2022 NFL Thread (Chiefs win Super Bowl 57)

[lordxizor]

Eh, I'm not counting the Packers or the Bucs out just yet. IMO, this year is wide open. Both of those teams are underperforming, but should easily be in contention to win their divisions.

Completely agree. As a Vikings fan, I love to see the Packers lose. But I won't count them out being only 2.5 games behind with 10 weeks to go. The Packers need a pretty large change in how they're playing to turn things around, but crazier things have happened. And I'm not very confident in the Vikings to run away with the division.

[hefdaddy42]

I read Rogers's lips after a particularly awful play yesterday when he said "What are we doing?"  I don't ever remember him doing that before. 

[Skeever]

The funny thing is, when you get passed the Eagles, it's very easy to imagine the rest of the higher-up teams in the Power Rankings ending the year something like 9-8, 8-9, etc. The Jets? Check! Giants? Check! Vikings? Check! Cowboys? Check!

That leaves things wide open for even teams that are underperforming now, like the Packers and Bucs. That's what makes this season so interesting, though. Not even halfway in yet, but usually by now, we start to see a lot more separation in the league that what we've seen thus far. And after the Eagles, Bills, and Chiefs, it's a hodgepodge of teams that are significantly flawed in at least one area of the ballgame.

[Samsara]

We lost our star in the making RB, but got the win. JETS ARE 5-2! Holy shit! LOL. I mean, we have the Patriots next weekend, which probably means a big fat "L", but these days, you never know!

[Stadler]

The funny thing is, when you get passed the Eagles, it's very easy to imagine the rest of the higher-up teams in the Power Rankings ending the year something like 9-8, 8-9, etc. The Jets? Check! Giants? Check! Vikings? Check! Cowboys? Check!

That leaves things wide open for even teams that are underperforming now, like the Packers and Bucs. That's what makes this season so interesting, though. Not even halfway in yet, but usually by now, we start to see a lot more separation in the league that what we've seen thus far. And after the Eagles, Bills, and Chiefs, it's a hodgepodge of teams that are significantly flawed in at least one area of the ballgame.

I think it's premature to include the Eagles in the same realm as the Bills and the Chiefs. 

[TheCountOfNYC]

The funny thing is, when you get passed the Eagles, it's very easy to imagine the rest of the higher-up teams in the Power Rankings ending the year something like 9-8, 8-9, etc. The Jets? Check! Giants? Check! Vikings? Check! Cowboys? Check!

That leaves things wide open for even teams that are underperforming now, like the Packers and Bucs. That's what makes this season so interesting, though. Not even halfway in yet, but usually by now, we start to see a lot more separation in the league that what we've seen thus far. And after the Eagles, Bills, and Chiefs, it's a hodgepodge of teams that are significantly flawed in at least one area of the ballgame.

I think it's premature to include the Eagles in the same realm as the Bills and the Chiefs.

I think 6-0 needs to be respected no matter what. They handed the Vikings their lone loss this season so far and the Cowboys one of their two. It’s not like they’re only beating up on bottom dwellers. They’re winning against teams with playoff aspirations. Sure the NFC isn’t as good as the AFC, but the Eagles are clearly the class of that conference so far this season, and I think writing them off when they’re the lone undefeated team is a mistake. And to be clear, I hate the Eagles and all things Philadelphia besides cheesesteaks, but they have been impressive so far.

[Stadler]

The funny thing is, when you get passed the Eagles, it's very easy to imagine the rest of the higher-up teams in the Power Rankings ending the year something like 9-8, 8-9, etc. The Jets? Check! Giants? Check! Vikings? Check! Cowboys? Check!

That leaves things wide open for even teams that are underperforming now, like the Packers and Bucs. That's what makes this season so interesting, though. Not even halfway in yet, but usually by now, we start to see a lot more separation in the league that what we've seen thus far. And after the Eagles, Bills, and Chiefs, it's a hodgepodge of teams that are significantly flawed in at least one area of the ballgame.

I think it's premature to include the Eagles in the same realm as the Bills and the Chiefs.

I think 6-0 needs to be respected no matter what. They handed the Vikings their lone loss this season so far and the Cowboys one of their two. It’s not like they’re only beating up on bottom dwellers. They’re winning against teams with playoff aspirations. Sure the NFC isn’t as good as the AFC, but the Eagles are clearly the class of that conference so far this season, and I think writing them off when they’re the lone undefeated team is a mistake. And to be clear, I hate the Eagles and all things Philadelphia besides cheesesteaks, but they have been impressive so far.

I won't argue that at all.  All reasonable points. 

[cramx3]

I still can't believe how the Giants keep pulling out these come from behind wins.  I thought for sure they were going to lose on that last pass play, but somehow just managed to keep the WR out of the endzone.  Just another gutsy performance. 

[Stadler]

I still can't believe how the Giants keep pulling out these come from behind wins.  I thought for sure they were going to lose on that last pass play, but somehow just managed to keep the WR out of the endzone.  Just another gutsy performance.

But it shows how tenuous it is; Barkley should have gone down sooner, thus cutting the time in half, and the Jags had NO BUSINESS being on the 12 yard line, or whatever it was, to begin with.

[cramx3]

I still can't believe how the Giants keep pulling out these come from behind wins.  I thought for sure they were going to lose on that last pass play, but somehow just managed to keep the WR out of the endzone.  Just another gutsy performance.

But it shows how tenuous it is; Barkley should have gone down sooner, thus cutting the time in half, and the Jags had NO BUSINESS being on the 12 yard line, or whatever it was, to begin with.

That entire last possession was very odd and the refs were all over the place at the end of that game.  I think the refs actually really were giving the Giants the calls all game long until that last drive, like they were trying to even things up. I do agree, it should have never come down to that, but they still held up. 

Also, loved how the Jaquars stadium was filled with Giants fans.  I guess all those NYers who moved to Florida came out yesterday.

[TheCountOfNYC]

Two things.

1) Is anyone gonna tell the Jaguars that they got absolutely fleeced in that trade?

2) I’m ready to form a religious around Joe Douglas.

[King Postwhore]

3:30 wake up call and the Pats are making it easy to go to bed early.

[TAC]

3:30 wake up call and the Pats are making it easy to go to bed early.

I can relate. It's still early though.

[King Postwhore]

7am flight to Washington DC. 

[TAC]

7am flight to Washington DC.

Conference?

[KevShmev]

Bill Burr is supposed to be the 2nd guest on the Manning Cast tonight. I may have to turn it on just to see that.  I wasn't watching this game, but Burr is awesome, so that will be good.

[TAC]

Bill Burr is supposed to be the 2nd guest on the Manning Cast tonight. I may have to turn it on just to see that.  I wasn't watching this game, but Burr is awesome, so that will be good.

Oh I'll have to see that. What channel is that on?

[KevShmev]

ESPN2.

[TAC]

Cool. I found it.

[King Postwhore]

Bill Burr is supposed to be the 2nd guest on the Manning Cast tonight. I may have to turn it on just to see that.  I wasn't watching this game, but Burr is awesome, so that will be good.

I got a 3:30 am call and now I have to watch. I've got to admit.  The Manningcast is better than the regular game cast.

[TAC]

I can't watch the Manningcast. Seems awful.

[King Postwhore]

It's amazing. What are you talking about Willis?

[TAC]

What time is Bill Burr coming on?

[King Postwhore]

2nd half. Right at the beginning.

[TAC]

Oh OK. Thank you. Now I can stop flipping over.

[Stadler]

Peyton: I love you giving advice on the RPO.
Eli: I can coach it, I can’t do it.   

[King Postwhore]

Bill Burr:  I've got to admit Peyton that it pisses me off that you are so funny in your commercials. 

 

[TAC]

Burr in the Mannigcast has been a painful segment to watch, honestly.

[King Postwhore]

What are you talking about?  That was funny

[TAC]

Not really.

[King Postwhore]

You have no funny bone dude.

[El Barto]

Is it just me, or are they one of the better tackling teams in the league?   There were about three or four really nice, open-field, one-on-one tackles that shut down what could have been big plays.

I think it might just look that way because of how absolutely awful they were last year.    They're definitely majorly improved, and I saw some good open field tackling yesterday. Over the course of the season I've seen some sloppy tackles, too, though. Still, big improvement from last year.

This was a regression to last year's tackling and the obvious ramification.

My initial inclination was that switching to Zappe was a disastrous move. BZ has the hot hand right now, but we all know that McCorkle is the horse you put your money on. That might change, but Mac has the pedigree. Right now Bill's taking a very big risk that he crashes the kid and he has to be euthanized right there on the side of the field. If he comes through this he'll be better for it, but the messaging is that NE is real close to moving on from him already. That's not good. Interestingly, somebody who's been in this exact situation is Troy Aikman. Shame he didn't have the balls to bring up the impact Steve Walsh had on his trajectory. It would have been excellent insight.

In any case, the game demonstrated quite well that BZ's not the wunderkind Patriots fans are making him out to be. Circumstances have been quite different for both QB's, and looking to start BZ over McCorkle is just silly. Great grist for the talking heads, though.

That said, the pick McCorkle threw to get himself benched was butt ugly. Christ. Seems that changing systems on the kid really did put the zap on his head.

[TheCountOfNYC]

This might be the first time in years that the Jets will be favored against the Pats. I can’t wait to be in attendance next Sunday.

[KevShmev]

Pre-Week 8 Power Rankings
01 Buffalo Bills - the team to beat, as they are loaded everywhere, but need to not falter like last year after winning at KC in the regular season
02 Kansas City Chiefs - what Mahomes and the offense just did to that great defense in SF was scary
03 Philadelphia Eagles - 6-0 and the schedule is not difficult, so the 1 seed is theirs if they continue to play well
04 New York Giants - considering Daniel Jones is the QB, what Brian Daboll has done with this team is unreal
05 Cincinnati Bengals - 4-1 after a tough start, they are looking like the team that went to the Super Bowl last year
06 Dallas Cowboys - top notch D, but need to say run-heavy on offense, even with Prescott back
07 New York Jets - losing Breece Hall is big and there are still questions about their QB, but 5-2 is 5-2
08 Minnesota Vikings - Kirk Cousins continues to be the most unfairly disrespected QB in the league
09 Baltimore Ravens - this feels like a team that could win a playoff game and be a tough out in their second, but it's hard to see this team making a deep run
10 Tennessee Titans - they were a mere afterthought for many, but Vrabel continues to show what a good head coach he is

Top 5 MVP candidates
01 Josh Allen
02 Patrick Mahomes
03 Micah Parsons
04 Saquan Barkley
05 Jalen Hurts

[Stadler]

Is it just me, or are they one of the better tackling teams in the league?   There were about three or four really nice, open-field, one-on-one tackles that shut down what could have been big plays.

I think it might just look that way because of how absolutely awful they were last year.    They're definitely majorly improved, and I saw some good open field tackling yesterday. Over the course of the season I've seen some sloppy tackles, too, though. Still, big improvement from last year.

This was a regression to last year's tackling and the obvious ramification.

My initial inclination was that switching to Zappe was a disastrous move. BZ has the hot hand right now, but we all know that McCorkle is the horse you put your money on. That might change, but Mac has the pedigree. Right now Bill's taking a very big risk that he crashes the kid and he has to be euthanized right there on the side of the field. If he comes through this he'll be better for it, but the messaging is that NE is real close to moving on from him already. That's not good. Interestingly, somebody who's been in this exact situation is Troy Aikman. Shame he didn't have the balls to bring up the impact Steve Walsh had on his trajectory. It would have been excellent insight.

In any case, the game demonstrated quite well that BZ's not the wunderkind Patriots fans are making him out to be. Circumstances have been quite different for both QB's, and looking to start BZ over McCorkle is just silly. Great grist for the talking heads, though.

That said, the pick McCorkle threw to get himself benched was butt ugly. Christ. Seems that changing systems on the kid really did put the zap on his head.

In the postgame with Scott Van Pelt, Aikman missed another opportunity to make that point you raised (while talking about Fields).  He was clear though, that Mac Jones will be starting next week and no mistake. I think that's right.  It depends on how Bill fronts it in the clubhouse.  I think Jones is probably a LITTLE better prepared to handle this given where he comes from.

I will say this; I like Jones, I like his skills, I love how he moves in the pocket, but there's an intangible with him that I haven't got past yet; he's still thrown too many goofy balls (some intercepted) that I get a Carson Wentz vibe from him that he HAS to shake if he's going to be even very good, let alone great.