2022 NFL Thread (Chiefs win Super Bowl 57)

[Nick]

But I don't have a specific recollection of V, or of a lot of the earlier ones, for that matter.

The first SB I have any memory of is 20, and other than Niners/Bengals and the Bills Wide Right game, my early experiences were a bunch of blowouts. But I was a kid watching with my dad, so didn't care one bit.

The first one I watched was 12.  It was great.  My newly adopted team made the Super Bowl in my first year watching football!  Woo hoo!  Little did I know I was in for years of heartbreak.  Until 32, the ONLY game won by the team I wanted to win was 16 (and that's only because, at the time, I liked both the 49ers and the Bengals), and most of that long run of NFC dominance were blowout games.

Right, I meant I didn't have specific recollections of the write-ups on those early ones.  The first one I watched was 15.  Even as an east bay kid, I didn't really like the Raiders, so I was rooting for Philadelphia.  My dad was a 49ers fan, so I adopted them as my team, even though they were pretty awful that year.  What an amazing turnaround in year 2, with such moment as The Catch and winning their first ever SB!  I'll always remember those.  Lots of others that followed are a blur just because there have been so many, and I didn't watch them all (no interest in seeing the Bills vs. the Giants, for example.  What an awful matchup)

Heh, I can relate to some awful 49er teams...

I was 8 when the Niners won the super bowl, and it's around then when I went against my local pressure and adopted them as my team.

That said, football wasn't really a big part of things for me for awhile, but I started taking a lot more interest going in the 00s. I still remember the 2002 playoffs and that huge win over the Giants in their first game.

But then I had like a decade of horrible/mediocre teams while I started being really interested.

[Stadler]

Zach Wilson is on my shit list.

[Dave_Manchester]

Zach Wilson is on my shit list.

Have to say I was very surprised to see you and Barto pick the Jets last night in our Pick 'em game. Every site I checked before the game said the poor lad was in for another mauling.

[Stadler]

Zach Wilson is on my shit list.

Have to say I was very surprised to see you and Barto pick the Jets last night in our Pick 'em game. Every site I checked before the game said the poor lad was in for another mauling.

I saw a late piece on our local (New England) sports channel that had the Jets getting a point; I think the idea was that while the Jax offense was better than the Jets, the Jets D was better than the Jags by more.   I'm also steadfast about changing my picks once I made them; the two points you got on me a couple weeks ago were BOTH games I changed at the last minute - the only two this year.  So while information came out late in the week for both the Jets versus Detroit and the Jets versus the Jags, I refused to change them.  Superstition got the better of me.

[El Barto]

Zach Wilson is on my shit list.

Have to say I was very surprised to see you and Barto pick the Jets last night in our Pick 'em game. Every site I checked before the game said the poor lad was in for another mauling.

Jags D is nothing special, and I expected the wind and rain to neutralize Lawrence and both team's kicking games. If it were run game vs run game I favored NYJ at home rather than a team from the Wang playing in a monsoon. Unfortunately I woefully misunderestimated how terrible that fool Zach Wilson was going to be.

[Stadler]

Zach Wilson is on my shit list.

Have to say I was very surprised to see you and Barto pick the Jets last night in our Pick 'em game. Every site I checked before the game said the poor lad was in for another mauling.

Jags D is nothing special, and I expected the wind and rain to neutralize Lawrence and both team's kicking games. If it were run game vs run game I favored NYJ at home rather than a team from the Wang playing in a monsoon. Unfortunately I woefully misunderestimated how terrible that fool Zach Wilson was going to be.

Boom.   Is this kid blowing it, or what? He's got a set of tools, but turns out the tool is him.  Sad, really.

[axeman90210]

Hef, what kind of draft capital can we expect to get from Carolina to take Zach Wilson off our hands?

[Nick]

Hef, what kind of draft capital can we expect to get from Carolina to take Zach Wilson off our hands?

JFC

[Dream Team]

Zach Wilson is on my shit list.

Have to say I was very surprised to see you and Barto pick the Jets last night in our Pick 'em game. Every site I checked before the game said the poor lad was in for another mauling.

Jags D is nothing special, and I expected the wind and rain to neutralize Lawrence and both team's kicking games. If it were run game vs run game I favored NYJ at home rather than a team from the Wang playing in a monsoon. Unfortunately I woefully misunderestimated how terrible that fool Zach Wilson was going to be.

Boom.   Is this kid blowing it, or what? He's got a set of tools, but turns out the tool is him.  Sad, really.

Seems like he spends too much time putting his tool in his mom's friend instead of learning how to play football.

[DragonAttack]

So, were the cameras hoping to catch a picture of something like that happening on the sidelines Thursday night?   I tuned in for the 4th quarter, where he didn't play a down, and they still showed him 25-30 times for no frickin reason (as they do other QBs, coaches, assistants, etc......makes it almost unbearable to watch when I do watch).

[KevShmev]

Given his arm talent, Zach Wilson is probably used to always being able to hit the big play with long bombs, but in the NFL, those do not happen often, so you have to learn to manage the game and pick your spots when you want to go deep, and he looks like a guy who cannot figure it out.  He is toast.

[DragonAttack]

So, Happy Festivus Maximus to the Baltimore Ravens.  It'll be great to wear a similar shirt off and on for the next three weeks.



That said, this has to be the worst 10-5 heading to the playoffs team I have ever followed.  And, it might just be the worst 10-5 heading to the playoffs team ever.

[lonestar]

Trying to temper my excitement....but holy shit are the Niners firing on all cylinders, and to think we'll get Deebo back in a week or two.

They looked so damn good today.

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

Trying to temper my excitement....but holy shit are the Niners firing on all cylinders, and to think we'll get Deebo back in a week or two.

They looked so damn good today.

They are definitely looking good. There toughest foe is going to be the Eagles in the playoffs, but it's looking more and more likely we will have a Bills-Niners superbowl. Then the Bills can lose their 5th superbowl 

[Dream Team]

I would love to know if a Patriot player ever fumbled away a chance at a go-ahead TD late in the 4th quarter when TB was there. I bet it never happened. And that lateral last week?? Mac deserves better than this. Team should be 9-6.

[TAC]

I would love to know if a Patriot player ever fumbled away a chance at a go-ahead TD late in the 4th quarter when TB was there. I bet it never happened.

Of course it never happened. Because Tom Brady willed it not to happen. 

[lonestar]

Trying to temper my excitement....but holy shit are the Niners firing on all cylinders, and to think we'll get Deebo back in a week or two.

They looked so damn good today.

They are definitely looking good. There toughest foe is going to be the Eagles in the playoffs, but it's looking more and more likely we will have a Bills-Niners superbowl. Then the Bills can lose their 5th superbowl 

I'm dearly hoping for that match up, my kid is a hardcore Bills fan.

On a side note, what does Bills stand for?

Boy
I
Love
Losing
Superbowls

[Cool Chris]

On a side note, what does Bills stand for?

Boy
I
Love
Losing
Superbowls

 

[King Postwhore]

I would love to know if a Patriot player ever fumbled away a chance at a go-ahead TD late in the 4th quarter when TB was there. I bet it never happened. And that lateral last week?? Mac deserves better than this. Team should be 9-6.

You know, there had to be but I don't remember. I do remember in 2009 in a playoff game, there was a fumble against the Ravens when i was still trying to get to my seat. I left an hour before kickoff. It was nuts. 

[El Barto]

I don't know why I never learn my lesson about changing my pick at the last minute. Every time I do it I get burned and I swear I'll never do it again. RLR. GB was an obvious pick here and I just didn't have the conjones to stick with it.

[KevShmev]

I don't know why I never learn my lesson about changing my pick at the last minute. Every time I do it I get burned and I swear I'll never do it again. RLR. GB was an obvious pick here and I just didn't have the conjones to stick with it.

I loved GB and the points today, but didn't have the balls to bet it.  Darn it. 

Just think...a few weeks ago, Emmanuel Acho was arguing on FS1 that Tua was better than Justin Herbert. 

[Cool Chris]

Goofed and picked the Broncos because I had it in my head Rypien would make the start. Wasn't following NFL news this week.

[TheCountOfNYC]

I don't know why I never learn my lesson about changing my pick at the last minute. Every time I do it I get burned and I swear I'll never do it again. RLR. GB was an obvious pick here and I just didn't have the conjones to stick with it.

I loved GB and the points today, but didn't have the balls to bet it.  Darn it. 

Just think...a few weeks ago, Emmanuel Acho was arguing on FS1 that Tua was better than Justin Herbert. 

Emmanuel Acho is a moron, much like most sports analysts.

[Stadler]

I don't know why I never learn my lesson about changing my pick at the last minute. Every time I do it I get burned and I swear I'll never do it again. RLR. GB was an obvious pick here and I just didn't have the conjones to stick with it.

Story of my (sports Pick’em) life.   I’ve written about that a couple times.   

Chris, if it matters, I thought he’d start too.   Wilson’s worse than Ryan and he’s been benched twice!

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

Man, the Broncos got wrecked!

[Stadler]

For the first time ever, I’m getting the sense that Brady’s body isn’t doing what his brain is telling it to do.  THREE bad downfield throws (the last for an INT).  Underthrown and off target.  It’s no crime; he’s 45 for God’s sake.  I can’t really blame those on the routes being run.

[faizoff]

Bucs are not winning the division and not making the playoffs. Team is just not in sync with each other. Carolina is probably the division winner with the momentum they seem to be having of late.

[Stadler]

We’ll find out next week.   That’s why Brady is the goat.   The only play that matters is the next one.

[KevShmev]

Emmanuel Acho is a moron, much like most sports analysts.

Acho is actually a really smart guy, but that was a terrible take on his part. 

For the first time ever, I’m getting the sense that Brady’s body isn’t doing what his brain is telling it to do.  THREE bad downfield throws (the last for an INT).  Underthrown and off target.  It’s no crime; he’s 45 for God’s sake.  I can’t really blame those on the routes being run.

He looks about done, but while he has never looked this consistently bad in the regular season, I am still taking the "I will believe the Bucs are out of it when they lose in the playoffs" approach.  I have seen this film too many times already.

If nothing else, it's gonna be hilarious when the Cowboys go 13-4 and lose in the 1st round to a 9-8 or 8-9 Tampa team. 

[KevShmev]

Also, Denver finally fired Hackett.  Should have happened three months ago.

[El Barto]

Emmanuel Acho is a moron, much like most sports analysts.

Acho is actually a really smart guy, but that was a terrible take on his part. 

For the first time ever, I’m getting the sense that Brady’s body isn’t doing what his brain is telling it to do.  THREE bad downfield throws (the last for an INT).  Underthrown and off target.  It’s no crime; he’s 45 for God’s sake.  I can’t really blame those on the routes being run.

He looks about done, but while he has never looked this consistently bad in the regular season, I am still taking the "I will believe the Bucs are out of it when they lose in the playoffs" approach.  I have seen this film too many times already.

How many people thought the dude was done in 2014?

[Dream Team]

Brady's 10 completions by air yards from down 16-6 to tied 16-16:

-6
-6
3
0
4
0
-1
6
4
-4

That's 0 air yards to gain 93 yards (YAC).

How many plays before Arizona realized they might need to cover the RB in the flat? 

[KevShmev]

How many people thought the dude was done in 2014?

Maybe not done, but fading, yes, and the numbers backed it up, as I remember the stats on his deep passes getting less effective for example. I think that is when he started going to the fake doctor to stay in great shape and improve his overall body mobility and whatnot as he started to age, and the rest is history. 

[El Barto]

How many people thought the dude was done in 2014?

Maybe not done, but fading, yes, and the numbers backed it up, as I remember the stats on his deep passes getting less effective for example. I think that is when he started going to the fake doctor to stay in great shape and improve his overall body mobility and whatnot as he started to age, and the rest is history.

Of course he's fading. I agree with you. I'm just suggesting that the guy seems to fade a whole lot slower than what we're accustomed to. It's hard to predict his trajectory, and numerous times he's looked done and leveled off for a while. Good quarterbacks can compensate for a loss of physical skills in other areas; particularly intelligence and experience. Peyton hung on a few more years by simply picking apart defenses in the shorter game. When TB12 has looked good this year that's what he's done. He's clearly coming up on the end of his career, but that doesn't mean he can't still be dangerous any given Sunday.

[King Postwhore]

How many people thought the dude was done in 2014?

Maybe not done, but fading, yes, and the numbers backed it up, as I remember the stats on his deep passes getting less effective for example. I think that is when he started going to the fake doctor to stay in great shape and improve his overall body mobility and whatnot as he started to age, and the rest is history.

He's used the fake doctor around 2006.  Willie McGinest was working with Guerrero and that's how Brady was introduced to him.