Star Trek: The Next Threaderation

[Adami]

Yeah set before Kirk's time there's so much more that they can't do.

PLUS *nobody* from any series can guest star unless it's set 12 years after Enterprise then the cast will have aged the correct amount.

Sigh.

Patrick can play Picard's great great grandfather.

[Progmetty]

I think the word "Humanoid" is the greatest gift the genre of space travel science fiction has ever gotten, it enables the creators to introduce alien life without resorting to ridiculous designs or making it look like an animal or a bug, a lot of movies and shows haven't utilized the word and they always end up with something that looks silly to me, even critically acclaimed movies like Aliens, E.T. or Independence Day, IMO.
TOS made good use of the word, aliens usually looked human for the most part, save for an odd skin color or bigger heads which are okay. I've had that thought a while back watching TOS and the reason I bring it up now is the alien designs I'm seeing on TNG, these Ferengi mofos are just so damn stupid looking and it almost pulls me away from the seriousness of the plot, let alone the Selay and the Antican from the episode Lonely Among us that I just saw.

[El Barto]

That's very true. But then at times they really take advantage of it. On really low budget weeks, they wouldn't even bother with the skin color or bigger heads. "Eh, just dress them up as Nazis and call it a fluke." In the latter era they resorted to the vag-face phenomenon, where they just stuck prosthetic snappers on people's foreheads and called it a day.

[BlobVanDam]

I'm still convinced the makeup department had some kind of bet going to see how close they could get someone's face to look like a vag without anyone questioning it. There was one in particular that had full on clit-face going on (from memory, I think it was the guy from Critical Care).

Pre-TOS still isn't confirmed yet as far as I know, mostly based on hints, but I hope somehow it's wrong. Given the direction of the ship and the registry, it does appear to be pre-TOS, but they should have learned their lesson from Enterprise.

[Adami]

If it's set pre-TOS, then I'm no longer impressed that they decided to do it in the prime universe. I mean....duh.

[hefdaddy42]

If it really is pre-TOS, I am 1000% less excited than I was.

That really limits the amount of "discovery" they can do.

[Kotowboy]

I'm still convinced the makeup department had some kind of bet going to see how close they could get someone's face to look like a vag without anyone questioning it. There was one in particular that had full on clit-face going on (from memory, I think it was the guy from Critical Care).

Jason Alexander was a good example too.




Gives a whole new meaning to "Giving Head"   

[BlobVanDam]

That's a downright sexy slit he's got going on there. I bet there have been plenty of misunderstandings between species over that one.

It would also give a new meaning to "mindfuck".

[El Barto]

But in his case they spent money on a whole new forehead and a wig. I'm guessing that was more of an artistic decision to keep most of his face recognizable rather than a financial one.

[Kotowboy]

Poor Jason Alexander.

Plays an alien on Star Trek.

Still bald.

[BlobVanDam]

For all we know, that hairline is excellent for his species.

[Kotowboy]

GEORGE IS GETTING UPSET !


THIS GAGH IS MAKING ME THIRSTY !!!

[Progmetty]

Alexander guest stars on TNG?! Color me excited

[El Barto]

Alexander guest stars on TNG?! Color me excited

Nah, that's Voyager. You're at least 200 episodes away from that right now. Pretty good episode, though.

[Kotowboy]

Oh my Gosh.

" Future Imperfect " is always ruined by that TOS style costume at the end and the hilariously cliche alien voice " MY NAME IS BARASH ".

Should have stayed Human looking.

[Orbert]

I like the concept of "Future Imperfect" and most of the episode, but yeah, the ending isn't great.  The concept is still good, just not a great execution.

[El Barto]

While the ending was cheesy, the bigger problem for me was that Tomalak was such a terrible Romulan. If they wanted one to be recurring they should have found a better choice.

[Progmetty]

If Q. isn't the most annoying motherfuck of a character I've ever seen in anything..
I'm on edge about it being a combination between the character and the actor, but boy he's aggravating as fuck!

[El Barto]

Q is an excellent character. He can certainly be annoying, and some of his episodes are pretty weak, but he's also the main focus of some great episodes and from time to time does some pretty cool things.

[Adami]

Q is awesome.


Yea.

[King Postwhore]

Him becoming human is my favorite episode with him.

[Progmetty]

Currently watching Hide & Q, haven't finished it yet. This is the second time I see him on the show. I like how they know now they're completely helpless when he appears but the star fleet has no solutions for that problem, what do we do when Q. appears star fleet? We guess you'll just have to play along captain Picard. But he always threatens to kill us?! Well that's how it is sometimes you know, it's either you deal with that or you retire.
Maybe the recurring "nemesis" concept is a bit weird to me when it comes to Star Trek, I mean to register to it I gotta welcome the idea that the star ship traveling and exploring the galaxy could meet the same exact entity more than once. And there's no reasoning with him, I'm hearing Picard and Riker talking seriously and honestly to him but his replies are usually arrogantly stupid and unrelated to what they said, if the show means to portray him as a superior being, it has certainly failed so far IMO.
Maybe future episodes with him will be much better if you guys like him so much.

[King Postwhore]

When an actor or actress make you hate them so much but you want more you know they are great at what they do.

[Adami]

Q is essentially a god. A very very bored and immature god.

Of course they'll run into him on multiple occasions. He can literally be wherever, whatever and whenever he wants.

And you're right, there's no reasoning with him. He is the most powerful being in existence (along with the rest of his people). There is no defense against him, you literally have NO choice what so ever than to do what he says or try to talk to him, and even then you have nothing with which to threaten him, except for your decision to not partake in his game.

He pushes the crew to explore themselves and what they take for granted more than almost anyone else.

Also, his back and forths with Worf are almost as good as with Picard.

Q: How can I prove to you that I am mortal?
Worf: Die....

[El Barto]

In TNG he's really a once a season character. He just pops up twice in S1. Also, he pops up a lot because he has a strange fascination with humanity. Humans amuse him, and he actually likes Picard and Riker, along with Janeway who you don't know yet. As he's as keen to present them interesting opportunities as he is to just bully and belittle them.

Also, there was always speculation amongst Star Trek nerds that Q might have been Trelain, the lonely squire of Gothos. Interesting thing to ponder.

[Adami]

In TNG he's really a once a season character. He just pops up twice in S1. Also, he pops up a lot because he has a strange fascination with humanity. Humans amuse him, and he actually likes Picard and Riker, along with Janeway who you don't know yet. As he's as keen to present them interesting opportunities as he is to just bully and belittle them.

Also, there was always speculation amongst Star Trek nerds that Q might have been Trelain, the lonely squire of Gothos. Interesting thing to ponder.

Honestly, I think it's more than amusement. I think All Good Things.... hinted pretty heavily that Q sees humanity as a possible race to become similar to Q one day in the distant future and that it's more a matter of expanding the mind than it is building technology.

[soupytwist]

If Q. isn't the most annoying motherfuck of a character I've ever seen in anything..

If I've followed this thread correctly you are watching Trek for the first time ever?   If so you have yet to encounter Neelix.....

[BlobVanDam]

I like Neelix. He's a space rat with a skullet mohawk and the shittiest dress sense in any quadrant. And he always means well. He's the lovable space hobo.

[soupytwist]

I like Neelix. He's a space rat with a skullet mohawk and the shittiest dress sense in any quadrant. And he always means well. He's the lovable space hobo.

He looked like Mr T's runty ginger brother suffering a bout of measles.

Well apart from the fucked up grooming of Kes, then even more fucked up jealously issues.   Then there is the fact he's just utterly annoying nearly ever single time he's on screen.  Aside from that he's great

Neelix is that irritating bumbling comedy sidekick character you nearly always got in 80's cartoon.  Orko, Snarf, Scrappy, Slimer, Godzooky etc...

[BlobVanDam]

I like Neelix. He's a space rat with a skullet mohawk and the shittiest dress sense in any quadrant. And he always means well. He's the lovable space hobo.

He looked like Mr T's runty ginger brother suffering a bout of measles.

I thought you were trying to make the case for him NOT being awesome?

The jealousy episode with Tom Paris was awful, but aside from that I always found him quite endearing.

[soupytwist]

I like Neelix. He's a space rat with a skullet mohawk and the shittiest dress sense in any quadrant. And he always means well. He's the lovable space hobo.

He looked like Mr T's runty ginger brother suffering a bout of measles.

I thought you were trying to make the case for him NOT being awesome?

The jealousy episode with Tom Paris was awful, but aside from that I always found him quite endearing.

Lets agree to disagree on this subject      Who would be your worst ST main character?

[Nefarius]

Tomalak was such a terrible Romulan.

I quite liked him, but in the end - by G'Quan - that's what you get when you ask a Narn to play a Romulan.

Greetings...
Nef

[BlobVanDam]

Tasha Yarr and Pulaski are my most hated. I kept hoping for Tasha to die, and then she did. It was pretty satisfying.
And Pulaski just went out of her way to be a hardcore bitch. Couldn't stand her.

[soupytwist]

Tasha Yarr and Pulaski are my most hated. I kept hoping for Tasha to die, and then she did. It was pretty satisfying.
And Pulaski just went out of her way to be a hardcore bitch. Couldn't stand her.

I actually prefer Pulaski over Crusher.  I think they were looking for a McCoy type character with Pulaski with Data taking the Spock foil, genuinely I believe they were going to build an arc for these two characters, the sad thing is we only really saw the start of it when Pulaski was a bitch to 'it' (data) - I think the character would have soften over time, we started to see it happen as season 2 when on.   That would have been far more interesting than anything Crusher did once she was back (well aside from that ghostgasm).

Tasha died to an Oil slick - I don't care how they tried to retcon her death on 'Yesterday's Enterprise'.  She died to an oil slick, end off.

Not so much a main character but I always hated Keiko - what horrible sins must Miles have committed in previous lives to end up stuck with that miserable whining bitch.

[BlobVanDam]

I was so glad Tasha got such a meaningless and pointless death. Killed by a random tar monster!
Pulaski was far too unlikeable for me to ever accept her character. It was obvious what they were going for with it, but it just wasn't working. She was a crusty old hate filled goat. Not that Crusher was a particularly good character, but compared to Pulaski, she wasn't such a bad option. Female characters really were not that show's strength.

Not so much a main character but I always hated Keiko - what horrible sins must Miles have committed in previous lives to end up stuck with that miserable whining bitch.

I'm more concerned what Keiko did wrong in life to end up with that sack of crap.