Star Trek: The Next Threaderation

[PowerSlave]

And I hear that Andorian apples are the tastiest.

I'm picturing a blue apple with not one, but two separate stems sticking out of it.

[Kotowboy]

And I hear that Andorian apples are the tastiest.

I'm picturing a blue apple with not one, but two separate stems sticking out of it.

My fave thing about post TNG Trek is that any device has to have flashing lights on it and any beverage has to be a luminous colour because future

[Kotowboy]

Cold Fire...

" Kes - according to our scans..."

Me - *thinking* " the station is 300 years old...

" The station is 300 years old "

  WTF ?!

[Kotowboy]

Intro to " Prototype " VOY S2 E13 is so RoboCop.

Janeway shoulda said " I love this guy ! "


" Meld "

Hmmmm a crewmember is dead. Who could it be ??

Tuvok ? Janeway ? Kim ? Paris or crewman Brad Dourif who we've never seen before ?



" Dreadnought "

" When a Bomb starts talking I get nervous "

Haha. Dark Star ref ?


Oh For fuck's sake....No wrap up ? Bomb goes off. Credits.

[soupytwist]

So I was at home with a Ill last night, flicking though Netflix and came across a Star Trek documentary called 'The Captains' in which The Shat goes and interviews all the other Star Trek Captains.  It was mostly pretty dull but Avery Brooks is now(?) batshit mental, seriously his interview with Shat is full blown amazing.   The interview is Shat talking to Brooks who is on his piano, he basically ignores any question Shat asks and just plays Jazz making up lyrics full of cod-wisdom, and seems to not be speaking linear!   In the end Shat joins in (seriously) and we end up with this utterly surreal jazz duet. 

I honestly can't tell if ...

- Brooks was just trolling the Shat.
- He is just totally out there.
- He was on LSD.
- The Prophets really did fuck with his mind.

Either way it make strangely compelling and cringeworthy viewing.

[soupytwist]

Double post.

[BlobVanDam]

I'm pretty sure Brooks was off his face in that interview. It was the only part of that doco I didn't like. Everyone else was great.

[soupytwist]

I'm pretty sure Brooks was off his face in that interview. It was the only part of that doco I didn't like. Everyone else was great.

Thought Mulgrew came across a bit defensive, but there again some of Shat's questions were a bit odd in their interview.

[BlobVanDam]

Been a while since I watched it, but I don't remember getting that vibe from Mulgrew. I felt she was very honest and open though, which I liked. Bakula was cool too.
And nothing needs to be said about Shat and Stewart.

[soupytwist]

Been a while since I watched it, but I don't remember getting that vibe from Mulgrew. I felt she was very honest and open though, which I liked. Bakula was cool too.
And nothing needs to be said about Shat and Stewart.

Stewart came across better than he often can do.   Yeah Bakula seemed like a decent bloke, but he's aww shucks personality problem explains why he seemed a lot more comfortable as Sam Beckett but a rather then Cap't Archer.   Chris Pine came across pretty well, although he wasn't in it as much as the others.

[hefdaddy42]

I thought The Captains was really good, and very interesting.

The Brooks segment was my favorite part 

[Kotowboy]

Star Trek Voyager : Lifesigns.

This episode is interest...OH ITS THAT FUCKING POOL HALL *AGAIN*




I had a thought about Encounter At Farpoint. When Wes fell in the river in the holodeck - shouldn't he be dry immediately after he left ? Or are some things real in there and the rest is a projection ?

[Kotowboy]

Voyager " Investigations ".

Wow - a two minute single take in the opening. Pretty Impressive.

[Adami]

Star Trek Voyager : Lifesigns.

This episode is interest...OH ITS THAT FUCKING POOL HALL *AGAIN*




I had a thought about Encounter At Farpoint. When Wes fell in the river in the holodeck - shouldn't he be dry immediately after he left ? Or are some things real in there and the rest is a projection ?

Honestly, it depends on how much thought you want to give that stuff. The holodeck was always considered a mixture of holograms and replicator technology, which is why if someone eats in the holodeck, they're actually eating food that has essentially been replicated there. So you could argue that the water was replicated and thus real.

[El Barto]

The problem is that the Moriarty episode pretty much blows that out of the water. They were very clear that holodeck matter loses cohesion after it leaves the holodeck. Picard demonstrated with a book, as I recall, so it wasn't just the Moriarty character that's effected.

And now that he brought it up, the whole The Naked Now thing started after Wesley hit Picard with a holographic snowball, also outside the HD.

[Adami]

The problem is that the Moriarty episode pretty much blows that out of the water. They were very clear that holodeck matter loses cohesion after it leaves the holodeck. Picard demonstrated with a book, as I recall, so it wasn't just the Moriarty character that's effected.

And now that he brought it up, the whole The Naked Now thing started after Wesley hit Picard with a holographic snowball, also outside the HD.

Like I said, they explained it as a mixture of holograms and replicated material. It just so happens the books were holograms, but they easily could have been replicated and then would be able to leave the holodeck.

[Kotowboy]

If I was pitching ideas for Discovery - i'd love to overturn the cliches of the previous 4 series.

" Sir ! Someone is stealing a shuttle ! "

" Lock on tractor beam ! "

" Got him. Bringing it back now. "

Cut to The Brig.






Moriarty : You cannot leave the holodeck. I am in control

Officer : Computer - End Program.

* Program ends - crew leave *

[El Barto]

I thought the Moriarty episode was excellent. The first one with Data as Holmes was pretty weak. (And on a side note, Data walked out of the holodeck carrying a piece of holographic paper.) The premise, the multiple mindfucks and the resolution of SiaB were all quite good.

[Adami]

I also liked their portrayal of Moriarty. He wasn't a pure villain or anything and you could really empathize with him.

[abydos]

https://www.startrek.com/article/bryan-fuller-reveals-discovery-details

Eehh... doesn't inspire confidence but I will still give it a fair shot.

[jammindude]

I'm watching the episode with that DAHM CAHNDLE!!!!   

[PowerSlave]

I'm watching the episode with that DAHM CAHNDLE!!!!   

BBC America? It was on when i got home from work. Yep, it's bad.

[Kotowboy]

HAHAHA. 


" In Star Trek 4 - The crew of the Enterprise go back in time in a vehicle which previously belonged to Christopher Lloyd ".

[El Barto]

watched a couple of early Seven episode of voyager (Day of Honor, The Raven). Seems like there was a run where Seven was much softer than usual. At first she was 100% Borg. But then she started to come to grips with being Anneke Hanson and talked with a good deal of humanity. She was inquisitive and very unsure of herself. Gave her a real vulnerability. Not too long after she just turned cyborg and spoke with the same demeanor as a highly condescending Tuvak. Any vulnerability was replaced by supreme arrogance. Shame that didn't last a bit longer. They could have spent a whole season with her trying to learn the ropes. They moved pretty quickly into the adversarial role.

[Kotowboy]

I'm watching several eps of Voyager a day and Kes always sounds overdubbed.

[Adami]

I'm watching several eps of Voyager a day and Kes always sounds overdubbed.

Really? I've never noticed that.

[Adami]

Apparently Shatner has apologized for Star Trek V.

Not for how bad it was, mind you, but for running out of money and not including fire shooting rock monsters that he had wanted.

[Kotowboy]

Nearly up to S4 of Voyager.

After Voyager i'll watch Enterprise as it's only short and then DS9 finally.

[Adami]

Nearly up to S4 of Voyager.

After Voyager i'll watch Enterprise as it's only short and then DS9 finally.

While I don't have the same distaste for seasons 1 and 2 of Enterprise, it gets realllllly good in season 3. Of course my version of really good and yours might be different. Season 3 is quite dark and largely focused on a single story. Not a lot of fun or light hardheartedness in it.

[Kotowboy]

I have seen some eps.

I actually like the augment trilogy although I thought it was a bit of a stretch trying to retcon Dr. Noonien Soong being the creator of Khan.

[Adami]

I have seen some eps.

I actually like the augment trilogy although I thought it was a bit of a stretch trying to retcon Dr. Noonien Soong being the creator of Khan.

Well, the names work. Noonien Soong, Khan Noonien Singh.

[Kotowboy]

Like I said. Retcon.

Roddenberry came up with those names IRL to try to find a friend by that name.

[Adami]

Like I said. Retcon.

Roddenberry came up with those names IRL to try to find a friend by that name.

Yup! But pretty much everything that links Enterprise to any other show is retcon anyway. It's the problem with prequel series.

Assuming Discovery tries to tie in with any other series of ST, you'll be seeing tons of it.

[El Barto]

The plot thickens. Janeway is on the holodeck sopping wet, and then hauls ass to the bridge, as they've come under attack, where she arrives dry, hair neatly coiffed.

Nearly up to S4 of Voyager.

After Voyager i'll watch Enterprise as it's only short and then DS9 finally.

While I don't have the same distaste for seasons 1 and 2 of Enterprise, it gets realllllly good in season 3. Of course my version of really good and yours might be different. Season 3 is quite dark and largely focused on a single story. Not a lot of fun or light hardheartedness in it.

Once I actually looked at all of the episodes I figured out that season three has about the same ratio of good/bad episodes as any other season. A lot of it is just standalone episodes with little or no link to the Xindi arc, and in some cases they're the absolute bottom of the barrel. The Western, the mutants and the Beauty and the Beast episode might well be the worst of the entire series. It also had too many different plot angles happening (the sphere builders thing was just too much). It probably was the best of the 4 seasons, by virtue of the standouts, but I don't consider it all that much better than the others.

[Kotowboy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUn3ZxYmE6c

If Yesterday's Enterprise was a movie.


I think a few of the episodes could have been movies. We should have had All Good Things as the swan song instead of Nemesis.