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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3360 on: August 24, 2016, 10:11:12 AM »
Stick widescreen bars over the top, add some faux epic orchestral music, edit like a cliche trailer complete with the green screen at start, and suddenly people are like OMG SO AWESOME

People are so easy.


Still a better movie than Nemesis though. :biggrin:
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3361 on: August 24, 2016, 10:46:01 AM »
Plus you have to zoom in because TNG was in square format.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3362 on: August 24, 2016, 01:43:11 PM »
I've started a re-watch of TNG, but I'm not hitting every single episode.  I'm being a little selective (especially in the first two seasons).

So I started with "Where No One Has Gone Before", which was much worse than I remembered.  Ye gods.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3363 on: August 24, 2016, 02:26:57 PM »
I've started a re-watch of TNG, but I'm not hitting every single episode.  I'm being a little selective (especially in the first two seasons).

So I started with "Where No One Has Gone Before", which was much worse than I remembered.  Ye gods.

Me too. :o Dear Me. Season 1 of TNG is *SO* bad. . .

What's the episode where Tasha has to fight for those Jamaican Aliens ? Code Of Honour ?

Quite possibly the worst episode of Trek ever. What. A. Mess.

I'd say some eps of TNG S1 are more dated than some eps of TOS.

If anyone was to start TNG from the beginning - i'd say watch Encounter At Farpoint *just* to set everything up then skip straight to S2. Maybe S3...

Some eps of TNG S1 are more dated than some eps of TOS!!

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« Reply #3364 on: August 24, 2016, 03:18:54 PM »
Yeah, I am totally considering skipping the rest of season 1.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3365 on: August 24, 2016, 03:34:10 PM »
I'm on S4 of Voyager.

Last night was the episode where they get 7 of 9.

I'm such a baby. That scene where they disconnect 7 from the collective and she reacts in pain - I was like "awwww :( " because of the face she made and her little yelp....




You can imagine what I think of the scene at the end of JAWS  :xbones


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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3366 on: August 24, 2016, 03:50:28 PM »
Watching Voyager episode S4 E2 The Gift

Jeri Ryan is a great actor. :'(

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3367 on: August 24, 2016, 03:53:45 PM »
About a third of season 1 is perfectly watchable. It's just that the other 2/3 is so bad. I've gone back and watched some of the more decent ones quite recently and they didn't bug me much. I certainly wouldn't tell somebody to skip the whole thing. I'd just warn them that most of it blows.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3368 on: August 24, 2016, 03:58:00 PM »
About a third of season 1 is perfectly watchable. It's just that the other 2/3 is so bad. I've gone back and watched some of the more decent ones quite recently and they didn't bug me much. I certainly wouldn't tell somebody to skip the whole thing. I'd just warn them that most of it blows.

It's really 80s and has that horrible constant synth score. And then there's scenes with no background music or SFX at all which are really jarring with handheld camera which makes it seem really

amateur.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3369 on: August 24, 2016, 04:20:45 PM »
WTF is this ? Apocalypse Now ?

How is this Star Trek ? :lol

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3370 on: August 24, 2016, 05:29:01 PM »
Favourite characters from each series ?

• TOS - Spock

• TNG - Data

• DS9 - Odo

• VOY - EMH

• ENT - tbc



:rollin omg. the scene where Neelix has to teach 7 how to eat.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3371 on: August 25, 2016, 08:21:27 AM »
OK, I rewatched "Datalore" and that wasn't too bad.  But being impatient, and not in the mood to suffer through any more bad material, I skipped straight ahead to "Elementary, Dear Data" which was fun.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3372 on: August 25, 2016, 08:29:37 AM »
Favourite characters from each series ?

• TOS - Spock

• TNG - Data

• DS9 - Odo

• VOY - EMH

• ENT - tbc



:rollin omg. the scene where Neelix has to teach 7 how to eat.
The only one I'd change is DS9, and I'd either go with Garack or Dukat. Weyoun and Kai Ratched a very close third. DS9 is the best example of an ST show where the secondary characters are all far more interesting than the primary ones.

As for ENT, if Shran counts, there you are. Otherwise I might go with the dog.
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« Reply #3373 on: August 25, 2016, 09:04:14 AM »
Favourite characters from each series ?

TOS - McCoy

TNG - Picard or Data

DS9 - Odo, Dax or Bashir

VOY - Seven, Doctor or Kes

ENT - ? Maybe Hoshi?

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3374 on: August 25, 2016, 09:31:10 AM »
Kes ?


Boy was I glad when she left... She was like an irritating cross between Tasha Yar & Deanna Troi.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3375 on: August 25, 2016, 10:06:42 AM »
• TOS - no one, haven't finished it bc bad

• TNG - Data / Picard / Q

• DS9 - this is a tough one since so many of them are great. Jadzia Dax, Odo, Garak would be the first three.

• VOY - no one, haven't finished it bc bad

• ENT - Archer/ T'Pol - This is a bit hard, because for me at least there were no big standouts, but they worked really well together as a team.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3376 on: August 25, 2016, 11:46:17 AM »
:rollin :rollin

Voyager : S4 E7 : Scientific Method.

When you see the EMH drawing in the holodeck and then you ee his drawing and it's TERRIBLE.

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« Reply #3377 on: August 25, 2016, 11:50:30 AM »
Good episode, though.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3378 on: August 25, 2016, 11:58:27 AM »
I'm saying it's a funny joke. Not that it's a bad scene.

I LOVE jokes that don't draw attention to themselves.

If it was a Seth Rogen / Will Ferell film - there'd be 5 minutes of actors screaming about how awful the drawing is.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3379 on: August 25, 2016, 12:09:29 PM »
Woah Michael Ironside.

Oh wait no it's Kurtwood Smith. I always get them confused...

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3380 on: August 25, 2016, 12:27:05 PM »
Woah Michael Ironside.

Oh wait no it's Kurtwood Smith. I always get them confused...

Dumbass!
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3381 on: August 25, 2016, 12:29:03 PM »
Well a double dumbass on you !

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3382 on: August 25, 2016, 12:29:16 PM »
:lol

I'm not sure Kotow will get the reference, and just think you're calling him a dumbass for no reason.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3383 on: August 25, 2016, 12:30:42 PM »
Is it a robocop reference or a Voyage Home ref ?

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3384 on: August 25, 2016, 12:35:48 PM »
Is it a robocop reference or a Voyage Home ref ?
Red Foreman from That 70's Show. Great reply, though.  :tup
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3385 on: August 25, 2016, 12:36:56 PM »
ive not seen it but I know he's in it.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3386 on: August 25, 2016, 12:37:35 PM »
I actually knew him from That '70s Show first, so I always found it funny seeing all of his earlier serious roles where he was often a bad guy. And his appearances in Trek have always amused me too.
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« Reply #3387 on: August 25, 2016, 12:42:00 PM »
He just makes me call everybody dumbass.

Including him as Annorax, actually. The solution was, in retrospect, painfully obvious.
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« Reply #3388 on: August 25, 2016, 12:42:08 PM »
Both he and Ronny Cox seem like theyd be nice in real life.




Edit : Annorax. :lol

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3389 on: August 25, 2016, 02:12:19 PM »
WTF ?!

Voyager : " Random Thoughts " - When Tuvok thinks " violent thoughts " - some of the images are from "Event Horizon" :lol

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3390 on: August 26, 2016, 06:25:35 AM »
Favourite characters from each series ?

• TOS - Spock

• TNG - Data

• DS9 - Odo

• VOY - EMH

• ENT - tbc


TOS : Kirk.
There are only 3 main characters to choose from here Kirk, Spock and Bones and they are all great in their own way.
TNG : Worf.
Toss Up between Picard and Worf.
DS9 : Garek (because I don't want to pick Worf again)..
So many good characters on this show - Bashir, O'Brien, Jax (ver 1), Dukot....
VOY : The Doctor.
Slim Pickings.
ENT : Trip.
Slimmer Pickings.


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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #3391 on: August 26, 2016, 03:43:15 PM »
TNG : Worf.
Toss Up between Picard and Worf.
DS9 : Garek (because I don't want to pick Worf again)..
Worf would actually be a decent pick for DS9 (though IMO far behind several of the secondary characters), but he'd be very low on my list for TNG, even though I dislike damn near all of them. Worf was a weak Klingon for most of that series. He certainly had his better moments when dealing with actual Klingon stuff, but those tended to be offset by a lot of other factors (Troi, his idiot son, his suckiness at his job). Once he got to DS9 he was basically just allowed to be his own guy and it worked far better for him.
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« Reply #3392 on: August 27, 2016, 07:18:03 AM »
What are the overlap seasons of TNG and DS9?  How much cross-pollination/continuity was there between the shows while both were on the air?

I never watched much of DS9 when it was on the air.  When I start my rewatch, will I need to start it while I am still watching TNG or will I be OK to wait until I'm done with TNG?
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« Reply #3393 on: August 27, 2016, 07:22:57 AM »
I can't really think of any major crossover between them, nothing that would benefit from watching them side by side at least. I say just watch TNG, then watch DS9.
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« Reply #3394 on: August 27, 2016, 07:27:05 AM »
More like Picard showing up in the beginning.   There is the same timeline,but no definite episode to crossover on.
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