Did I miss something?
I thought it was me, but I'm already on the watchlist, so I guess I'm in the clear...
I doubt you can point to any objective evidence to support that, and studies churned out by left wing think tanks don't count. But even if it was true, it's like a legal defense that points the finger at the worse behavior of other criminals. The fact that Fox sucks more than MSNBC doesn't make the latter a reliable news source.
Considering nothing short of a
right wing think tank saying it will make you happy, I'm not even gonna bother with this one...
Except that this isn't a thread about how great CNN and MSNBC are. It's a thread about how crappy FOX is. Others are making the point that "yeah, well, everybody else does it!"
Even so, I've never noticed anyone else do it as consistently Fox.
Okay, so I will bite. This is the first thing that came up when I googled "media bias":
Rank
News Outlet
ADA
Score
1
Newshour with Jim Lehrer
55.8
2
CNN NewsNight with Aaron Brown
56.0
3
ABC Good Morning America
56.1
4
Drudge Report
60.4
5
Fox News' Special Report with Brit Hume
39.7
6
ABC World News Tonight
61.0
7
NBC Nightly News
61.6
8
USA Today
63.4
9
NBC Today Show
64.0
10
Washington Times
35.4
11
Time Magazine
65.4
12
U.S. News and World Report
65.8
13
NPR Morning Edition
66.3
14
Newsweek
66.3
15
CBS Early Show
66.6
16
Washington Post
66.6
17
LA Times
70.0
18
CBS Evening News
73.7
19
New York Times
73.7
20
Wall Street Journal
85.1
https://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/polisci/faculty/groseclose/Media.Bias.8.htmSo, according to research done here, Fox sucks, the Drudge report is about as bad as the other media outlets (which are, in turn, slightly better than Fox), NPR gets undue shit for being a liberal breeding den, and the New York Times and Journal are somewhat respectable news sources. Again, as I told someone who PM'd me about this, I have no doubt that MSNBC's
pundits are as bad as Fox's. The editorial side of things, imo, is about the same. But Fox's bias seems to leak into its actual news coverage more often than the others.
Anyway, I realize all this research is like ten years old. Some things have no-doubt changed. I wonder how the Drudge report would rank up these days, since creating conspiracy theories to pin on Obama had become its main agenda apparently
A friend here at University studies just that specific topic, so I'll ask her for something more up-to-date today or tomorrow. But, from all I looked at, most of the research done that supports "conventional" wisdom-- that Fox is bad, that the New York Times is relatively good, and than the other networks are bad but still better than Fox-- is actually the quantitative, serious stuff. I saw some other "research" about the liberal side of things being more biased, but that was usually the less quantitative type with titles like, "The Liberal Media Bias Exposed!".
I suspect, at the end of the day, Bill O'Reilly is right about the whole "center-right" country thing. We
are still a center-right country. Because of that, a right of center bias seems to work for a lot of us, as it caters to our traditional upbringing. I remember growing up, when I decided to turn on Fox News for the first time... It was the first time I'd ever wanted to go out of my way to watch news for some reason, and boy did it feel like stepping into a pair of shoes that were just my size.
I so hate being conservative at times when it just seems like 90% of the conservatives who open their mouths are insane morons.
I don't get it either. Everyone keeps saying that I'm being biased for thinking Fox is the worst cable network. They're forgetting, or still don't know, that there's at least 2- maybe 3- people on the RNC stage right now who I think could do a better job running the country than Obama. I'm not conservative at all really, but I'm willing to hear both sides. With conservatives, it's like if you don't agree with every point you're just another blind liberal.