Final Fantasy Discussion Thread

[Perpetual Change]

I know.  You're starting to sound like a broken record. I admit that sex is always a part of it, but all the Final Fantasy games have at least some modestly dressed female leads. This game has NONE. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Why?

[AcidLameLTE]

You're starting to sound like a broken record.

Ironic.

I admit that sex is always a part of it, but all the Final Fantasy games have at least some modestly dressed female leads. This game has NONE. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Why?

How does only having 2/3 girls look slutty make it any better?

[Neon]

You know...I've always laughed at myself for how 'behind the times' I am.

But I finally, finally started playing FF VIII the other day.

And you know what?  I hate it already.  But everyone keeps saying what a cool story it is, so I'll keep playing it.  But the controls are so ass backwards from every other game I'm used to. 

And I don't understand all this junctioning business at all.   And that second boss (the one on the top of the tower when you're taking your test at the beginning) is a real bitch...swear to god it took me 6 tries to beat it.  And before you laugh at me for being inept, (as you should) it usually does take me awhile to get used to the controls and everything of a new game.  I'll be a master of it soon enough but for now it's frustrating as hell. 

[AcidLameLTE]

VIII was probably my least favourite of the FF games for the PS1. It was okay though.

[Perpetual Change]

You're starting to sound like a broken record.

Ironic.

I admit that sex is always a part of it, but all the Final Fantasy games have at least some modestly dressed female leads. This game has NONE. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Why?

How does only having 2/3 girls look slutty make it any better?

That's cute, but you never actually responded to the fact that the other games have more modestly dressed characters.  You just pointed out that, in ONE of them, the modestly dressed female character dies relatively early on.  2/3 =/= 3/3  

[ehra]

You know...I've always laughed at myself for how 'behind the times' I am.

But I finally, finally started playing FF VIII the other day.

And you know what?  I hate it already.  But everyone keeps saying what a cool story it is, so I'll keep playing it.  But the controls are so ass backwards from every other game I'm used to. 

And I don't understand all this junctioning business at all.   And that second boss (the one on the top of the tower when you're taking your test at the beginning) is a real bitch...swear to god it took me 6 tries to beat it.  And before you laugh at me for being inept, (as you should) it usually does take me awhile to get used to the controls and everything of a new game.  I'll be a master of it soon enough but for now it's frustrating as hell. 

Basically, Junctioning is just taking spells and attaching them to your stats (certain spells are better with certain stats, from what I remember). I think how much of that spell you have affects how much it boosts your stat as well (spells are like items, every time you use a spell you lose one "use" of it. You get more by drawing them from enemies). Also, you can only Junction onto a stat if that character has a GF equipped with the Junction-*stat* ability learned (So you can't actually boost Squall's strength, for example, until one of the GFs you have him using learns the Junction-Strength ability).

It can be a little confusing at first, but the game's not that difficult once you get used to it. You can pretty much cheese your way through the majority of the game by just spamming GFs all the time.

[AcidLameLTE]

That's cute, but you never actually responded to the fact that the other games have more modestly dressed characters.  You just pointed out that, in ONE of them, the modestly dressed female character dies relatively early on.  2/3 =/= 3/3 

Well, I'm not denying the fact that the other games have more moderately dressed characters and the fact that Aeries dies wasn't the main point of an argument.

To take a very extreme example:

A man runs over three people and another man runs over two. No one is going to say that the second guy is better because he only ran over two.

[Perpetual Change]

I don't get how that analogy is related.  I never said the sluttiness made the game worse.  I just said it made it especially slutty.

[AcidLameLTE]

I meant worse on the sluttyness scale.

[glaurung]

I know.  You're starting to sound like a broken record. I admit that sex is always a part of it, but all the Final Fantasy games have at least some modestly dressed female leads. This game has NONE. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Why?

Which one looks more like a whore?



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[cthrubuoy]

My vote is for Tifa.

[Ultimetalhead]

Tifa is so god damn hot.

And seriously, the characters in XIII are extremely modest compared to past characters. How anyone could think of Lightning's outfit as slutty is beyond me.

[glaurung]

She doesn't need to dress like a slut to look damn sexy though.

[Neon]

You know you're posting on a prog message board when...

...The guys on the board are salivating over video game characters....

[Ultimetalhead]

You don't have to be a prog nerd to go crazy for Final Fantasy womangs.

[Perpetual Change]

You know you're posting on a prog message board when...

...The guys on the board are salivating over video game characters....

There's the rub.  I'm not the same nerdy, sexually frustrated, j-rpg/anime fan I was when I was 14 and Final Fantasy X came out (Oh my god, really!?).  I barely watch any anime and I don't play JRPGs much anymore.  And then a great game like this comes out with its scantily clad anime womang, reminding me, as Golbez reminded Kane, that I'm still a nerd a heart; too weird most of the time to hang with the rest of the party.

Thank you, Final Fantasy XIII, for captivating me with such a fun game and taking me back to that wonderful time when I was still a teenager 

[Arcaeus]

I really don't see how Lightning's that bad at all, especially for FF standards

You know you're posting on a prog message board when...

...The guys on the board are salivating over video game characters....

Hey, I know plenty of girls who do the same

[cthrubuoy]

[Ultimetalhead]

I'm in chapter 5 right now. Lightning is a total powerhouse. I have her at a level 2 Commando and Hope as a level 2 Ravager. I'm totally owning everything I see.

[Perpetual Change]

In chapter 4 now.  Just got Lightning's summon.  Now on the Sazh/Vanille part.  Anything involving those two characters together is easily my least favorite part of the game.

[glaurung]

Sazh is a great character and Vanille just has a bad voice actor.

[Elsydeon]

Im on the last chapter now, just doing side stuff and leveling before the final battle. I changed my lineup so now it's light, fang, and sazh, best decision I made all day. Having a synergist and saboteur in the same group is just fucking win.  Oh and I'm riding a chocobo! kweh!!

[AcidLameLTE]

LAST chapter? WTF?!

Seriously? I thought this was a 60 hour game?!

[glaurung]

LAST chapter? WTF?!

Seriously? I thought this was a 60 hour game?!

It depends on how much work you want to put into maxing out the Crystarium/weapons. If you really want to max everything out it can go much longer than 60 hours.

[AcidLameLTE]

Well yeah but I meant the average play length.

Also, I'm pretty sure my game bugged out the other day. I, some how, have the trophy for owning all the weapons + accessories and the trophy for maxing out all the roles (they're gold trophies as well). This was quite early on in the game too

[Ultimetalhead]

In chapter 4 now.  Just got Lightning's summon.  Now on the Sazh/Vanille part.  Anything involving those two characters together is easily my least favorite part of the game.

I hated that section, mainly because Sazh and Vanille are both pretty weak compared to Lightning and Hope.

[cthrubuoy]

In chapter 4 now.  Just got Lightning's summon.  Now on the Sazh/Vanille part.  Anything involving those two characters together is easily my least favorite part of the game.

I hated that section, mainly because Sazh and Vanille are both pretty weak compared to Lightning and Hope.

I found it easier to play with Sazh and Vanille! Well at that point in the game anyway.

[cthrubuoy]

Least favourite part of the game so far:

"SEEERRRAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!" every. time. he's. on. the. fuckin. screen.

[Perpetual Change]

Wow.  8 hrs in and on disc II... amazing.  I guess the graphics really do take up that much space.  I wonder... if someone decided to release a 3-disc 2D RPG for the 360, it'd probably be the longest, most epic RPG experience ever.

[Elsydeon]

LAST chapter? WTF?!

Seriously? I thought this was a 60 hour game?!

well im like 55 hours in lol...

[AcidLameLTE]

Wow...crazy. Weren't we just at the same bit the other night?

[Arcaeus]

In chapter 4 now.  Just got Lightning's summon.  Now on the Sazh/Vanille part.  Anything involving those two characters together is easily my least favorite part of the game.

I hated that section, mainly because Sazh and Vanille are both pretty weak compared to Lightning and Hope.

Those two elemental yeti boss things were fucking hell. Jesus Christ.

As for where I am, SPOILERS (Chapter 10):

Just killed Cid. Good fight, but goddamn was he the most useless Cid in the series. He had an awesome story, but Christ, we see him what, three times? And his dull, generic voice acting makes it almost impossible to care.

Barthandelus or whoever was a big WTF moment though. Awesome fight.

[Ultimetalhead]

I don't recall the elemental yetis. Was that in Chapter 4?

Anyway, I just beat a pretty tough boss. It was right after (Possible Spoiler) Hope starts up his Operation Nora thingy. I can't remember the name, but I remember having to use a Fortisol to even have a chance against the damn thing.

[Arcaeus]

I don't remember what they're called, they're big, hairy four-legged things, one uses fire and the other water or ice or something. And once you kill one the other goes berserk all WoW-style.

I beat them the first try, but it was still time-consuming and annoying as all hell. Mostly because I was dumb and put Sazh as a ravager which made it harder to get the stagger bonus up.

[Elsydeon]

Wow...crazy. Weren't we just at the same bit the other night?

Well then you shouldn't be too far off then acid, how far are you now?   The enemies in chap 13 are really annoyingly hard