2020 NFL Thread v. Tom Brady aging better than Mila Kunis

[mike099]

The local media is not giving the Titans much chance of winning tonight against the Bill’s.

[TheCountOfNYC]

Two things:

1) The Titans made every team wonder if practice is necessary.

2) The dumpster fire that is this Jets season continues. How do you mismanage a star player so badly that you can’t even trade him?

[Cool Chris]

The Titans made every team wonder if practice is necessary.

[Cool Chris]

The dumpster fire that is this Jets season continues. How do you mismanage a star player so badly that you can’t even trade him?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30095589/nfl-power-rankings-week-6-1-32-poll-plus-team-biggest-weakness

NFL Power Rankings Week 6: 1-32 poll, plus each team's biggest weakness

32. New York Jets (0-5)
Week 5 ranking: 32
Biggest weakness: Football

 

[Dream Team]

LOL at that moron Bell. Forced his way out of a great organization in the playoff hunt every year to go to the worst team in the NFL and get released.

[T-ski]

LOL at that moron Bell. Forced his way out of a great organization in the playoff hunt every year to go to the worst team in the NFL and get released.

Some athletes are in it more for the money than the glory.

[axeman90210]

In fairness, that's what I would do

[El Barto]

Seems to me the problem with the Bell thing is that he was more valuable to them than Adam Gase, but once he started shooting his mouth off you had to protect the integrity of the team. I reckon NYJ would be better off with Bell than Gase, but you couldn't sack AG without validating Bell's bullshit. If Bell had just kept his fool mouth shut he'd have probably gotten what he wanted pretty soon.

[Dublagent66]

I had no idea the Titans were gonna hand the Bills their ass yesterday.  I sure screwed that one up.   

[Stadler]

I had no idea the Titans were gonna hand the Bills their ass yesterday.  I sure screwed that one up.   

And they did.  That was DECISIVE, in all facets of the game.   I certainly thought the Titans COULD win that, but I didn't see that specific outcome coming either.

[hunnus2000]

I had no idea the Titans were gonna hand the Bills their ass yesterday.  I sure screwed that one up.   

And they did.  That was DECISIVE, in all facets of the game.   I certainly thought the Titans COULD win that, but I didn't see that specific outcome coming either.

What I didn't see coming was Tannehill becoming a decent NFL QB.

[hunnus2000]

BTW - I have a question - If a player has the Predator style haircut (long hair out of the back of the helmet) can you tackle them by the hair? Is that legal?

[T-ski]

BTW - I have a question - If a player has the Predator style haircut (long hair out of the back of the helmet) can you tackle them by the hair? Is that legal?

Yes, it is legal.

[Dublagent66]

BTW - I have a question - If a player has the Predator style haircut (long hair out of the back of the helmet) can you tackle them by the hair? Is that legal?

Yes, it is legal.

Which doesn't make much sense because if grabbed from behind, it could cause the same type of injury that made horse collar tackles illegal. 

[hunnus2000]

BTW - I have a question - If a player has the Predator style haircut (long hair out of the back of the helmet) can you tackle them by the hair? Is that legal?

Yes, it is legal.

Which doesn't make much sense because if grabbed from behind, it could cause the same type of injury that made horse collar tackles illegal. 

Yeah - that what my thinking was as well.

[cramx3]

BTW - I have a question - If a player has the Predator style haircut (long hair out of the back of the helmet) can you tackle them by the hair? Is that legal?

Yes, it is legal.

Which doesn't make much sense because if grabbed from behind, it could cause the same type of injury that made horse collar tackles illegal. 

Yeah - that what my thinking was as well.

Then cut your hair?  I think it's too difficult to rule against grabbing hair because it would lead to everyone growing their hair and being much more difficult to tackle or likelihood of getting a penalty.

[Dublagent66]

How bout just tackle the way the old school guys did it?  They didn't need long hair to grab onto.  Tackle the right way.

[hunnus2000]

How bout just tackle the way the old school guys did it?  They didn't need long hair to grab onto.  Tackle the right way.

I would consider the dreads to be part of the uniform.

[hefdaddy42]

How bout just tackle the way the old school guys did it?  They didn't need long hair to grab onto.  Tackle the right way.

If we had tackles the way the old school guys did, we would have injuries on every other play.

[King Postwhore]

How bout just tackle the way the old school guys did it?  They didn't need long hair to grab onto.  Tackle the right way.

If we had tackles the way the old school guys did, we would have injuries on every other play.

The Mark Gastineau way.

[hefdaddy42]

How bout just tackle the way the old school guys did it?  They didn't need long hair to grab onto.  Tackle the right way.

If we had tackles the way the old school guys did, we would have injuries on every other play.

The Mark Gastineau way.

The Dick Butkus Way.

The Mean Joe Greene Way.

The Ray Nitschke Way.

[Dublagent66]

How bout just tackle the way the old school guys did it?  They didn't need long hair to grab onto.  Tackle the right way.

If we had tackles the way the old school guys did, we would have injuries on every other play.

There weren't injuries every other play back then.  I meant there's a fundamental way to tackle someone.  Grabbing hair or a uniform only means that you didn't do it correctly in the first place.  Try not to take what I said out of context.

[El Barto]

And now the Falcons are out. According to Schefter, multiple positives and the facilities are shutting down.

[King Postwhore]

How bout just tackle the way the old school guys did it?  They didn't need long hair to grab onto.  Tackle the right way.

If we had tackles the way the old school guys did, we would have injuries on every other play.

The Mark Gastineau way.

The Dick Butkus Way.

The Mean Joe Greene Way.

The Ray Nitschke Way.

I miss those day.  I understand why though.

[Dublagent66]

And now the Falcons are out. According to Schefter, multiple positives and the facilities are shutting down.

Jeez!  As if starting 0-5 and losing the head coach wasn't bad enough.  Looks like their season is over before it had a chance to start.

[Dream Team]

After listening to all the talking heads discussing Brady yelling at teammates, I kind of had an epiphany: why can't Brady's veteran teammates yell at HIM when he screws up? After all, a shitty pass that misses the receiver by 5 yards and costs you a down is worse than a false start penalty that only costs 5 yards. You should only yell at teammates if you've played a near-perfect game yourself. Oh yeah, and who forgot what down it was again? I mean if anyone deserved a good ass-ripping . . .

[King Postwhore]

Have you ever heard of players yelling back at veteran QB's?  Why not?  That are the generals on the field.   

[cramx3]

Have you ever heard of players yelling back at veteran QB's?  Why not?  That are the generals on the field.

Sometimes you see a WR yell at them, but those are usually the more hot headed type of players you see do that, like a TO.  And they usually come off looking poorly.  However, I don't think Brady should be yelling at his new teammates personally. (although I'm not sure the circumstances here)

Funny though, I think Bill Obrien's most notable thing before being a head coach was yelling at Tom Brady    Like that kind of put him in the spotlight as being a leader in some way.

[King Postwhore]

This happens to a lot of the great cerebral QB's in their twilight.  Dan Marino comes to mind.  They know exactly where every player should be in their routes and are frustrated when a player isn't there.  What makes Brady look bad is the 4 down gaff.  The mental errors of Brady to the rest of the team is so small but because he's in the spotlight that 1 or 2 mistakes are amplified.

[cramx3]

This happens to a lot of the great cerebral QB's in their twilight.  Dan Marino comes to mind.  They know exactly where every player should be in their routes and are frustrated when a player isn't there.  What makes Brady look bad is the 4 down gaff.  The mental errors of Brady to the rest of the team is so small but because he's in the spotlight that 1 or 2 mistakes are amplified.

Well, you also just don't expect him to make that mistake either, especially at that point in the game.  If that was first quarter, it probably wouldn't have been a big deal.  But the GOAT at the end of a game trying to win it?  Yea, that looks really bad. 

[hunnus2000]

This happens to a lot of the great cerebral QB's in their twilight.  Dan Marino comes to mind.  They know exactly where every player should be in their routes and are frustrated when a player isn't there.  What makes Brady look bad is the 4 down gaff.  The mental errors of Brady to the rest of the team is so small but because he's in the spotlight that 1 or 2 mistakes are amplified.

You may have a point. In Dallas, Tony Romo and Troy Aikman were heavily criticized for getting pissed at running backs or receivers for not knowing their assignments and I don't think there is any disagreement that those two are students of the game. In fact, being the "on field general" is why Troy retired.

[King Postwhore]

This happens to a lot of the great cerebral QB's in their twilight.  Dan Marino comes to mind.  They know exactly where every player should be in their routes and are frustrated when a player isn't there.  What makes Brady look bad is the 4 down gaff.  The mental errors of Brady to the rest of the team is so small but because he's in the spotlight that 1 or 2 mistakes are amplified.

Well, you also just don't expect him to make that mistake either, especially at that point in the game.  If that was first quarter, it probably wouldn't have been a big deal.  But the GOAT at the end of a game trying to win it?  Yea, that looks really bad.

In the day and age of headsets, I also blame the coaching staff.

[cramx3]

This happens to a lot of the great cerebral QB's in their twilight.  Dan Marino comes to mind.  They know exactly where every player should be in their routes and are frustrated when a player isn't there.  What makes Brady look bad is the 4 down gaff.  The mental errors of Brady to the rest of the team is so small but because he's in the spotlight that 1 or 2 mistakes are amplified.

Well, you also just don't expect him to make that mistake either, especially at that point in the game.  If that was first quarter, it probably wouldn't have been a big deal.  But the GOAT at the end of a game trying to win it?  Yea, that looks really bad.

In the day and age of headsets, I also blame the coaching staff.

Well, the coach said Tom knew, makes me think they communicated properly and he just had a brain fart.  Who knows. 

[King Postwhore]

It's hard to trust Arians.  He talks out of both sides of his ass sometimes.

[Stadler]

How bout just tackle the way the old school guys did it?  They didn't need long hair to grab onto.  Tackle the right way.

If we had tackles the way the old school guys did, we would have injuries on every other play.

There weren't injuries every other play back then.  I meant there's a fundamental way to tackle someone.  Grabbing hair or a uniform only means that you didn't do it correctly in the first place.  Try not to take what I said out of context.

I think there's something to be said for the equipment being as much a hinderance as a help.   Rugby is a tough, physical game, but they don't have the pads that football players do.  I get that it's a different game, with players in different positions, but still.  If you don't have a helmet, you can't lower the helmet into someone.  You're thinking more about your technique and your positioning.   

I'm not suggesting that we get rid of padding or equipment, I'm just saying that it's a dynamic, and one that's hard to calibrate the "sweet spot".