions, etc.

Not always. I really don't like streaming because I don't always know what version I'm going to get.  When Ozzy changed the Blizzard/Diary tracks, I theoretically couldn't get the originals.  In theory, of course, because in reality I had the physical CD and could listen to them any time I wanted! 

On a side note, I remember when that happened. I was SO pissed that I took lunch the day I found out, went to the local used CD shop, and bought the last versions of his records that featured Bob Daisley and Lee Kerslake, instead of the replacement tracks.

[gborland]

I use Spotify in offline mode on Android all the time.

[Dream Team]

Because of my age I naturally used to be a hard-core "physical media only" guy but financially it just can't hold up forever. I mean, just counting a small number of my favorite bands means there's over 100 CDs of just studio releases to shuffle around and keep track of, not even counting the dozens of other bands/artists I listen to regularly. So I have a couple cases of CDs in my car but none in the house.

[pg1067]

Streaming is convenient until it isn’t. I follow a lot of band subreddits on Reddit, and I’m always seeing people complaining “Album X isn’t available on Spotify anymore” or stuff like that.

That is more of a contractual/digital rights issue than just "it's not available anymore". The rights vary by artists, labels, regions, etc.

Not always. I really don't like streaming because I don't always know what version I'm going to get.  When Ozzy changed the Blizzard/Diary tracks, I theoretically couldn't get the originals.  In theory, of course, because in reality I had the physical CD and could listen to them any time I wanted! 

On a side note, I remember when that happened. I was SO pissed that I took lunch the day I found out, went to the local used CD shop, and bought the last versions of his records that featured Bob Daisley and whoever else, instead of the replacement tracks.

Lee Kerslake.

[Samsara]

Thanks Paul. Fixed.

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

I’m a CD guy to my grave. Same goes for movies.

You buy movies on CD?   
 
 
 
 
 
(I'm all about physical media too - happy to have my CD and Blu-ray collection)

ever heard of a laser disc? might be before your time

[lucasembarbosa]

MP posted a new pic at IG and the board is not blurred this time... Where are the detectives to find out what's written there? 

[Lonk]

MP posted a new pic at IG and the board is not blurred this time... Where are the detectives to find out what's written there? 

Here is the picture

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

Detective Sojourn at your service

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

reads to me like it says:

Attaboy
--------

Attaboy Intro
Attaboy Main Riff
7/8 Section  ((blast beats))
Johnny & Santo
Yogurt Diaries Pt. 1
Yogurt Diaries Pt. 2
The epic Meshuggah part
Outro / Finale


I think this is pretty telling. Attaboy is presumably a working title, but it looks like it could be the skeleton/structure of an epic? I'm excited for a Johnny & Santo esque section (some kind of Sleep Walk sounding riff but maybe played by JR on the Continuum???), not looking forward to the Meshuggah part because i'm not really into djent much (unless I misread Michael, that part of the pic is pretty blurry - would it be Jackson or Buble tho?), and i know a wonky 7/8 section with blast beats will be pretty epic

Yogurt diaries is an interesting concept too but it might also be another working title. Maybe the name of a character? Are we getting a concept album??

EDIT: Just realized the usual styling was Santo & Johnny, so maybe this is a clue that they will play Sleep Walk in reverse?

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

I’m a CD guy to my grave. Same goes for movies.

You buy movies on CD?   
 
 
 
 
 
(I'm all about physical media too - happy to have my CD and Blu-ray collection)

ever heard of a laser disc? might be before your time

Laserdiscs are not CDs....

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

i agree, it's kind of like if vinyl and dvd had a baby

[MinistroRaven]

[MirrorMask]

reads to me like it says:

Attaboy
--------

Attaboy Intro
Attaboy Main Riff
7/8 Section  ((blast beats))
Johnny & Santo
Yogurt Diaries Pt. 1
Yogurt Diaries Pt. 2
The epic Meshuggah part
Outro / Finale


I think this is pretty telling. Attaboy is presumably a working title, but it looks like it could be the skeleton/structure of an epic? I'm excited for a Johnny & Santo esque section (some kind of Sleep Walk sounding riff but maybe played by JR on the Continuum???), not looking forward to the Meshuggah part because i'm not really into djent much (unless I misread Michael, that part of the pic is pretty blurry - would it be Jackson or Buble tho?), and i know a wonky 7/8 section with blast beats will be pretty epic

Yogurt diaries is an interesting concept too but it might also be another working title. Maybe the name of a character? Are we getting a concept album??

EDIT: Just realized the usual styling was Santo & Johnny, so maybe this is a clue that they will play Sleep Walk in reverse?

Not really crazy at the idea of them doing once again an ultra modern metal approach but congrats on the sleuthing!

[Dream Team]

^ What he said.

[Kyo]

reads to me like it says:

Attaboy
--------

Attaboy Intro
Attaboy Main Riff

My guess is Jitterbug.

[devieira73]

So... do you think they are already recording the album or just demoing the songs?

[evilasiojr]

I would bet they are already recording it

[The Letter M]

So... do you think they are already recording the album or just demoing the songs?

Mike indicates that JP is already beginning to track his guitars. I'd assume that JM will do his bass once the drums are finalized as well so they mesh together. Keys will probably come later, with the vocals last, but it looks like they're slowly beginning the recording process and I'd assume most of, if not the entire album is already written, though changes can still be made in the tracking and over-dubbing process.

-Marc.

[devieira73]

Maybe the same method they were used to in the past, of recording the songs as they were being composed?  Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think they have an entire album written yet and ready for just record it.

[DTwwbwMP]

Thanks for this!

[Setlist Scotty]

Maybe the same method they were used to in the past, of recording the songs as they were being composed?  Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think they have an entire album written yet and ready for just record it.

Yeah, I'm of the mind they're probably writing and recording simultaneously. Considering the "forced" break for MP and JR, maybe they sketched out rough ideas for some songs for the other guys (or at least JP) to work on while they're away. But I wouldn't be surprised if they're *not* completely done with the songwriting yet. IIRC, with SDoIT, they finished writing and recording everything instrumentally that ended up on disc 1 before JP and MP did their first G3 tour (writing lyrics during that time) and then ended up writing the title track after they returned, and that tour ran a full month by comparison. So this being just a week or so away, I'd expect they'll resume writing and recording after MP and JR return.

[Kyo]

They've been in the studio for a month and to me this sounds like they're still not done writing. A good sign in my book.