Final Fantasy Discussion Thread

[orcus116]

Her dialogue, her diction, the half regular/half Australian accent, her maneurisms all suck.

[Elsydeon]

but....shes hot

[Ultimetalhead]

Vanille is smokin'. I was slightly aroused when she showed her l'Cie mark.

[Arcaeus]

Yeah I'm starting to tolerate Vanille a bit more as the game goes on.

And is just me or do things start getting really awesome in Chapter 7

[Elsydeon]

Yeah I'm starting to tolerate Vanille a bit more as the game goes on.

And is just me or do things start getting really awesome in Chapter 7

The whole game is really awesome every chapter after 6. Chapter 11 is awesome just for Grand Pulse alone

[Ultimetalhead]

I'm way behind compared to you guys. I'm on a boss which has an attack called Wrecking Ball that destroys Sazh in one hit, and I have no idea what to do...

[AcidLameLTE]

Was just fighting the boss at the end of chapter 11. He wasn't doing that much damage or anything and I was coping quite well and then, all of a sudden, just when I'm about to own him, HE PULLS OUT THIS ATTACK AND KILLS LIGHTNING IN ONE ATTACK. WTF?! It wasn't even a strong attack (she had next to full health).

[Elsydeon]

Was just fighting the boss at the end of chapter 11. He wasn't doing that much damage or anything and I was coping quite well and then, all of a sudden, just when I'm about to own him, HE PULLS OUT THIS ATTACK AND KILLS LIGHTNING IN ONE ATTACK. WTF?! It wasn't even a strong attack (she had next to full health).

is that the boss ontop of the tower? i just beat that thing, 2 million hp wtf! I had him in stagger and was thinking "oh this is pretty easy".....then he casts like every status and debuff ailment on my party

[AcidLameLTE]

Yeah. I was SO close to killing him as well. I just made sure I had protect, shell etc. on.

Couple of questions: What does veil do and how do you make money in this game because I never seem to have much of it?

[Elsydeon]

Yeah. I was SO close to killing him as well. I just made sure I had protect, shell etc. on.

I must have used at least 10 esuna spells to clear all that stuff off. That tower I must say was a pretty cool level. 

[AcidLameLTE]

Yeah, it was a pretty cool area. Those statues were well cool.

Check my edit

[Elsydeon]

I'm not too sure on veil, I hardly use a synergist. But I think the only real way to make money is to sell stuff like components

[AcidLameLTE]

Hmmm. What classes do you use then? The only one I don't keep in regular rotation is Saboteur.

[Elsydeon]

My party consists of  Lightning, Snow, and Vanille.
My paradigm rotations are
COM, RAV, RAV (default)
COM, SEN, MED (casual healing)
MED, SEN, MED (heavy healing)
COM, RAV, SAB (debuffs, sometimes this will be my default)

[AcidLameLTE]

You've got a fairly similar setup to me...except I use Hope instead of Vanille.

The paradigms are almost the same apart from the last one where I have MED, COM, SYN. I also have an extra one where they're all RAV just to get the enemy staggered ASAP.

[Perpetual Change]

Vanille's voice, accent, diction, whatever are completely fine.

Her mannerisms, and the fact that the studio have decided it'd be cool to record her every breath/gasp/giggle/moans/etc just as loud as her voice is the horrible thing about her VAing.

A typical line of Vanille dialog is like (heAH)Let's(gasp)goah(breath)guyez!!(gigglesintoloudmoan)

No other VA in the game has been treated that atrociously.  

I just don't understand why they did that with her.  Is hearing every noise someone makes while they're talking (right in our ear, on top of that) supposed to make the character sound hot?

So far, I like FFXIII, but I think there's a little bit too much shameless sex appeal.

[AcidLameLTE]

So far, I like FFXIII, but I think there's a little bit too much shameless sex appeal.

It's better than FFX-2 where the characters were wearing the skimpiest outfits they could get away with and they had that creepy back-rub mini-game

[Elsydeon]

You've got a fairly similar setup to me...except I use Hope instead of Vanille.

The paradigms are almost the same apart from the last one where I have MED, COM, SYN. I also have an extra one where they're all RAV just to get the enemy staggered ASAP.

I had the all RAV combo for a while, but I needed a COM so the stagger meter doesn't go down so fast. With deprotect and stagger, lightning takes out an average of about 17,000 damage.  

[AcidLameLTE]

Wow. Nice!

My characters can keep up with the stagger meter going down so quickly so it's not really a problem for me, right now.

[Arcaeus]

So far, I like FFXIII, but I think there's a little bit too much shameless sex appeal.

It's better than FFX-2 where the characters were wearing the skimpiest outfits they could get away with and they had that creepy back-rub mini-game

So glad I turned my system off five minutes into the game

So far, I like FFXIII, but I think there's a little bit too much shameless sex appeal.

I understand you were talking about the VA in your post, but I don't feel there's too much shameless sex appeal.

Lightning's dressed pretty conservatively for a Final Fantasy character if you think about it

Vanille & Fang aren't any worse than Tifa, Lulu, Fran, Ashe, etc., it just might seem that way because the graphics and designs are so much more detailed

Now as for Snow's friend, that NORA chick... Jesus Christ.

[Perpetual Change]

So far, I like FFXIII, but I think there's a little bit too much shameless sex appeal.

It's better than FFX-2 where the characters were wearing the skimpiest outfits they could get away with and they had that creepy back-rub mini-game

X-2 was by far the worst, but this game would have to take 2nd place.  Even though the original X could still be pretty bad, it at least had Yuna's modesty making up for Lulu's knockers.

And most FF up to this point at least had a few female leads with some modesty. 

[Genowyn]

I just started, I already hate Vanille. Jesus.

[AcidLameLTE]

So far, I like FFXIII, but I think there's a little bit too much shameless sex appeal.

It's better than FFX-2 where the characters were wearing the skimpiest outfits they could get away with and they had that creepy back-rub mini-game

X-2 was by far the worst, but this game would have to take 2nd place.  Even though the original X could still be pretty bad, it at least had Yuna's modesty making up for Lulu's knockers.

And most FF up to this point at least had a few female leads with some modesty.  

wut

FFVII was pretty bad for it. You just couldn't tell with the crappy graphics. The clothes Yuffi and Tifa were wearing were quite short and Tifa's breasts were so big, Square could have cut about 20 hours out of the game and just used them to shield the earth from Meteor.

[glaurung]

So far, I like FFXIII, but I think there's a little bit too much shameless sex appeal.

It's better than FFX-2 where the characters were wearing the skimpiest outfits they could get away with and they had that creepy back-rub mini-game

X-2 was by far the worst, but this game would have to take 2nd place.  Even though the original X could still be pretty bad, it at least had Yuna's modesty making up for Lulu's knockers.

And most FF up to this point at least had a few female leads with some modesty.  

wut

FFVII was pretty bad for it. You just couldn't tell with the crappy graphics. The clothes Yuffi and Tifa were wearing were quite short and Tifa's breasts were so big, Square could have cut about 20 hours out of the game and just used them to shield the earth from Meteor.

I would have to agree. VII is way worse at that than XIII. The only game where it takes it too far is X-2 though. There's a difference between the characters being cute and them looking like sluts.

[Perpetual Change]

The girls in XIII ALL look like sluts, or like they're ready for a night of serious clubbing.  In VII, only two of them did.  Same with X.

TBH, not counting X2, Final Fantasy XIII is the first time the girls have been so inappropriately dressed that it's hard to take their role in the plot seriously.

[cthrubuoy]

Plus you get the obvious pervy camera angles.
Breasts on the woman with glasses (don't know her name)
Vanille climbing over things (camera on ass)
Vanille showing her brand (while lifting her skirt)

[AcidLameLTE]

They do that with plenty of other games though (e.g. making Tifa's breasts insanely bouncy and a good example of that is in the last cut scene of VII).

The girls in XIII ALL look like sluts, or like they're ready for a night of serious clubbing.  In VII, only two of them did.  Same with X.

How does only having 2/3 girls look slutty make it any better? The third one dies pretty early on in 7 anyway.

As it it's been pointed out before, the only reason it's more obvious is because of the insanely good graphics.

[Perpetual Change]

Yuna died early on?

[AcidLameLTE]

Good thing I forgot to say "in 7" in my post. Oh wait.

[Perpetual Change]

I know, I was pointing out that they DON'T always do it and in the past have had female leads that are a bit more modest.  

FFXIII is pretty lolworthy at the moment.  I can't take the story seriously, since the characters are so ridiculous.  I'm enjoying it, though.

[AcidLameLTE]

I can't take YOU seriously because YOU'RE so rediculous

[Perpetual Change]

OK. Well, it's already 9:30 and I'm still piddling around the forum.  I'm gonna eat, get a shower, get dressed, and leave the house.  Today, I think I'm going to be doing something really important, like violently saving my sister from being deported.  I think it'd be best if I showed up to the immigration office wearing something like this:

[AcidLameLTE]

Cool. Well, I'm just going to run about killing stuff with a sword the same size as me:



Maybe I'll go with a huge gun that never needs to have new ammo that's grafted on my arm:



Giant talking dog maybe? Talking cat with a Scottish accent?

[Perpetual Change]

Ridiculous as they are, none of those scream shameless sex appeal like FFXIII does.

[AcidLameLTE]

Yeah. I forgot about Tifa and Yuffie.