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« Reply #280 on: January 05, 2010, 08:08:37 PM »
Lol :lol

I may be going again to see it this friday :metal
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« Reply #281 on: January 05, 2010, 08:19:10 PM »
Wow :lol

Is that just for tickets? What about popcorn??
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« Reply #282 on: January 06, 2010, 05:07:35 AM »
Wow :lol

Is that just for tickets? What about popcorn??

I don't buy food at movie theaters. I refuse to give into their crazy prices.

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« Reply #283 on: January 06, 2010, 07:16:19 AM »
I'm leaving to go see this movie in about 5 minutes. I'll let you know what I think of it when I return.

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« Reply #284 on: January 06, 2010, 08:55:08 AM »
I'm waiting in suspense :lol :lol
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« Reply #285 on: January 06, 2010, 09:18:09 AM »
You just know he's gonna come back and have the same opinion as TL :lol

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« Reply #286 on: January 06, 2010, 02:31:27 PM »
I would do anything to live among the Ometacya.

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« Reply #287 on: January 06, 2010, 03:04:41 PM »
I actually like it here more. I get bored as hell in the woods.

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« Reply #288 on: January 07, 2010, 06:56:18 AM »
I saw this movie a week or so ago. In 2D, on a laptop screen (hey, someone I was visiting had already downloaded it, and it was snowing outside, don't look at me like that), i.e. without the cinema experience plus points. And I still thought it was pretty stunning.

When the CGI first came in, i.e. he first adopts his avatar body, I thought it was kinda awkward, but once they actually go into the forest, it got amazing.

I have to admit, I loved the Apocalypse Now reference. Anyone who has seen Apoc Now and missed it must have been watching this asleep.

The people bitching about unoriginal story are just silly. Yes, it's cowboys vs Indians, but it's been chucked into the future. As in, the historical context which normally limits the possible endings of these films disappears. The Indians can actually come out victorious. Once I realised this, I was so excited for how the end might play out. All Cameron had to do was make it feasible that the Indians actually could win this time, and I think he did so.

My biggest bitch has to do with the end of the fighting. The main character running up and launching himself at the Colonel's spaceship to take him out with a grenade, I loved that. But once it got down to the big one-on-one showdown between him and the Colonel in a robot with his girlfriend pinned underneath a horse, it just felt a little too wank wank "now it's personal" big-action Hollywood ending for the sake of it. It could have ended with the ship going down and him being swamped by Indians and it would have been a satisfying enough finale for me.

Other than that, pretty much brilliant movie. I might go see it again at a cinema in the next few weeks, though I'll have to travel some way to find it in English.

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« Reply #289 on: January 07, 2010, 07:24:51 AM »
I might go see it again at a cinema in the next few weeks, though I'll have to travel some way to find it in English.

You need the 3D experience. I'd be willing to see it in another language.

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« Reply #290 on: January 07, 2010, 11:19:55 AM »
The people bitching about unoriginal story are just silly.

Why? I'm not giving a movie a pass in the story department because it's essentially plotlines from a few well know movies/stories pasted together. Cameron got lazy and unoriginal and I feel bad if you can actually enjoy something that is predictable as hell.

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« Reply #291 on: January 07, 2010, 11:27:35 AM »
The people bitching about unoriginal story are just silly.

 I feel bad if you can actually enjoy something that is predictable as hell.

Back To The Future
Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure
Gladiator
The Patriot
Major League
Independence Day
The Pursuit of Happyness
My Cousin Vinny
Armageddon
National Treasure
Cast Away
Behind Enemy Lines
Rain Man
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In my opinion, far more predictable than Avatar. It doesn't mean I can't enjoy them to the fullest. I feel sorry that you didn't enjoy Avatar because you were too worried about it being unoriginal.

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« Reply #292 on: January 07, 2010, 11:29:30 AM »
Yeah, unpredictable =/= good and predictable =/= bad.

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« Reply #293 on: January 07, 2010, 11:50:25 AM »
the story is familiar because it mirrors human history so well. events like this have happened time and again throughout civilized history and colonizing. if you hate this movie's plot based on it being a "known" story, then most movies should be hated for the same reason.

that said, i loved this movie. i was completely lost in the world and loved visiting it. at first the cg looked a little rough, but as things went on, and quickly too, it got so good you forget its computer(almost). i loved the world Cameron created, and will surely see it in theaters before its gone.

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« Reply #294 on: January 07, 2010, 01:12:42 PM »
I feel sorry that you didn't enjoy Avatar because you were too worried about it being unoriginal.

It's just hard to feel any emotion when you see everything coming. Plus most of those movies you named at least made an attempt at something original. Any cliches encountered in those were typical movie cliches. On the other hand Avatar was literally Pocahontas, Fern Gully and Dances With Wolves all mashed together.

And don't get me wrong I thought the CG was phenomenal and I really enjoyed it for that aspect but I can't excuse the shitty overdone plotlines.

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« Reply #295 on: January 07, 2010, 11:13:43 PM »
I feel sorry that you didn't enjoy Avatar because you were too worried about it being unoriginal.

It's just hard to feel any emotion when you see everything coming. Plus most of those movies you named at least made an attempt at something original. Any cliches encountered in those were typical movie cliches. On the other hand Avatar was literally Pocahontas, Fern Gully and Dances With Wolves all mashed together.

And don't get me wrong I thought the CG was phenomenal and I really enjoyed it for that aspect but I can't excuse the shitty overdone plotlines.

I can understand your point. However, while watching Avatar, I was able to guess what was going to happen. At the same time though, I predicted multiple ways the story could go, and waiting to see which direction it would take made it all that more exciting.

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« Reply #296 on: January 07, 2010, 11:24:29 PM »
I'm seeing this on a date next Tuesday. Hey, she wanted to see it.

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« Reply #297 on: January 08, 2010, 03:06:14 AM »
I feel sorry that you didn't enjoy Avatar because you were too worried about it being unoriginal.

It's just hard to feel any emotion when you see everything coming. Plus most of those movies you named at least made an attempt at something original. Any cliches encountered in those were typical movie cliches. On the other hand Avatar was literally Pocahontas, Fern Gully and Dances With Wolves all mashed together.

And don't get me wrong I thought the CG was phenomenal and I really enjoyed it for that aspect but I can't excuse the shitty overdone plotlines.

While I would normally agree with you, I found the predictable but well pulled off plot helped take me into the living, breathing world of Avatar, which is why I can't fault the movie as it's only real weakness didn't bother me at all.

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« Reply #298 on: January 08, 2010, 11:42:59 PM »
Just watched it again.

Man, I really wanna spend some more time in Pandora at night
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« Reply #299 on: January 09, 2010, 12:50:28 AM »
::insert cheesy innuendo here::
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« Reply #300 on: January 09, 2010, 06:59:03 AM »

Man, I really wanna spend some more time in Pandora at night

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« Reply #301 on: January 10, 2010, 02:52:50 PM »
My avatar is now the best them.

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« Reply #302 on: January 10, 2010, 03:31:11 PM »
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« Reply #303 on: January 10, 2010, 03:45:55 PM »
All my friends have seen it twice now, bar me and my friend who saw it the first time, and who both have unlimited cinema cards.

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« Reply #304 on: January 10, 2010, 04:18:01 PM »
I see you.

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« Reply #305 on: January 10, 2010, 04:47:01 PM »
Chino, I'm starting to worry about you :lol
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« Reply #306 on: January 10, 2010, 04:58:56 PM »
So. I did model trains for years. I build RC trucks. I make scaled down mid evil siege weapons. My next project, possibly my biggest undertaking ever.... I am recreating Pandora in my basement.Its going to like up and everything. Starting with everything on this page.

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« Reply #307 on: January 10, 2010, 05:00:56 PM »
Guys, get me a good reference of something from avatar for me to draw!

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« Reply #308 on: January 10, 2010, 05:05:01 PM »
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« Reply #309 on: January 10, 2010, 05:34:22 PM »
As for Avatar, here is my real opinion:
 
Well I saw Avatar in 3D on Saturday morning. To sum things up I will not mention the CGI as it was excellent. There were a few moments where it was a little weird - like the first time Jake ran outside when he joined the Avatar for the first time. It just look a little odd. The battle scenes were stupendous if not a little baffling . Why send in ground troops when a tactical non-nuclear missile strike would take care of everything you need? But alas, you must make a good action movie so I guess it doesn't have to make sense when giant blue alien people are fighting missile laden hovercraft with bow and arrows....and win.
 
I guess the acting was good, the action was mind blowing but the story is forgettable for me. So 2/3 aint too bad.
 
I really hope they were not making a sequel. While the Navi seem compelling enough, the human side is not imo. I think if you are going to do a sequal, base it on another planet, time, situation and story. I do not want to see more of the same....unless everyone gets light sabers...cause that would be awesome.
 
Maybe I sound too harsh as it was an awesome experience when looking past the holes in the plot. Infact the whole digital 3D thing is pretty awesome. Seeing movies in 2D just won't cut it anymore when going going to the cinemas. I mean at home in HD, 2D is still great as the big screen is definately needed for the full effect of 3D.

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« Reply #310 on: January 10, 2010, 05:41:49 PM »

 
I really hope they were not making a sequel. While the Navi seem compelling enough, the human side is not imo. I think if you are going to do a sequal, base it on another planet, time, situation and story. I do not want to see more of the same....unless everyone gets light sabers...cause that would be awesome.
 


If done correctly, I can see a sequel being pulled off. There is still much more to learn about the Na'vi. Jake is now the Ometacya's king, not to mention the entire tribe needs to find a new place to live.

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« Reply #311 on: January 10, 2010, 05:58:35 PM »
Why send in ground troops when a tactical non-nuclear missile strike would take care of everything you need?
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

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« Reply #312 on: January 10, 2010, 05:59:49 PM »
Why send in ground troops when a tactical non-nuclear missile strike would take care of everything you need?
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

If that ever happened to the Ometacya people, even in a movie, I'd have to kill myself.

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« Reply #313 on: January 10, 2010, 06:05:01 PM »
Things I want in the inevitable Avatar sequel:

a) An entirely different story and world, based around the avatar concept.

OR

b) Ripley and Hudson fucking the Na'vi's shit up.

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« Reply #314 on: January 10, 2010, 06:17:08 PM »
Why send in ground troops when a tactical non-nuclear missile strike would take care of everything you need?
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Im pretty sure nuking the place would somehow affect the unobtainium negatively. And they were therer for that reason.
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