2020 NFL Thread v. Tom Brady aging better than Mila Kunis

[El Barto]

Is there ever a week when the Cowboys game isn't nationally televised? Geez. Over the years the Cowboys have been featured way more than other teams.

Probably not much longer. I didn't see it, but it sounds like Dak broke his ankle. They may have the best best backup in the league in Andy Dalton, but Dak was the only one keeping them alive.

[TAC]

A lot of people expected Dalton to be a Patriot this year.

[ProfessorPeart]

Don't seek out pics of Dak's injury. I was watching the game and his foot was pointed in a direction that it really should not be. He's having surgery today because it was so bad. Reminded me of my car accident. I was on a stretcher and my leg was straight but my foot was pointing 90 degrees to the right. Don't think Dak was as bad as mine and I needed total reconstruction surgery. Still, my ankle kills me to this day. Hurts like a mother right now.

Dalton threw two ridiculous balls in a row to get them a chip shot for the win.

[cramx3]

I'm just glad I wasn't watching the game at the moment to actually see it as that stuff really eeks me out. While my team lost and I expected them to, other than the injury, that was one hell of an entertaining game.

[King Postwhore]

A lot of people expected Dalton to be a Patriot this year.

Who?  The 10 morons who live in their parents basement who call into WEEI?

[TAC]

A lot of people expected Dalton to be a Patriot this year.

Who?  The 10 morons who live in their parents basement who call into WEEI?

Had Newton not been available, Dalton would've been a Pat. I thought Schefter reported they were interested.

[King Postwhore]

So you believe Rumours by agents of Andy Dalton?

If they really did, he would have been signed before Dallas did as w backup. 

[TAC]

[King Postwhore]

Exactly you gullible child.

[TAC]

 

[Dream Team]

Wilson magic strikes again! LOL Vikings.

[dparrott]

Yet another ass clenching Seahawks win. 

HOW BOUT THEM RRRRRRAIDERS?? Droppin 40 on Mahomes!!!

[emtee]

Gruesome injury! I feel terrible for him.

[hefdaddy42]

That was really too bad about Prescott.

The Panthers continue to look better than expected.  The new coach's draft strategy, which I didn't agree with at the time (he used all 7 picks on defensive players), has resulted in a lot of young, very fast players on D.  That, combined with Teddy Bridgewater's excellent play, and the emergence of Robby Anderson at WR and Mike Davis at RB, has made for a really interesting start.

[ProfessorPeart]

Everyone is talking about Alex Smith's return, which is great, but I am also super impressed and inspired by Teddy. I remember the reports coming out of the Vikings camp after his injury. Beyond gruesome. To see him competing at the level he is, it's pretty amazing and I could not be happier for him.

[hunnus2000]

Totally fcking gruesome and I'm not just talking about Prescott, I'm also talking about the Cowboys "D" or lack thereof! Dak has had one hell of year and I am not just talking about football either but he will get through this. I'm hoping the the Boys will get back to their bread and butter in running the hell out of Zeke.

[Dream Team]

Yet another ass clenching Seahawks win. 

HOW BOUT THEM RRRRRRAIDERS?? Droppin 40 on Mahomes!!!

That makes sense actually. It looks like Mahomes is going to have to play defense too this year if a KC is going to repeat.

[Stadler]

Yet another ass clenching Seahawks win. 

HOW BOUT THEM RRRRRRAIDERS?? Droppin 40 on Mahomes!!!

That makes sense actually. It looks like Mahomes is going to have to play defense too this year if a KC is going to repeat.

You guys are killing me.  I swear.


On other news, I saw the injury, and now I wish I didn't.   Supposedly the bone punctured the skin, too, so while this is a healable injury, there's going to be some care that has to be taken.   I'm no Cowboys fan, but he seems a decent guy, and you hate to see that happen to anyone.

On still other news, Brees looks my age. 

[TAC]

Has there been any reason given why Zimmer didn't kick a FG on 4th and inches last night?

[Stadler]

Has there been any reason given why Zimmer didn't kick a FG on 4th and inches last night?

The numbers.  Seriously.

Before the snap, they had a 94% chance of winning.  If they converted, they won and it improved their chances of winning 6% (so it's a 100% chance of winning).  They turn it over, it decreased their chances of winning by I think it was 15% (so a 79% chance of winning).  They kick the field goal, their chances of winning didn't improve one bit (it was still 94%).  THat's the math that teams are using now.  Someone like John Harbaugh does that for almost every decision.

[Stadler]

Halftime, and they blurred out the foot when replaying the tackle on Dak.    He's out for four to six months, likely closer to the six. 

[TAC]

Has there been any reason given why Zimmer didn't kick a FG on 4th and inches last night?

The numbers.  Seriously.

Before the snap, they had a 94% chance of winning.  If they converted, they won and it improved their chances of winning 6% (so it's a 100% chance of winning).  They turn it over, it decreased their chances of winning by I think it was 15% (so a 79% chance of winning).  They kick the field goal, their chances of winning didn't improve one bit (it was still 94%).  THat's the math that teams are using now.  Someone like John Harbaugh does that for almost every decision.

Now that is fuzzy math!

If they kick a FG, Seattle has to go 75 yards, score a TD AND a 2 pt conversion just to TIE the game.

Fuck them then. That's what they get!

[cramx3]

Has there been any reason given why Zimmer didn't kick a FG on 4th and inches last night?

The numbers.  Seriously.

Before the snap, they had a 94% chance of winning.  If they converted, they won and it improved their chances of winning 6% (so it's a 100% chance of winning).  They turn it over, it decreased their chances of winning by I think it was 15% (so a 79% chance of winning).  They kick the field goal, their chances of winning didn't improve one bit (it was still 94%).  THat's the math that teams are using now.  Someone like John Harbaugh does that for almost every decision.

Now that is fuzzy math!

If they kick a FG, Seattle has to go 75 yards, score a TD AND a 2 pt conversion just to TIE the game.

Fuck them then. That's what they get!

Also, they were running all over them, to get one more yard considering all the runs even on that drive, it was a no brainer for me to go for it there to seal the deal

[TAC]

How'd that work out?


They should've kicked the FG.

[cramx3]

doesn't mean it was the wrong call at the time, would you say that if KC scored 8 and won in OT?  Which given that final drive of further distance, seems possible. Like others said, it really made sense to go for it

[TAC]

I don't know. Yes, a first down would've sealed it, but at the end of the day, they lost the game. I was watching the game and when they came out in formation, I was like WTF are you doing? Kick it! That extends the lead to 8.

[El Barto]

How'd that work out?


They should've kicked the FG.

You've got a king-nine and the dealer's showing a 4. Because you're not an idiot you're going to stand pat. The dealer flips a 6 and draws a jack for the win. Were you dumb for not taking a card with 19? Conversely, the drunken frat boy in the chair next to you has the exact same king-nine, but he thoughtlessly takes a card and draws a 2 to win. Was it a good move on this part, or was he just an idiot that just got lucky?

Moral of the story is that sometimes you make the right call and you still lose.

[TAC]

Well, if the offence can't get 6 inches, coupled with the defense unable to hold a team 94 damn yards from their endzone....

Fuck them then. That's what they get!

[Stadler]

How'd that work out?


They should've kicked the FG.

You've got a king-nine and the dealer's showing a 4. Because you're not an idiot you're going to stand pat. The dealer flips a 6 and draws a jack for the win. Were you dumb for not taking a card with 19? Conversely, the drunken frat boy in the chair next to you has the exact same king-nine, but he thoughtlessly takes a card and draws a 2 to win. Was it a good move on this part, or was he just an idiot that just got lucky?

Moral of the story is that sometimes you make the right call and you still lose.

Well put.   Coaches make the call, but the players got to play.   

[cramx3]

Well, if the offence can't get 6 inches, coupled with the defense unable to hold a team 94 damn yards from their endzone....

Fuck them then. That's what they get!

If you were watching, you would have seen the Vikings offense runnig wild on Seattle.  Getting those 6 inches was obviously risky, but it definitely looked like a low risk high reward.  Of course....

Coaches make the call, but the players got to play.   

this is where the failure was.  Players just couldn't execute and then the Seattle offense DID execute.  Even the commentators were saying it was the right call to go for it.

[hefdaddy42]

I thought they clearly made the right call by going for it, no question.  Mainly because I had no doubt whatsoever that Russell Wilson would score another touchdown if he got the chance, and kicking the FG would give him the chance.

[TAC]

Alright alright. TAC is dumb. I get it!

[King Postwhore]

Alright alright. TAC is dumb. I get it!

Finally you do.

[Dublagent66]

It definitely wasn't the right call to go for it.  A chip shot FG has a higher percentage of success than a 4th & 1.  You have to remember, the Vikings were ahead by 5 points.  Kick the FG and increase the margin to 8.  That way, if RW takes the hawks down to score (which he's most likely to do anyway), you're forcing a 2 pt. conversion.  Which they ended up trying anyway and didn't get it.  So, in that scenario, the Viking either win the game by 2 or it goes to OT.  They didn't give themselves a chance to win by going for it on 4th.

[TAC]

It definitely wasn't the right call to go for it.  A chip shot FG has a higher percentage of success than a 4th & 1.  You have to remember, the Vikings were ahead by 5 points.  Kick the FG and increase the margin to 8.  That way, if RW takes the hawks down to score (which he's most likely to do anyway), you're forcing a 2 pt. conversion.  Which they ended up trying anyway and didn't get it.  So, in that scenario, the Viking either win the game by 2 or it goes to OT.  They didn't give themselves a chance to win by going for it on 4th.

Yeah, that's how I saw it.