Mike Portnoy's DRUMEO video series

[devieira73]

Yes, on 10:20 minutes, I didn't pay attention on it on the first time, my fault!
Well, it will be cool, but also a bit redundant.

Dance of Eternity and the next video will be Instrumedley. I'm a bit disappointed, if there's one thing we don't need more of, it's footage of MP playing these. I guess they didn't dare to pull any MM era songs out.

Maybe I'm wrong, but MP only made a comment about the TDOE parts being played faster live within Instrumedley, but I don't think they announced MP will play Instrumedley next on Drumeo.

They did towards the end of the video. He said he did a video of Instrumedley, and then the video says "Coming Soon".

[MinistroRaven]

Just change the title as we are posting all of his drumeo video here

[faizoff]

That was really cool, love all these videos MP's done so far. He's so relaxed when laying it, I imagine it's burned into his brain at this point.

[devieira73]

From his Facebook:
The one you’ve been asking for… 😉
Fun fact: You’re not gonna believe this, but this track was NOT on the list of discussed songs/content before I arrived at Drumeo to shoot. Brandon Toews asked me on the spot if I’d be willing to do it, and I said I was willing to give it a try but that I hadn’t played it in YEARS (since the Shattered Fortress tour in 2017). We decided to give it a whirl without me even listening to the track to review it…hit record and this is what came out! “Like riding a bicycle! Well, more like a unicycle…” 😝😎🥁🚴

Anyway, I think it's really impressive!

[bosk1]

Well, his comments there certainly raise a dramatic turn of events.

[nobloodyname]

That is incredible. Absolutely incredible. How can you play something of that complexity straight off the bat without having played it for six years?

[MirrorMask]

Well, I would point out that I go to concerts and remember lyrics from songs I haven't heard in ages, but it's not even the same ballpark 

He's just that gifted. Sure, he wrote the song, he played it on and off from 1999 to 2010, but Petrucci himself said that he'd have to re-learn Octavarium if they wanted to play it again, and Mike pulls off this right off the bat, it's really impressive.

It's gonna be fun when they'll create the setlist for the upcoming tour...

"So Mike, there is this song we'd love to bring back but we don't know if you rememb..."
"Yes"
"Oh and what about this other song that we didn't play since 2010, you wanna rehears..."
"Nah I got it bro"
"So we'd really like to play Breaking All Illusions, you know we don't want to pretend the Mangini era never happened, let me bring out the charts for th...."
"Heard it yesterday while I was bored, guess I'm good for it"

 

[nobloodyname]

I actually chortled at that

[hefdaddy42]

Well, I would point out that I go to concerts and remember lyrics from songs I haven't heard in ages, but it's not even the same ballpark 

He's just that gifted. Sure, he wrote the song, he played it on and off from 1999 to 2010, but Petrucci himself said that he'd have to re-learn Octavarium if they wanted to play it again, and Mike pulls off this right off the bat, it's really impressive.

It kind of is in the same ballpark for them, though.  With JP's comment about Octavarium, that's a song they only played on one tour cycle, back in 2006, so it makes sense he would need to re-learn it.  But The Dance of Eternity?  As complex as it seems, all of them have played it a thousand times.  It's in their muscle memory.

[Lonk]

Well, I would point out that I go to concerts and remember lyrics from songs I haven't heard in ages, but it's not even the same ballpark 

He's just that gifted. Sure, he wrote the song, he played it on and off from 1999 to 2010, but Petrucci himself said that he'd have to re-learn Octavarium if they wanted to play it again, and Mike pulls off this right off the bat, it's really impressive.

It kind of is in the same ballpark for them, though.  With JP's comment about Octavarium, that's a song they only played on one tour cycle, back in 2006, so it makes sense he would need to re-learn it.  But The Dance of Eternity?  As complex as it seems, all of them have played it a thousand times.  It's in their muscle memory.

Yeah, I don't want to take away from MP remembering a song he hasn't play in 7 years, but often times the muscle memory comes right back, specially when it is something you have played so many times before. There was a fairly complex piece on the piano I had not play in over 10 years, I got on the piano a few weeks ago it was like I didn't forget a thing (though I was very stiff while playing it, not nearly as relaxed as when I used to play it regularly).

Also, JP saying he would need to relearn Octavarium is not the same as me, or any other guitarist, needing to learn the song from scratch. I would guess him relearning the piece would take him a few hours, and maybe a few extra days to master it, but not more than that.

[Progmaniac1988]

Man I just love watching MP play. I missed this! Damn there has been more DT promotion from MP in the last 2 months than the whole of the last 4 years lol. Looking forward to the next drumeo!

[The Letter M]

Man I just love watching MP play. I missed this! Damn there has been more DT promotion from MP in the last 2 months than the whole of the last 4 years lol. Looking forward to the next drumeo!

Not sure why MP would promote DT in the last four years before he rejoined. 

Kidding, I knew what you meant, but I think the band (with Mangini) got a fair amount of promotion and publicity, as well as notoriety with their Grammy win. I think we all just got comfortable with the status quo after albums like DOT and AVFTTOTW, which were both very good IMO, but perhaps it seemed like fans wanted more/different things from them? I'm not sure, because I don't really keep up with fans of DT outside of this forum, and even here, opinions and viewpoints are pretty varied.

As for Mike's muscle memory on TDOE, I believe it, and it's nice that he's humble and honest about not being 100% accurate on it because I did catch a few flubs here and there but he powered through it. If they really did it in one take, I would easily believe it (that is to say, despite a couple of tiny mistakes, his memory is impeccable, but we already knew this based on his ability to learn songs he already kind of knows, i.e. covers, or re-learn songs for one-off gigs with various bands).

-Marc.

[nobloodyname]

Wow. Tough crowd.

[DTwwbwMP]

I could watch this sob play the phone book all day long . MY FAVORITE ALL-TIME MUSICIAN!

[Dream Team]

Wow. Tough crowd.

I know, right? Oh no he hit a splash instead of a crash  .

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

Well, I would point out that I go to concerts and remember lyrics from songs I haven't heard in ages, but it's not even the same ballpark 

He's just that gifted. Sure, he wrote the song, he played it on and off from 1999 to 2010, but Petrucci himself said that he'd have to re-learn Octavarium if they wanted to play it again, and Mike pulls off this right off the bat, it's really impressive.

It kind of is in the same ballpark for them, though.  With JP's comment about Octavarium, that's a song they only played on one tour cycle, back in 2006, so it makes sense he would need to re-learn it.  But The Dance of Eternity?  As complex as it seems, all of them have played it a thousand times.  It's in their muscle memory.

I also got the sense that when JP addressed that question he meant that learning the parts was actually a very different task for him. which is something I get as a guitar player. It isn't the same as a drummer, who takes liberties with the parts, re-learning it. The guitar in DT just has a different function. It is a rhythm and melodic instrument and it is just more involved to commit all of the parts note for note to memory. JP does not really take liberties with his parts when he plays them live unless it's a certain type of guitar solo.

[hefdaddy42]

Well, I would point out that I go to concerts and remember lyrics from songs I haven't heard in ages, but it's not even the same ballpark 

He's just that gifted. Sure, he wrote the song, he played it on and off from 1999 to 2010, but Petrucci himself said that he'd have to re-learn Octavarium if they wanted to play it again, and Mike pulls off this right off the bat, it's really impressive.

It kind of is in the same ballpark for them, though.  With JP's comment about Octavarium, that's a song they only played on one tour cycle, back in 2006, so it makes sense he would need to re-learn it.  But The Dance of Eternity?  As complex as it seems, all of them have played it a thousand times.  It's in their muscle memory.

I also got the sense that when JP addressed that question he meant that learning the parts was actually a very different task for him. which is something I get as a guitar player. It isn't the same as a drummer, who takes liberties with the parts, re-learning it. The guitar in DT just has a different function. It is a rhythm and melodic instrument and it is just more involved to commit all of the parts note for note to memory. JP does not really take liberties with his parts when he plays them live unless it's a certain type of guitar solo.

JR also said once that JP has the best music memory of anyone he's ever met.  He can remember guitar parts that he hasn't played in decades.  Maybe not perfectly at first, but it's all in there.

[Max Kuehnau]

Yeah I'm not surprised (as good as John is)  and quite a few great players are or were able to do that (or so I've read, Jeff Beck having been another one with the ability apparently) and I also can see why Jordan says John is the best at it Jordan played with.

[Schurftkut]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCbCbbTzyyI

never saw this one before, considering the topic it's kinda fitting for this thread ;-)

[obro]

Anyone know if Mike’s videos for Drumeo are concluded, or there’s more to be expected?
There was the short snippet of 6:00, but I’m not sure if there’s gonna be a full playthrough.

[Schurftkut]

they hinted at a more difficult song for him to play, other than that no idea. I guess most videos are behind their subscription.

[nobloodyname]

I think they only pop their tutorial-style videos behind a paywall. The entertainment ones are always free because they really drum up publicity for the product itself. It's a pretty good model they have.

[MinistroRaven]

Anyone know if Mike’s videos for Drumeo are concluded, or there’s more to be expected?
There was the short snippet of 6:00, but I’m not sure if there’s gonna be a full playthrough.

Posted yesterday at Drum's IG channel:

Watch Mike Portnoy performing Dream Theater’s ‘Under A Glass Moon’ ⚡️

Known for its complexity, Mike shares how he’s gearing up to tackle the challenges of this track after not playing it live for years. This intricate song seamlessly transitions between various time signatures, showcasing the band’s musical technicality.

Head over to our YouTube channel to watch the full #DrumeoLIVE lesson where we talk about his return to Dream Theater and future plans for the band. 🎬

🥁: @mikeportnoy
🎤: @dreamtheaterofficial
🎧: Under A Glass Moon

@mikeportnoy @dreamtheaterofficial
#drumeo #drummer #drumming #drumfam #drumlife #drummerlife #drummerlove #we_love_drums #drumuniversity #drumkit #drumset #drumsticks #music #musician #drumeo #teamdrumeo #dreamtheater #johnpetrucci #progmetal #metal #progressivemetal #progressiverock #music #johnmyung #mikeportnoy #jordanrudess #progrock #dreamtheatercover #dreamtheaterfanpage #dreamtheaterfans #dreamtheater

I headed to their channel, but all I found was this fragment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TqIameIbr8

[Stadler]

I could watch this sob play the phone book all day long . MY FAVORITE ALL-TIME MUSICIAN!

I'm with you on that.  That was a treat.   

[Kocak]

Anyone know if Mike’s videos for Drumeo are concluded, or there’s more to be expected?
There was the short snippet of 6:00, but I’m not sure if there’s gonna be a full playthrough.

Posted yesterday at Drum's IG channel:

Watch Mike Portnoy performing Dream Theater’s ‘Under A Glass Moon’ ⚡️

Known for its complexity, Mike shares how he’s gearing up to tackle the challenges of this track after not playing it live for years. This intricate song seamlessly transitions between various time signatures, showcasing the band’s musical technicality.

Head over to our YouTube channel to watch the full #DrumeoLIVE lesson where we talk about his return to Dream Theater and future plans for the band. 🎬

🥁: @mikeportnoy
🎤: @dreamtheaterofficial
🎧: Under A Glass Moon

@mikeportnoy @dreamtheaterofficial
#drumeo #drummer #drumming #drumfam #drumlife #drummerlife #drummerlove #we_love_drums #drumuniversity #drumkit #drumset #drumsticks #music #musician #drumeo #teamdrumeo #dreamtheater #johnpetrucci #progmetal #metal #progressivemetal #progressiverock #music #johnmyung #mikeportnoy #jordanrudess #progrock #dreamtheatercover #dreamtheaterfanpage #dreamtheaterfans #dreamtheater

I headed to their channel, but all I found was this fragment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TqIameIbr8

The performance is a part of his longer interview+performance video.

[MinistroRaven]

Anyone know if Mike’s videos for Drumeo are concluded, or there’s more to be expected?
There was the short snippet of 6:00, but I’m not sure if there’s gonna be a full playthrough.

Posted yesterday at Drum's IG channel:

Watch Mike Portnoy performing Dream Theater’s ‘Under A Glass Moon’ ⚡️

Known for its complexity, Mike shares how he’s gearing up to tackle the challenges of this track after not playing it live for years. This intricate song seamlessly transitions between various time signatures, showcasing the band’s musical technicality.

Head over to our YouTube channel to watch the full #DrumeoLIVE lesson where we talk about his return to Dream Theater and future plans for the band. 🎬

🥁: @mikeportnoy
🎤: @dreamtheaterofficial
🎧: Under A Glass Moon

@mikeportnoy @dreamtheaterofficial
#drumeo #drummer #drumming #drumfam #drumlife #drummerlife #drummerlove #we_love_drums #drumuniversity #drumkit #drumset #drumsticks #music #musician #drumeo #teamdrumeo #dreamtheater #johnpetrucci #progmetal #metal #progressivemetal #progressiverock #music #johnmyung #mikeportnoy #jordanrudess #progrock #dreamtheatercover #dreamtheaterfanpage #dreamtheaterfans #dreamtheater

I headed to their channel, but all I found was this fragment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TqIameIbr8

The performance is a part of his longer interview+performance video.

Got ya.

[MinistroRaven]

*snip*

[bosk1]

Please do not post TikTok links on this forum.  I know that is not expressly in the rules, but please avoid doing so in the future.  You may continue to post links to most other social media platforms.  Thanks.

[Sycsa]

Please do not post TikTok links on this forum.  I know that is not expressly in the rules, but please avoid doing so in the future.  You may continue to post links to most other social media platforms.  Thanks.

Why? Even though I'm too old for tiktok and usually avoid it, seeing how Dream Theater have an (apparently) official page on the platform, it's quite a puzzling ruling. If it's about ethics, you could make a case for banning most/all social media pages anyway.

[Dream Team]

Eh, I agree with the ruling. DTF does not need to be associated with TikTok in any way, shape, or form.

[Trav86]

Eh, I agree with the ruling. DTF does not need to be associated with TikTok in any way, shape, or form.

Why?

[bosk1]

In short, TikTok's privacy protections, and their data sharing and security protocols are VERY sketchy.  For the protection of this site and its users, that's a risk I don't want to take. 

When we first put this place together and created the forum rules, social media as we now know it was in its infancy, so we didn't really have a rule set to address that.  The link to TikTok above highlighted that fact to me.  The mods and I came up with the following rule addition (although it is still a work in progress and may be modified):

14.  Regarding linking to social media and other websites:  (a) Please exercise discretion and good judgment.  Whenever possible, link to verified sources and avoid unverified gossip, or profiles of users who claim to have inside information and are not verified to actually have such information.  Links to reliable, primary sources should be used where possible.  (b)  Please avoid posting links to TikTok or other platforms that appear to lack sufficient privacy protections and security protocols.  (c)  Doxxing and similar behavior is forbidden.  Links to material that can be used to personally identify someone without their consent are forbidden.

(b) is what applies here.  So, with apologies to TikTok users here that may love that platform.  I'm not discouraging anyone from using it if that's your thing.  Just please don't post links here on the forum. 

And, for the record, Minstro is not in any kind of trouble, and my intent was not to come down on him.  Hopefully, it did not come across that way (and my apologies if it unintentionally did).  I was just making it clear not to post links from that platform is all.

I hope that explanation helps.

[nikatapi]

New video, this time it's Panic Attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa7oOdYPOSk

[TheCountOfNYC]

In short, TikTok's privacy protections, and their data sharing and security protocols are VERY sketchy.  For the protection of this site and its users, that's a risk I don't want to take. 

When we first put this place together and created the forum rules, social media as we now know it was in its infancy, so we didn't really have a rule set to address that.  The link to TikTok above highlighted that fact to me.  The mods and I came up with the following rule addition (although it is still a work in progress and may be modified):

14.  Regarding linking to social media and other websites:  (a) Please exercise discretion and good judgment.  Whenever possible, link to verified sources and avoid unverified gossip, or profiles of users who claim to have inside information and are not verified to actually have such information.  Links to reliable, primary sources should be used where possible.  (b)  Please avoid posting links to TikTok or other platforms that appear to lack sufficient privacy protections and security protocols.  (c)  Doxxing and similar behavior is forbidden.  Links to material that can be used to personally identify someone without their consent are forbidden.

(b) is what applies here.  So, with apologies to TikTok users here that may love that platform.  I'm not discouraging anyone from using it if that's your thing.  Just please don't post links here on the forum. 

And, for the record, Minstro is not in any kind of trouble, and my intent was not to come down on him.  Hopefully, it did not come across that way (and my apologies if it unintentionally did).  I was just making it clear not to post links from that platform is all.

I hope that explanation helps.

I think you made your point clear without it sounding like you were coming down on him. I hope TikTok can improve its privacy protocols in the future as if it were less sketchy to use it would be the best platform for bands and artists to share their music, but as it stands right now, there’s a lot of risks with using it. Obviously if people choose to use it, that’s their prerogative, but it’s understandable why the mods and admins don’t want any of that content linked here.

[Madman Shepherd]

Genuine question:

How is tik tok different than any other platform in regards to date sharing/selling and other huge privacy concerns? My understanding is that they all do it to a huge degree. The only difference is their affiliation with certain governments.

And to clarify, this is in no way a defense of tiktok which I find to be highly toxic and questionable.