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Re: Avatar (Spoilers likely)
« Reply #420 on: January 21, 2010, 08:55:53 AM »
Saw this film and hated it. Heres why.

My grandmother was a full blooded Cherokee, which makes my dad 1/2 and myself 1/4. I grew up with a respect and appreciation for my American Indian heritage, and not in the way that nearly every American claims to have Indian blood in their lineage either. I have relatives who still live on the res in N.C.

Anyway, about 20 minutes into this film~ I realized that this is nothing more than the remake of the story of the plight of the American Indian. Hell, they shoot arrows, ride horse-like creatures, and even have battle cries not unlike American Indians. S

what like the mongolians and turks? there are a ton of stories that repeat in history, no need to get all bunched up over it just because the story is the same.



Like I said, I think it just hit a discordant nerve with me that I spent the remainder of the film trying to get passed, and I couldn't.
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« Reply #421 on: January 21, 2010, 08:57:38 AM »
that's ok i was just baiting, turks, mongoalians, and the american indians are the same race anyway.
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« Reply #422 on: January 21, 2010, 08:59:25 AM »
God damn mongowians

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Re: Avatar (Spoilers likely)
« Reply #423 on: January 21, 2010, 09:00:37 AM »
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« Reply #424 on: January 21, 2010, 09:17:14 AM »
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« Reply #425 on: January 21, 2010, 02:51:22 PM »
In terms of sci-fi either Moon or District definitely deserve it above Avatar, mostly Moon.
Completely agree. I liked Avatar a lot, but Moon and District 9 were amazing. :tup

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« Reply #426 on: January 21, 2010, 03:16:06 PM »
...and if you don't see that the plight of the American Indian (please don't say Native American- its disrespectful) was basically exploited for this film, I feel sorry for you. While visually stunning- I think the film it was exploitative in a way.

I can't agree with this. Say what you will about Avatar, but it seems like a perfectly earnest attempt by Cameron to make a film about how technologically advanced societies dehumanize and try to subjugate technologically less advanced societies. I have a lot of issues with Avatar (I think the Na'vi culture is too simplistically derived from American Indian culture), but Cameron exploiting American Indian history isn't one of them.
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« Reply #427 on: January 21, 2010, 04:58:33 PM »
If all you see in the movie is the similarities to the Native Americans, I feel sorry for you. You are focusing too much on a small aspect of the movie.

Listen I know you're a rabid Avatar fan but the Native American aspect was a big part of the movie.

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« Reply #428 on: January 21, 2010, 07:31:11 PM »
I don't see what's so disrespectful about the white guy joining the tribe, quickly mastering their culture within weeks, and becoming the greatest Indian of all time(!!!). :huh:

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Re: Avatar (Spoilers likely)
« Reply #429 on: January 21, 2010, 08:07:59 PM »
I don't see what's so disrespectful about the white guy joining the tribe, quickly mastering their culture within weeks, and becoming the greatest Indian of all time(!!!). :huh:

I wish I could be the greatest black guy of all time, but that honor belongs to the voice of Morgan Freeman :sadpanda:
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Re: Avatar (Spoilers likely)
« Reply #430 on: January 21, 2010, 08:37:57 PM »
I don't see what's so disrespectful about the white guy joining the tribe, quickly mastering their culture within weeks, and becoming the greatest Indian of all time(!!!). :huh:

 but that honor belongs to the voice of Morgan Freeman :sadpanda:

That is one thing we agree on.

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« Reply #431 on: January 23, 2010, 06:10:28 PM »
I just saw it for the first time this afternoon, and I was blown away.

That's all.
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« Reply #432 on: January 23, 2010, 06:14:03 PM »
I saw Avatar a few weeks ago and I have to say it is the biggest piece of CRAP I have ever seen! Great cinematography though. Granted I only saw it in 2D but no extra dimension can salvage that piece of shit!

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« Reply #433 on: January 23, 2010, 06:16:33 PM »
I saw Avatar a few weeks ago and I have to say it is the biggest piece of CRAP I have ever seen! Great cinematography though. Granted I only saw it in 2D but no extra dimension can salvage that piece of shit!
Come on.  You've never seen a worse movie than Avatar?  Really?
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« Reply #434 on: January 23, 2010, 06:20:52 PM »
I saw Avatar a few weeks ago and I have to say it is the biggest piece of CRAP I have ever seen! Great cinematography though. Granted I only saw it in 2D but no extra dimension can salvage that piece of shit!
Come on.  You've never seen a worse movie than Avatar?  Really?

I think just the hype and the stupid people saying "BEST MOVIE EVER MADE!!!!!!!", warrants that critisism!

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« Reply #435 on: January 23, 2010, 06:42:33 PM »
I saw Avatar a few weeks ago and I have to say it is the biggest piece of CRAP I have ever seen! Great cinematography though. Granted I only saw it in 2D but no extra dimension can salvage that piece of shit!


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« Reply #436 on: January 23, 2010, 07:03:51 PM »
I saw Avatar a few weeks ago and I have to say it is the biggest piece of CRAP I have ever seen! Great cinematography though. Granted I only saw it in 2D but no extra dimension can salvage that piece of shit!
Come on.  You've never seen a worse movie than Avatar?  Really?

I think just the hype and the stupid people saying "BEST MOVIE EVER MADE!!!!!!!", warrants that critisism!
Well, it's not the best film ever made, but your reaction seems a little overblown.
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Re: Avatar (Spoilers likely)
« Reply #437 on: January 23, 2010, 07:55:36 PM »
I don't see what's so disrespectful about the white guy joining the tribe, quickly mastering their culture within weeks, and becoming the greatest Indian of all time(!!!). :huh:

I wish I could be the greatest black guy of all time, but that honor belongs to the voice of Morgan Freeman :sadpanda:

Sorry hun, maybe you should go back to being white?  :P

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« Reply #438 on: January 23, 2010, 10:00:51 PM »
I stumbled upon a few free passes and used them to catch Avatar again last night.  Packed house for a movie that's been out a month already caught me off guard.  According to Friday's numbers, looks like it's going to stay number 1 again this weekend.  That will put it ahead of Dark Knight (domestically).  My God, does this movie really have a shot?  I can't believe no film has been able to touch Cameron's last . . . except Cameron's newest.  Fitting I suppose.

On the film, what a great pace up until SPOILERS the tree falls.  I can't exactly pinpoint why it loses its steam, but the movie just seems to trot along until the final battle where things pick up again.  Still, even the third time around, this movie is an experience.  I really hope Cameron follows up with a sequel.

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« Reply #439 on: January 23, 2010, 10:25:26 PM »
I saw Avatar a few weeks ago and I have to say it is the biggest piece of CRAP I have ever seen! Great cinematography though. Granted I only saw it in 2D but no extra dimension can salvage that piece of shit!
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« Reply #440 on: January 23, 2010, 10:49:28 PM »
Figure'd this belonged in the Avatar thread. Enjoy (esp. you Chino :tup)

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« Reply #441 on: January 24, 2010, 04:21:42 AM »
I saw Avatar a few weeks ago and I have to say it is the biggest piece of CRAP I have ever seen! Great cinematography though. Granted I only saw it in 2D but no extra dimension can salvage that piece of shit!
Come on.  You've never seen a worse movie than Avatar?  Really?

I think just the hype and the stupid people saying "BEST MOVIE EVER MADE!!!!!!!", warrants that critisism!
That makes no sense whatsoever.

In fact, it's exactly the same as people saying it's amazing purely because it's so hyped up, which is actually very few people. Most people who say they love it genuinely do.

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« Reply #442 on: January 24, 2010, 04:39:49 AM »
I will also say that watching this film in theaters WITHOUT watching in 3D sounds, I don't know, kind of dumb.
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Re: Avatar (Spoilers likely)
« Reply #443 on: January 24, 2010, 06:39:03 AM »
Avatar is plain and simple, a extremely fun, visually stunning movie experience. If your going to see some deep storyline, don't bother, but if you want to experience something you've never seen before on a movie screen, then go. I loved it because it was damn fun to watch.

and you can't not see it in 3D.
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« Reply #444 on: January 24, 2010, 07:19:27 AM »
Figure'd this belonged in the Avatar thread. Enjoy (esp. you Chino :tup)

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Avatar is plain and simple, a extremely fun, visually stunning movie experience. If your going to see some deep storyline, don't bother, but if you want to experience something you've never seen before on a movie screen, then go. I loved it because it was damn fun to watch.

and you can't not see it in 3D.

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Re: Avatar (Spoilers likely)
« Reply #445 on: January 24, 2010, 10:31:06 AM »
Figure'd this belonged in the Avatar thread. Enjoy (esp. you Chino :tup)

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Re: Avatar (Spoilers likely)
« Reply #446 on: January 24, 2010, 11:48:49 AM »
I can't wait for the blu ray release of this film. I hope it will include hours of behind the scenes.

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« Reply #447 on: January 24, 2010, 11:51:29 AM »
I can't wait for the blu ray release of this film. I hope it will include hours of behind the scenes.

Special features, commentaries, making-of, and art galleries FTW.
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« Reply #448 on: January 24, 2010, 12:08:28 PM »
I can't wait for the blu ray release of this film. I hope it will include hours of behind the scenes.

Special features, commentaries, making-of, and art galleries FTW.

I'd really like to see concept art from 15 years ago when the story first started to be written.

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« Reply #449 on: January 24, 2010, 12:14:10 PM »
so it passed the dark knight for 2nd highest grossing movies of all time.

https://www.imdb.com/boxoffice/alltimegross

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« Reply #450 on: January 24, 2010, 12:15:51 PM »
I can't even fathom how much money Mr. Cameron has.

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« Reply #451 on: January 24, 2010, 12:57:34 PM »
I feel like he could release a two hour movie of him shitting and it'd gross a billion dollars no problem.

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« Reply #452 on: January 24, 2010, 04:26:00 PM »
Adjusted for inflation, it still isn't close to Titanic, and it really isn't close to the all-time champ Gone With The Wind.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm
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« Reply #453 on: January 24, 2010, 04:43:22 PM »
I don't like those numbers though. What if the Avatar tickets are cheaper and more people go to see the movie multiple times, thus making its gross even higher? You just can't know.
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« Reply #454 on: January 24, 2010, 05:07:11 PM »
I don't like those numbers though. What if the Avatar tickets are cheaper and more people go to see the movie multiple times, thus making its gross even higher? You just can't know.
I don't understand what you're saying.  Movie tickets are more expensive now than at any time in history.
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