Parasomnia Timeline Thread

[Indiscipline]

Portnoy and Mangini could actually play together on that set.

[MinistroRaven]

I just wet my pants

[gzarruk]

Portnoy and Mangini could actually play together on that set.

[HOF]

Portnoy probably agreed to come back to DT because he needed a place to store all his drum kits.

[hefdaddy42]

I just wet my pants

I also just wet your pants.

[MirrorMask]

Oh, to be a fly on the wall!!!!

[The Letter M]

Somehow seeing that kit in the studio, presumably with the rest of the band, just filled me with nostalgia of seeing behind the scenes pics of their sessions from the 00s. Oh I cannot wait for more updates, and of course, the album itself.

I wonder if they've got the idea white-board out for Mike to arrange stuff and ideas? He's been doing that with other bands since DT, like Flying Colors and Transatlantic, so I'm curious to see if the others would let him do that again.

-Marc.

[TAC]

Somehow seeing that kit in the studio, presumably with the rest of the band, just filled me with nostalgia of seeing behind the scenes pics of their sessions from the 00s. Oh I cannot wait for more updates, and of course, the album itself.

I wonder if they've got the idea white-board out for Mike to arrange stuff and ideas? He's been doing that with other bands since DT, like Flying Colors and Transatlantic, so I'm curious to see if the others would let him do that again.

-Marc.

I don't see why they wouldn't, if that's how he likes to operate.

[The Letter M]

Somehow seeing that kit in the studio, presumably with the rest of the band, just filled me with nostalgia of seeing behind the scenes pics of their sessions from the 00s. Oh I cannot wait for more updates, and of course, the album itself.

I wonder if they've got the idea white-board out for Mike to arrange stuff and ideas? He's been doing that with other bands since DT, like Flying Colors and Transatlantic, so I'm curious to see if the others would let him do that again.

-Marc.

I don't see why they wouldn't, if that's how he likes to operate.

My only reasoning might be if JP and JR are pretty set in the ways they've done things for the last 13 years, but I don't see them being that strict or not open to Mike's ideas again. Given the writing chemistry that John has built back up with Mike between his last solo album and LTE 3, it seems more likely than not that they'll have Mike dive right back into the arrangement process once more.

EDIT - Looks like Jordan has posted his studio photo as well!

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=952421176240778&set=a.299437788205790

Here we go!! #Dreamtheater16 #dreamtheater

-Marc.

[DTwwbwMP]

Pics:

Thanks! Now I have to go CLEAN UP!

[gborland]

What do y'all think James's studio photo will be? A screenshot of an autotune plugin? 

[TheCountOfNYC]

What do y'all think James's studio photo will be? A screenshot of an autotune plugin? 

It'll be him playing basketball waiting for all of the instruments to be recorded, just like during Scenes From a Memory.

[Indiscipline]

What do y'all think James's studio photo will be? A screenshot of an autotune plugin? 

No. Probably a high end professional vocal booth.

[HOF]

Maybe a tambourine or shaker of some sort.

[wolfking]

Portnoy and Mangini could actually play together on that set.

Pretty sure Mike's ego is already sitting in that second seat.

[Metro]

What do y'all think James's studio photo will be? A screenshot of an autotune plugin? 

A shovel. Or a forklift.

[Cool Chris]

I have never been in a recording studio, I am never done anything related to music or the industry. Saying that, I am still baffled by the fact that James doesn't record his vocals in the studio with the other guys.

[porcacultor]

I have never been in a recording studio, I am never done anything related to music or the industry. Saying that, I am still baffled by the fact that James doesn't record his vocals in the studio with the other guys.

Well, it's not as much of a given as it seems. Either you're overdubbing the vocals after the "core" instrumental tracks are done or you've got an elaborate isolation situation where the singer is in another room and listening to the rest of the band play through their headphones. That last one is if you want the singer to be singing while the band is playing on the spot.

Now picture this: imagine any singer on an off day flubbing their parts. If the rest of the band aren't hearing them, the singer will either resign to try again on a new full band take (which is stressful for the singer and not effective in terms of time) or have the whole band stop and go at it again (which is stressful for the entire band). If the rest of the band is hearing them, a vocal flub might drive everyone off their rocker and force everyone to start again from the top.

Have I mentioned studio time is expensive? I know DT owns DTHQ, but they're still paying the staff for however long it takes for them to get the work done.

If the singer is singing on a later moment, it's on their terms and time (one single flub and they can just ask the engineer to stop recording and cue the track or part again).

I personally romanticize this process thinking the whole band would be interested in sticking around for the whole thing... and that's not always the case. Which isn't a knock on anybody.

Hope this made sense!

[Cool Chris]

First off, I appreciate the post. Yeah, I do get all that and know I am being a bit myopic. In the abstract it just seems weird a group of guys working together to write and record an album are doing a significant part (or parts) of it separately.

[RaiseTheKnife]

Calling it now, next album is a follow-up to 6 Degrees of Inner Turbulence called 7 Degrees of Desperation 

[porcacultor]

First off, I appreciate the post. Yeah, I do get all that and know I am being a bit myopic. In the abstract it just seems weird a group of guys working together to write and record an album are doing a significant part (or parts) of it separately.

I hope I didn't come off as condescending or saying you were being myopic, because I actually think it's a valid point and there definitely is a weird aspect to it (even though I mentioned arguments as to why it "makes sense" for them to do it separately).

In my heart of hearts, it would make the most sense for the band to sort of live together for a while. Not necessarily sleeping in the same room  , but you know, meeting constantly in a rehearsal space, hashing out ideas together, making a sort of drawing board version of the album... do some pre-production before setting out to the studio. Because then it's just a matter of recording it in the way that's most cost-effective, because the material would be born out of the collective interaction of all five members. But that takes time and money since most of them don't live in the same neighborhood anymore (as far as I can tell).

Ultimately, they're choosing to create in the studio and JLB may or may not be there for it. The end product will give out the "illusion" of a full band effort, but they've done that before and it has worked (and very often that's the case for many recordings).

[NoFred]

What do y'all think James's studio photo will be? A screenshot of an autotune plugin? 

No. Probably a high end professional vocal booth.

His backstage mini tent

[Puppies_On_Acid]

Exciting times! So many drums. So many pedals. Octobarns.

There's the callback I was waiting for 

[jammindude]

Just thought I'd take a moment to say that I did a little bit of math, and if Wiki is to be believed, BCSL wrapped up recording in March of 2009.

Which means that Mike may have been officially out of DT for 13 years, but it's been only a month short of 15 years since they were in the studio together.

[Mladen]

What do y'all think James's studio photo will be? A screenshot of an autotune plugin? 

A shovel. Or a forklift.

Excellent. Someone else remembers. Especially the forklift. 

[Zydar]

Now that's a massive drumkit. But I wouldn't expect anything else from MP!

[TheRich13]

Hmmmm..... wonder if JP will lose the beard or at least take it down, from say David Letterman to say George Clooney size , sort of like a new beginning with Mike being back ? There is, of course his beard products company. ... i'm sure I am with the majority that don't care if his beard hits the floor as long as this is a killer album, which probably will be....Thoughts?

[Wim Kruithof]

... as long as this is a killer album, which probably will be....Thoughts?

Home pt. II

[emtee]

I would guess that since the album will be recorded using this kit/configuration, that it's likely the same kit will be on tour. While MP could improvise on a smaller kit and make it work, certain parts would not be quite the same. Lots of tuning, set up time and job security for the tech.

[gzarruk]

Just thought I'd take a moment to say that I did a little bit of math, and if Wiki is to be believed, BCSL wrapped up recording in March of 2009.

Which means that Mike may have been officially out of DT for 13 years, but it's been only a month short of 15 years since they were in the studio together.

But didn't they write/record Raw Dog in the studio later?

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

Cool stuff regarding the drum kit. Someone made a similar remark a page or two ago but MP is going to be a counterweight to JP, and that is a good thing in my book.

Even in that one post you can see the power dynamics have changed. Mangini was asked to reduce the size of his kit going into View. Portnoy's first session back, he comes in with the biggest kit imaginable. I am all for it.

[nikatapi]

Cool stuff regarding the drum kit. Someone made a similar remark a page or two ago but MP is going to be a counterweight to JP, and that is a good thing in my book.

Even in that one post you can see the power dynamics have changed. Mangini was asked to reduce the size of his kit going into View. Portnoy's first session back, he comes in with the biggest kit imaginable. I am all for it.

First thing that came to my mind. Just goes to show the difference between the dynamics (and attitude).

[Awaken]

Thanks for posting the pics for those of us without social media accounts!  The kit looks great, really looking forward to hearing what they'll come up with.  Also really hoping for an 'Escape from the Studio' type mini-tour to dust things off a bit . . . .

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

Pics:

36 (6^2) Degrees of Inner Turbulence confirmed lol

[jammindude]

Just thought I'd take a moment to say that I did a little bit of math, and if Wiki is to be believed, BCSL wrapped up recording in March of 2009.

Which means that Mike may have been officially out of DT for 13 years, but it's been only a month short of 15 years since they were in the studio together.

But didn't they write/record Raw Dog in the studio later?

Excellent point. I sometimes forget about Raw Dog. Not sure when the studio time for that was. Maybe our resident DT encyclopedia Setlist Scotty has that info?