Final Fantasy Discussion Thread

[Perpetual Change]

Yeah, I always hated that kid at highschool anime club who'd stand in the door and act like he wasn't as bad as the other nerdy guys. 

[Ultimetalhead]

It just occurred to me that I'm not entirely sure who you're digging at.

[Perpetual Change]

You said you were fulfilling the duty of the guy who "thinks he's a really cool guy," so I'm just running with that 

[Ultimetalhead]

Right. I just saw anime and thought of Gyno. 

Carry on.

[Genowyn]

I never went to anime club because

A) I didn't watch anime in high school
B) They spent all their time watching Naruto and other bullshit


Anyway there is no excuse for some random Shinra guy calling Reno "Sis" near the beginning of the game. What the fuck was that?

[Ultimetalhead]

Why the hell not?

[Perpetual Change]

I never went to anime club because

A) I didn't watch anime in high school
B) They spent all their time watching Naruto and other bullshit


Anyway there is no excuse for some random Shinra guy calling Reno "Sis" near the beginning of the game. What the fuck was that?

Final Fantasy 7's dialog isn't that great, but here's the thing: it was the best Square had done yet. Maybe FF7's dialog is like 60 percent accurate. I'm not sure. That's still better than how it had been before. Most FF dialog isn't very good, but the translators of 7 seem to have made it their own, so I'd say they did a pretty good part, aside from the occasional NPCs saying incomprehensible things.

[Genowyn]

VI had a fucking amazing translation. So did Chrono Trigger. What the hell are you talking about?

[Ultimetalhead]

VI had a fucking amazing translation. So did Chrono Trigger. What the hell are you talking about?

This is true.

I stand behind VII as the best though. The dialog in that game just...works. I don't know why.

[Perpetual Change]

VI had a fucking amazing translation. So did Chrono Trigger. What the hell are you talking about?

Aside from 6 being given the wrong title, both of the original SNES translations of those games are PG'd versions of the originals. Which is pretty bizarre considering CT was already pretty darn PG.

[Genowyn]

Son of a submariner!

[Perpetual Change]

LOL I remember that.

Unfortunately, never been able to get into 6. I got up to the part where you're on the floating rock. For classic FF, I prefer 4.

[Ultimetalhead]

I can't bring myself to play VI any more either. I'm at the part where you get Gau, and I just have no desire to continue.

[Perpetual Change]

Yeah, that game is weird for me. I spent a lot of time playing, but it always felt like the good stuff was about to happen and just hadn't yet. The thing I hated too is the people who swore by it were usually a couple years older than me. So I always had to deal with MY generations game (7) getting  put down by the 6 people, who were also usually role models like older cousins and the like.

On the other hand, I love CT.

[Ultimetalhead]

I have the same problem with CT. Except, I'm being forced to play it this weekend.

[Perpetual Change]

Oh? Are  you doing the Livestream again? I didn't know you had that problem with the game. lol. That DOES explain your fail, though. haha.

[Ultimetalhead]

I don't have a problem with it. I just burned out on it when I did the livestream thing. Maybe I'll start liking it again during this.

Also, I don't know how you missed it. There's a big Caps Lock'd thread on GD about it, but anyway: Yes, I'm doing a 12 hour marathon stream this Saturday, from 3 PM-3 AM. I have a games schedule up in the first page of the thread.

[Genowyn]

How far were you in CT anyways? Right about to go to Magus' Castle, or something?

LOL I remember that.

Unfortunately, never been able to get into 6. I got up to the part where you're on the floating rock. For classic FF, I prefer 4.

A lot of the best of FFVI happens in the World of Ruin, which is immediately after the Floating Continent.

[Elsydeon]

How far were you in CT anyways? Right about to go to Magus' Castle, or something?

LOL I remember that.

Unfortunately, never been able to get into 6. I got up to the part where you're on the floating rock. For classic FF, I prefer 4.

A lot of the best of FFVI happens in the World of Ruin, which is immediately after the Floating Continent.

This. I don't think I hated a villain more than kefka...hate in a good way. omg i want to play this game again now.

[Algo Fonix]

All this talk about VI makes me wanna pop it in the snes again...

[AcidLameLTE]

I got to the bit in 6 after that castle sinks under the sand and reappears else where (not long after Terra becomes an esper or something) . I, apparently, had to have a particular character in my party to progress in the story but I didn't and I couldn't figure how to remedy this so I just started the game again. Just doing the third scenario after they all get split up on the raft at the moment.

[Ultimetalhead]

How far were you in CT anyways? Right about to go to Magus' Castle, or something?

I know I was in some floating city.

[ehra]

How far were you in CT anyways? Right about to go to Magus' Castle, or something?

I know I was in some floating city.

That's the best part of the game 

[NecessaryPain]

It's not very easy playing these old games anymore. Especially considering the fact that we are spoilt for choice these days, with realistic graphics and gameplay.

The old FF's, and many other old gems feel dated. Great games they will always be, but dated nonetheless.

FFVII was the benchmark. Not only was it arguably the most revolutionary storyline-driven video game of all time (yes, the storyline is extremely technical for its kind, much more so than VI and CT) - it was one of the first games to effectively use FMV, which became huge.

Nostalgia always plays its part when people start debating. I find that VII was just more consistant, more engaging and a damn sight more interesting then the FF's that followed. And i'm a big fan of VIII and IX.

FFVII, for me, is probably the greatest game of all time.

[Genowyn]

How far were you in CT anyways? Right about to go to Magus' Castle, or something?

I know I was in some floating city.

Right, I remember, you were completely lost in Zeal and I pretty much had to hold your hand through it 

[Rina]

How far were you in CT anyways? Right about to go to Magus' Castle, or something?

LOL I remember that.

Unfortunately, never been able to get into 6. I got up to the part where you're on the floating rock. For classic FF, I prefer 4.

A lot of the best of FFVI happens in the World of Ruin, which is immediately after the Floating Continent.

This. I don't think I hated a villain more than kefka...hate in a good way. omg i want to play this game again now.

Terra is awesome, but Kefka was annoying the hell out of me in Dissidia.

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

Kefka > any villain in any game.

[NecessaryPain]

Kefka > any villain in any game.

Nah.

Sephiroth is better.

Far more interesting.

Kefka was just a madman.

[Genowyn]

Wah wah I think some alien is my mommy, let's throw a big rock at the world

[Perpetual Change]

C'mon. He was still like the first Freudian RPG villian.

[Rina]

Sephiroth is better imo, but I need to sit down and play the game to really judge Kefka. He's just annoying in Dissidia. 

But then you have villains likes Seymour...

[AcidLameLTE]

Sephiroth wasn't that great. He didn't really achieve much, to be honest.

[j]

lol Sephiroth.

He was cool at first, like during Cloud's flashback in that one town near the beginning.

But totally lame after that.  Showing up in random places as a ghost, just to say cryptic shit and not actually do anything?  And that's all he did 'til the end of the game.

-J

[NecessaryPain]

lol Sephiroth.

He was cool at first, like during Cloud's flashback in that one town near the beginning.

But totally lame after that.  Showing up in random places as a ghost, just to say cryptic shit and not actually do anything?  And that's all he did 'til the end of the game.

-J

Nah he had a proper agenda at one point. He was trying to find himself.

I love how he completely lost his mind afterwards.

The way the game takes you back and then into the present was brilliant, IMO.

[ehra]

It's a pretty common story telling device. It was used well (easily the most powerful section(s) of the game), but it's not like it's some innovative form of plot device that Square made up for FF7 

As far as FF7 villains go, I found Rufus and Hojo to be far more interesting than Sephiroth. "I was a good guy but now I've decided I'm a God and I'm going to kill everyone for no particularly clear reason" just doesn't have much pull.