I don't think we are really disagreeing, so much as just saying the same thing in different ways. It's not that they shy away from it, but more so that they are in denial about a lot of things being controversial/shocking, while simultaneously going to great lengths to be controversial/shocking. A lot of quotes I saw were along the lines of, "Yeah, nothing to see here. If people feel this is controversial, that's on them, not us." I dunno. I still feel like I'm not really articulating what I am trying to get across, but it just rubs me the wrong way. Even if I ultimately didn't listen to them, I would...hold them in higher regard, for lack of better description, if they portrayed themselves and their music more along the lines of, "Look, we are all about shock and controversy, and if you don't get off on that type of thing, we're probably just not the band for you, but check us out anyway and draw your own conclusions." I don't know if that makes sense.