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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2013, 09:50:05 AM »
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2013, 09:54:22 AM »
"I liked when Myung looked like a women's figure skating champion."

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2013, 10:03:12 AM »
While we're on Kirk images, this is one I made for the last thread a while back.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2013, 10:19:03 AM »
So about The Animated Series.  I remember watching it when I was little.  I was impressed with how good the voices were, since I knew that there's no way they'd actually get the original cast to do the voices for the cartoon show.  Turns out they did get most of the original cast, which is why the voices were so good.

I was also impressed with some of the storylines.  Turns out they got a bunch of the original writers on board as well.

Basically, it was another season of The Original Series, but animated rather than live action.  Once you get past the fact that it's animated, it's pretty much TOS.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2013, 10:23:37 AM »
5/5 for the thread title Nick  :lol
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2013, 10:47:31 AM »
I'll be mainly partaking in this thread when it is about the movies or TNG.

All discussion about Voyager, Enterprise or DS9 leaves me about as useless as Deanna Troi after she's "sensed" something.


My trekkie friends in school and I always joked about how Troi would only ever look worried then pass out or state the bleedin' obvious.


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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2013, 11:43:15 AM »
I'll be mainly partaking in this thread when it is about the movies or TNG.

All discussion about Voyager, Enterprise or DS9 leaves me about as useless as Deanna Troi after she's "sensed" something.


My trekkie friends in school and I always joked about how Troi would only ever look worried then pass out or state the bleedin' obvious.


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NO SHIT SHERLOCK :lol

Ditto ... Was only a casual watcher of DS9 and Voyager. Was all over TNG though. Trying to make time for Enterprise at the moment.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2013, 11:58:08 AM »
I watch VOY occasionally but I just don't give a shit about that crew like I do with the TNG crew.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2013, 01:00:31 PM »
Woo for a new thread, I stopped following the other one because I just had too much catch-up reading to do.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2013, 01:23:58 PM »
Every so often i'll watch a voyager episode but they just seem like TNG episodes that never made it to air with a crew I don't care about who can't act that well.


Also :

TOS Movie Ranking

1.The Wrath Of Khan
2.The Undiscovered Country
3.The Voyage Home           

4.The Motion Picture
5.The Search For Spock
6.The Final Frontier

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1.Generations
2.First Contact
3.Nemesis
4.Insurrection

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1.Star Trek (2009)
2.Into Darkness

I'm not sure where Into Darkness sits in my overall Movie Rankings but it's definitely top 5.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2013, 04:11:48 PM »
I've noticed that every time someone from Starfleet comes aboard 1701-D - they *always* arrive in an Excelsior class ship . ;D

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2013, 04:29:25 PM »
"We spend most of our lives convinced we’re the protagonist of the story, but we rarely realize that we’re just supporting characters in everybody else’s story. Nobody thinks about you as much as you do."

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2013, 04:37:50 PM »
Plus automatic sliding doors.



Also : fuck yea Star Trek.  :metal

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2013, 04:45:50 PM »
That's pretty much true, really.  I saw a thing on Discovery or History Channel or one of those about how sci-fi writers have "predicted" tech for the past century.  But they turned it around, and what really happens is that inventors and R&D guys look to sci-fi for inspiration.  The most well-known example is the waterbed, a concept which first appeared in a (I think it was) Heinlein novel.  Sci-fi writers have come up with all kinds of cool stuff which may or may not be possible, and techies come up with a way to actually make them.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2013, 04:47:42 PM »
Except the 1973 Cell phone wouldn't fit in your pocket. :lol
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2013, 04:57:43 PM »
That's pretty much true, really.  I saw a thing on Discovery or History Channel or one of those about how sci-fi writers have "predicted" tech for the past century.  But they turned it around, and what really happens is that inventors and R&D guys look to sci-fi for inspiration.  The most well-known example is the waterbed, a concept which first appeared in a (I think it was) Heinlein novel.  Sci-fi writers have come up with all kinds of cool stuff which may or may not be possible, and techies come up with a way to actually make them.

it *would* be a Heinlein novel...  ::)  :laugh:
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2013, 04:59:13 PM »
Except the 1973 Cell phone wouldn't fit in your pocket. :lol

Yeah, 1993 would've been much closer.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2013, 05:09:30 PM »
Except the 1973 Cell phone wouldn't fit in your pocket. :lol

Yeah, 1993 would've been much closer.

That's what I was thinking.  '73 is REALLY early for cell phones...  We were still getting Bell Telephone demos about how to use dialing phones (third grade, here) and the wonderful future of *VIDEO* phones!!!   :omg:  ;D



That's what we were to look forward to!   :justjen
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2013, 05:13:55 PM »
Not that I want to rain on ST's parade, but all those predictions were kind of obvious at the time. All those devices had real-life equivalents in this days:
Communicator = Walkie Talkie
IPad = CRT monitor

all of which had one obvious issue: size. The industry had been laboring towards smaller sizes, ST just followed it to the logical end.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2013, 08:54:46 PM »
iPads are also wireless.  Obviously radio was around, so the idea of a wireless handheld screen wasn't too far-fetched, but the fact is that they didn't exist yet.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2013, 09:58:20 PM »
I would definitely agree that sci-fi has influence design.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2013, 11:11:21 PM »
What Orbert said. But a lot of it wasn't an issue of coming up with the ideas either, it was an issue of not having the technology to pull it off.

Not to mention that touch screen devices were around a long time before Apple turned them into the latest fad anyway. It was not a crazy futuristic idea, even at the time TNG was doing it, so that wasn't really a prediction.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2013, 11:44:41 PM »
My Movie listing....


1.Into Darkness
2.Star Trek (2009)
3.The Wrath Of Khan
4.The Voyage Home
5.The Search For Spock
6.First Contact
7.The Motion Picture
8.Generations   
9.Nemesis     
10.The Undiscovered Country
11.The Final Frontier
12.Insurrection


As far as the ST invention/influence..  The flip communicators of TOS vs. circa 2000 cell phones is spot on.  Yes mobile phones in theory wasn't a leap in 1966, but flip phones the same size and open to use like a communicator? Brilliant!   Also the ipad vs. the early 90's TNG tablet awesome!




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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2013, 04:27:57 AM »
10. The Undiscovered Country below Nemesis ?!

 :) Whatever floats yer boat I suppose. I don't mind Nemesis but TUC is top 3 for me easily.





+ Damon Lindelof was saying how do you use something from TOS Trek but still make it look futuristic - even though in reality we don't even use flip phones anymore and you have to make the Enterprise look like the Enterprise bridge but not have buttons and dials everywhere. It's an odd one. In the 1960's they had to imagine a future based on current tech, but now in the 2010's we have to not only try and honour classic trek tech but also not make it look really old school.  You end up with a 1701 that looks more futuristic than 1701-D, but as technology in reality gets better and better, you have to imagine what a starship in 200 years would look like.

+ Finally : Chris Pine let slip recently that they're all contracted to do " At least four movies ". This makes me happy. This means we have two more movies to look forward to. I don't think they'll end up doing six movies like the original cast but four would do me, if they were all as good as the first two. :)
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2013, 06:18:00 AM »
That is awesome news fo sho!  :tup

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2013, 06:23:44 AM »
Being contracted for four movies doesn't guarantee there will be four movies though, does it? It just means that if Paramount decide to do a 3rd/4th movie, that the cast is under contract to do them.

I'm hoping they stop at a third (I'd prefer they stop now, but since ID was popular, that isn't going to happen). It took them forever just to give us an empty rehash of old Trek, so I don't feel like they have much to offer other than yet another mindless action movie. I want JJ far away from Trek asap, so they can get a show started that is more in the spirit of Trek. It could be just what the dead scifi scene needs right now.

I miss scifi. :(
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2013, 06:41:46 AM »


That last picture of Picard is one of my favorites.

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« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2013, 10:30:12 AM »
Being contracted for four movies doesn't guarantee there will be four movies though, does it? It just means that if Paramount decide to do a 3rd/4th movie, that the cast is under contract to do them.

I'm hoping they stop at a third (I'd prefer they stop now, but since ID was popular, that isn't going to happen). It took them forever just to give us an empty rehash of old Trek, so I don't feel like they have much to offer other than yet another mindless action movie. I want JJ far away from Trek asap, so they can get a show started that is more in the spirit of Trek. It could be just what the dead scifi scene needs right now.

I miss scifi. :(


Well $450m means now more people enjoy Trek than ever before. And i'm totally fine with that.

Also, i've been a trek fan since I can remember and I adored Star Trek AND Into Darkness.

You don't have to watch the next one. I will see it on opening day and judge it on it's own merits like I have with the previous two films.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2013, 08:49:28 PM »
Being contracted for four movies doesn't guarantee there will be four movies though, does it? It just means that if Paramount decide to do a 3rd/4th movie, that the cast is under contract to do them.

I'm hoping they stop at a third (I'd prefer they stop now, but since ID was popular, that isn't going to happen). It took them forever just to give us an empty rehash of old Trek, so I don't feel like they have much to offer other than yet another mindless action movie. I want JJ far away from Trek asap, so they can get a show started that is more in the spirit of Trek. It could be just what the dead scifi scene needs right now.

I miss scifi. :(


Well $450m means now more people enjoy Trek than ever before. And i'm totally fine with that.

Also, i've been a trek fan since I can remember and I adored Star Trek AND Into Darkness.

You don't have to watch the next one. I will see it on opening day and judge it on it's own merits like I have with the previous two films.

It made $450m by appealing to the lowest common denominator, as most big budget Hollywood movies do, which means any care for depth or plot or science is out the window. I've only been a fan since shortly before ST11, so its weaknesses were on its own merit, not because of any comparison to TOS, which I hadn't even seen a single episode of at that point (and which I heavily criticize in this thread anyway :lol ). I still enjoyed both movies as empty action movies though.

It's just a shame that seemingly few of the fans of the new movies have actually become converted Trek fans since (in my own experience that is. I'm not doubting they exist). If I had a dollar for every person who said "I liked the new movies and I don't even like Trek........"  :\ What an absolute shocker!
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« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2013, 10:38:51 PM »
I don't want to use the term because it's so cliché, but there's that sad aftertaste of "sell-out" when it comes to the last two movies. There's nothing wrong with trying to appeal to a large audience. But with those movies I didn't really feel I was watching a Star Trek movie. More a CGI SciFi movie that had familiar characters.
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« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2013, 08:07:53 AM »
I feel the opposite. It felt like Trek to me with a decent budget.

I bet if TNG had $200m to spend on their movies they'd look the same too.

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« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2013, 08:27:40 AM »
Plus it doesn't matter what I say or how much I liked them - i'll always be "wrong" according to Some people on this board who feel like they need to be right about everything.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2013, 09:30:08 AM »
Plus it doesn't matter what I say or how much I liked them - i'll always be "wrong" according to Some people on this board who feel like they need to be right about everything.
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