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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2380 on: May 16, 2024, 08:45:53 AM »
Having their own studio helps them mostly with the recording, storage and the occasional band rehearsal every once in a while, but since they usually hire external people to mix and master their albums (and that's what they did with A View), it doesn't help too much for that.
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #2381 on: May 16, 2024, 10:17:55 AM »
Having their own studio helps them mostly with the recording, storage and the occasional band rehearsal every once in a while, but since they usually hire external people to mix and master their albums (and that's what they did with A View), it doesn't help too much for that.

Don't want to be a pain in the ass, but(t) is mixer Jimmy T not already working with JP on the album at DTHQ? So on the mixing side they do seem to win some time (ever since they have DTHQ).
And because of this time win with the mixing they can go faster into the mastering phase. And thus those last phases can follow up each other faster and there is less time needed between recording and finishing up/releasing than before.

This is just a guess. If I were still a music journalist this would definitely be a question I would have asked.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2382 on: May 16, 2024, 10:26:34 AM »
Don't want to be a pain in the ass, but(t) is mixer Jimmy T not already working with JP on the album at DTHQ? So on the mixing side they do seem to win some time (ever since they have DTHQ).
And because of this time win with the mixing they can go faster into the mastering phase. And thus those last phases can follow up each other faster and there is less time needed between recording and finishing up/releasing than before.

This is just a guess. If I were still a music journalist this would definitely be a question I would have asked.

Jimmy T works for them as their studio engineer, but he isn't the main mixer for their albums. IIRC, he's only mixed Distant Memories and The Holiday Spirit Carries On.

For the albums they've recorded at DTHQ, two have been mixed by Andy Sneap (TV and AVFTTOTW) and one by Rich Mouser (LTE3). They could totally have him work on that too, but it hasn't been the case before.
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2383 on: May 16, 2024, 10:54:43 AM »
Jimmy T works for them as their studio engineer, but he isn't the main mixer for their albums. IIRC, he's only mixed Distant Memories and The Holiday Spirit Carries On.

For the albums they've recorded at DTHQ, two have been mixed by Andy Sneap (TV and AVFTTOTW) and one by Rich Mouser (LTE3). They could totally have him work on that too, but it hasn't been the case before.

Of course. That's right. How could I forget. I stand corrected.

But these guys know what they do. So still no worries on that front.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2384 on: May 16, 2024, 11:11:46 AM »
Speaking of Andy Sneap, it looks like Judas Priest is off the road for a few months as of July 24th.
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« Reply #2385 on: May 16, 2024, 12:40:14 PM »
With you on this.

I know they won't do it but it would be great. Leave the singles to Taylor Swift.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2386 on: May 16, 2024, 12:45:29 PM »
They’re still on InsideOut right? Expect at least 3 singles.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2387 on: May 16, 2024, 12:51:34 PM »
i'm actually expecting a multi-part documentary series first, about the writing/recording and everything leading up to the album release and tour

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« Reply #2388 on: May 16, 2024, 01:05:46 PM »
i'm actually expecting a multi-part documentary series first, about the writing/recording and everything leading up to the album release and tour

I also expect this album to be their swansong.

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« Reply #2389 on: May 16, 2024, 01:10:54 PM »
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2391 on: May 16, 2024, 01:40:12 PM »
I also expect this album to be their swansong.

You do? Why?
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2392 on: May 16, 2024, 01:47:14 PM »
You do? Why?

It just makes sense. Why would they ask Portnoy back this late in their career and why all of a sudden would Mangini get "fired"? AND how much more touring can James do?.I predict when the album is announced, they will announce a farewell tour.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2393 on: May 16, 2024, 01:51:53 PM »
It just makes sense. Why would they ask Portnoy back this late in their career and why all of a sudden would Mangini get "fired"? AND how much more touring can James do?.I predict when the album is announced, they will announce a farewell tour.

Interesting. We'll see. In a way, I'm not wicked worried about James. It'll be interesting to see how many more years that Jordan wants to tour. I hope this isn't their last album, and I'll be totally shocked if it is. I don't see any slowdown in JP.
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2394 on: May 16, 2024, 01:53:59 PM »
Interesting. We'll see. In a way, I'm not wicked worried about James. It'll be interesting to see how many more years that Jordan wants to tour. I hope this isn't their last album, and I'll be totally shocked if it is. I don't see any slowdown in JP.


JP is a machine! I see a lot of solo projects in his future. I would love to see John get to work with other musicians and vocalists.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2395 on: May 16, 2024, 02:03:02 PM »

JP is a machine! I see a lot of solo projects in his future. I would love to see John get to work with other musicians and vocalists.

I hate projects. I prefer bands.
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2396 on: May 16, 2024, 02:08:45 PM »
It just makes sense. Why would they ask Portnoy back this late in their career and why all of a sudden would Mangini get "fired"? AND how much more touring can James do?.I predict when the album is announced, they will announce a farewell tour.

It's possible.  I wouldn't be surprised if they are treating it as "the last" because maybe it will be due to age and an unpredictable future in 3 years from now.  But I'd put money on at least one more album.  Of course, if JLB comes out in London and can't sing, maybe I start to think you are right.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2397 on: May 16, 2024, 02:21:39 PM »
They can fire Tony Levin from LTE and replace him with Myung, then make that their new main band. :neverusethis:

In all seriousness though, I don't buy for a second this will be their last album. That would totally squander the momentum and attention gained from bringing Portnoy back - it just makes sense to ride that out for two or three albums at least.
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2398 on: May 16, 2024, 06:00:10 PM »
I don't think this will be their last, but they're getting close. I still think that being closer to retirement age is a lot of what pushed them to reunite with Portnoy, but if they're enjoying the process as much as they are making it look on social media I bet they'll try to get at least 2 more albums in.
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2399 on: May 16, 2024, 08:55:24 PM »
I thought they made it abundantly clear they had no plans on stopping any time soon. Not sure how anyone could infer that meant one album and done  ???.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2400 on: May 16, 2024, 09:34:03 PM »
 I'm not rooting for a farewell, but as much as I loved View, they are becoming clones of themselves, what's left? The sponge is fully rung out.

I'm already bored of the new album and its not even done yet.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2401 on: May 16, 2024, 09:34:58 PM »


I'm already bored of the new album and its not even done yet.

Do you need a Snickers?
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« Reply #2402 on: May 16, 2024, 09:35:43 PM »
Do you need a Snickers?

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« Reply #2403 on: May 17, 2024, 05:52:39 AM »
I'm not rooting for a farewell, but as much as I loved View, they are becoming clones of themselves, what's left? The sponge is fully rung out.

I'm already bored of the new album and its not even done yet.

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« Reply #2404 on: May 17, 2024, 05:58:43 AM »
I expect at least one more album after this album and tour. 2 more max, but who knows they may really blow our socks off with this one and have some more albums left in them! Maybe they will become more of a studio band and tour less? They have enough fans that we’d all buy their releases even with less tours.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2405 on: May 17, 2024, 06:09:21 AM »
Nothing would surprise me at this point in their career. If there had been a band meeting about retirement, even with the excitement of the reunion, I think we would have seen or sensed something in their tone or mood. I get the sense that it's not one and done.

A scenario that seems more plausible is that 1 member - could be any of them - said, 'I've only got one tour left in me' and this prompted the reunion. Doubtful but who knows. And in this scenario, if the others felt like continuing, the retiring member would have to be replaced.

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Re: Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2406 on: May 17, 2024, 07:30:29 AM »
I thought they made it abundantly clear they had no plans on stopping any time soon. Not sure how anyone could infer that meant one album and done  ???.

The only time bands ever announce or hint at things like this is when they want to sell Farewell Tours. But I agree that this won't be their last album. Probably only 2-3 left in the tank though, if I had to guess.
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2407 on: May 17, 2024, 07:47:33 AM »
Do you need a Snickers?
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Nothing would surprise me at this point in their career. If there had been a band meeting about retirement, even with the excitement of the reunion, I think we would have seen or sensed something in their tone or mood. I get the sense that it's not one and done.

A scenario that seems more plausible is that 1 member - could be any of them - said, 'I've only got one tour left in me' and this prompted the reunion. Doubtful but who knows. And in this scenario, if the others felt like continuing, the retiring member would have to be replaced.
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« Reply #2408 on: May 17, 2024, 08:36:49 AM »
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Re: Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2409 on: May 17, 2024, 09:30:29 AM »
My prediction has always been: This album for the 40th, which is exciting. Next album, which doesn't have quite the same energy and everyone kind of realizes it's time. Final album and farewell tour around 2030.

In other words... That won't happen. :lol
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« Reply #2410 on: May 17, 2024, 09:42:30 AM »
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2413 on: May 17, 2024, 12:01:20 PM »
I hate projects. I prefer bands.


???

Well, hate is a bit strong, but in general, I prefer to follow bands than a musician going from project to project. One-off things don't really appeal to me.
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« Reply #2414 on: May 17, 2024, 12:03:19 PM »


???


Well, hate is a bit strong, but in general, I prefer to follow bands than a musician going from project to project. One-off things don't really appeal to me.

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