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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2415 on: May 17, 2024, 12:05:21 PM »
Did you like Madmen and Sinners?

I don't recall checking it out, to be honest. Who was in that again? Was that a Matt Barlow thing?
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2416 on: May 17, 2024, 12:06:49 PM »
I don't recall checking it out, to be honest. Who was in that again? Was that a Matt Barlow thing?

Tim please check it out!!! It's a JLB thing.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2417 on: May 17, 2024, 12:12:14 PM »
Tim please check it out!!! It's a JLB thing.

 :facepalm:

That's right.

I may actually have the CD at home. I don't remember. I think I do though. Unfortunately, I don't have it loaded on my iPod.
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« Reply #2418 on: May 17, 2024, 12:17:23 PM »
:facepalm:

That's right.

I may actually have the CD at home. I don't remember. I think I do though. Unfortunately, I don't have it loaded on my iPod.


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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2419 on: May 17, 2024, 12:20:52 PM »
Hey, that's me! :lol
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2420 on: May 17, 2024, 12:48:48 PM »
They should take 2 or 3 minute snippets of the epic, take them out of context and release them as singles.  Maybe issue a 12" maxi-single with a dub version, or have someone like Pettibone or William Orbit do a remix.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2421 on: May 17, 2024, 01:08:18 PM »


???


Well, hate is a bit strong, but in general, I prefer to follow bands than a musician going from project to project. One-off things don't really appeal to me.
I mean, good music appeals to me.  Some of my favorite albums are from projects rather than regular bands.

But whatever.
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2422 on: May 17, 2024, 01:18:21 PM »
I know the term "super group" gets thrown around a lot, but I generally find those kinds of things disappointing.

Yeah, I'm all for good music too. :)
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Re: Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2423 on: May 17, 2024, 04:18:02 PM »
I mean, good music appeals to me.  Some of my favorite albums are from projects rather than regular bands.

But whatever.

One of my favorite records is that JP/JR duo live album they did (I believe it was before JR was in DT as well). JP is mostly on an acoustic guitar.

So yeah, agreed. Project/Band doesn't matter to me as much as "good" does
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Re: Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2424 on: May 17, 2024, 04:34:30 PM »
One of my favorite records is that JP/JR duo live album they did (I believe it was before JR was in DT as well). JP is mostly on an acoustic guitar.

So yeah, agreed. Project/Band doesn't matter to me as much as "good" does

I think he was all electric on that album,  just the acoustic pickups. Wish he did acoustic though.




Also it was after JR joined DT.
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2425 on: May 17, 2024, 07:47:18 PM »
he was using electric
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2426 on: May 18, 2024, 07:32:24 AM »
One of my favorite records is that JP/JR duo live album they did (I believe it was before JR was in DT as well). JP is mostly on an acoustic guitar.

So yeah, agreed. Project/Band doesn't matter to me as much as "good" does

I love that record, link if there is anyone who hasn't heard it: https://open.spotify.com/album/4JFji3dzH5cFYsGeg4IWTS?si=uDh__TrjQHOkFzBqS0iZ5w

That was all his MM guitar by the way, not a true acoustic. I think that album had JP's best piezo tone.
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2427 on: May 18, 2024, 06:00:04 PM »
It was after JR joined.  In fact, I believe it was post-9/11.

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Re: Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2428 on: May 18, 2024, 07:13:43 PM »
Thanks for the corrections, all. Didn't realize that was JP on an electric.
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2429 on: May 18, 2024, 07:15:20 PM »
In fact, I believe it was post-9/11.

Nope, recorded and released in 2000

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Re: Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2430 on: May 18, 2024, 07:35:54 PM »
I ended up listening to a good chunk of An Evening with JR and JP today and I gotta say I think that might be some of JR's best work aside from SDOIT.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2431 on: May 18, 2024, 08:30:26 PM »
I think that album/style of music is a more fitting venue for what Rudess does well than DT to be honest.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2432 on: May 19, 2024, 02:25:59 AM »
The bootleg of that show is brilliant.
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Re: Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2433 on: May 19, 2024, 07:21:42 AM »
Doesn't the bootleg have a couple more songs? Or am I misremembering?

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Re: Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2434 on: May 19, 2024, 12:52:58 PM »
Doesn't the bootleg have a couple more songs? Or am I misremembering?
No, you're correct. Besides all the in-between track dialogue, Bite of the Mosquito and Hourglass (from LTE2) were also performed, although a studio version of Bite of the Mosquito was included on the CD. The original 2000 Sound Mind Music issue didn't even have State of Grace, The Rena Song or Bite of the Mosquito, so at least the 2004 Favored Nations reissue was more complete. I'm guessing Hourglass was omitted from the reissue to keep it to a single CD.
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« Reply #2435 on: May 19, 2024, 02:43:54 PM »
I'd love to hear the bootleg som- ope, don't wanna get myself banned :lol
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Re: Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2436 on: May 19, 2024, 07:33:18 PM »
I think he was all electric on that album,  just the acoustic pickups. Wish he did acoustic though.




Also it was after JR joined DT.

He was, if I'm correct, using his piezo pickup. Sure, still his electronic guitar, but just amplifying its natural acoustic resonances.
I don't love the sound of piezo pickups, but I do consider it to be an acoustic sound.

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Re: Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2437 on: May 20, 2024, 08:27:15 AM »
No, you're correct. Besides all the in-between track dialogue, Bite of the Mosquito and Hourglass (from LTE2) were also performed, although a studio version of Bite of the Mosquito was included on the CD. The original 2000 Sound Mind Music issue didn't even have State of Grace, The Rena Song or Bite of the Mosquito, so at least the 2004 Favored Nations reissue was more complete. I'm guessing Hourglass was omitted from the reissue to keep it to a single CD.

I always really liked this album, but does anyone know where the non-LTE songs came from? Were they written specifically for this concert? Were they jams? Were they written during LTE1&2? SFAM? I never knew and I never heard of them being performed again. And when did they record the studio version of BotM?
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Re: Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2438 on: May 20, 2024, 09:19:11 AM »
I always really liked this album, but does anyone know where the non-LTE songs came from? Were they written specifically for this concert? Were they jams? Were they written during LTE1&2? SFAM? I never knew and I never heard of them being performed again. And when did they record the studio version of BotM?
Most of those pieces were written for this specific performance, if memory serves.
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Re: Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2439 on: May 20, 2024, 10:18:05 AM »
Most of those pieces were written for this specific performance, if memory serves.
Exactly. I believe they were sketched out with basic structures, but they left room for improvisation, too. And IIRC, the track From Within was just an improv piece JR did on the spot, hence its name.
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« Reply #2440 on: May 21, 2024, 07:37:49 AM »
Most of those pieces were written for this specific performance, if memory serves.
Exactly. I believe they were sketched out with basic structures, but they left room for improvisation, too. And IIRC, the track From Within was just an improv piece JR did on the spot, hence its name.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2441 on: May 21, 2024, 08:45:16 AM »
Last 2 DT albums did not have the auto-rip option on Amazon when you bought the physical copy. Every other album I've bought recently DID offer it. Does anybody know if that is a band/label decision, or if not, who determines that. I really love having the digital version available immediately after purchase.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2442 on: May 21, 2024, 01:11:23 PM »
Last 2 DT albums did not have the auto-rip option on Amazon when you bought the physical copy. Every other album I've bought recently DID offer it. Does anybody know if that is a band/label decision, or if not, who determines that. I really love having the digital version available immediately after purchase.

The last one did. I have it.

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« Reply #2443 on: May 21, 2024, 01:15:03 PM »
The last one did. I have it.

Mine didn't. Wonder why. Thanks for responding though

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« Reply #2444 on: May 21, 2024, 01:19:50 PM »
Mine didn't. Wonder why. Thanks for responding though

Sometimes the auto rip gets added after time. I bought the lossless version on Qobuz first, then bought the CD a bit later. D/T had it as well, just checked.

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« Reply #2445 on: May 21, 2024, 01:28:48 PM »
On Amazon? I just looked and don't see the auto-rip on either.

Sorry for derailing....

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« Reply #2446 on: May 21, 2024, 01:36:24 PM »
On Amazon? I just looked and don't see the auto-rip on either.

Sorry for derailing....

Mine has them on Amazon. Let me screen shot....

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2447 on: May 21, 2024, 01:45:11 PM »
OOC, I checked DoT and AVFTTOTW on amazon, and both include the autorip with the CD purchase for me.

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« Reply #2448 on: May 21, 2024, 01:49:37 PM »
On Amazon? I just looked and don't see the auto-rip on either.

Sorry for derailing....









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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts
« Reply #2449 on: May 21, 2024, 03:55:52 PM »
Thank you! So...for whatever reason that autorip detail is not visible when looking at my phone but on my laptop it is. I looked everywhere on my phone for an additional detail section but it just isn't there. Very strange. When I bought both albums it was on my phone but that shouldn't have mattered. If autorip is available, you get it no matter how you order it. Invincible Shield came with autorip. Anyhow, I learned something today so thanks for the assistance!