DT's New Drummer (merged thread)

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Nihil-Morari

Nope, they would audition for a week. But that was already 2 weeks ago, I believe.

I guess they'll announce once they have more to announce. Like going into the studio, a couple of one off shows with the new drummer, at least I think.

Bertielee

Quote from: SystematicThought on October 25, 2010, 10:14:10 PM
I think Lang actually lives in LA.

Plus, tbh, I don't see another body builder in the band. Just imagine it, a muscle contest between JP and TL?!?!? The earth would melt for sheer power! Arrrgghhh! Run for cover! Quick! :biggrin:

B.Lee

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I think JP would win.  That guy is a rock.

Here's a hypothetical: JP versus Russell Allen?

phentalmyst

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Quote from: Nihil-Morari on October 26, 2010, 07:50:49 AM
Nope, they would audition for a week. But that was already 2 weeks ago, I believe.


according to JLB's twitter, they started auditions last monday.

Nihil-Morari

Quote from: phentalmyst on October 26, 2010, 08:15:49 AM
Quote from: Nihil-Morari on October 26, 2010, 07:50:49 AM
Nope, they would audition for a week. But that was already 2 weeks ago, I believe.


according to JBL's twitter, they started auditions last monday.

I haven't seen that message. Was that really last monday? Cause I really believe Jordan tweeted the same about 3 weeks ago.

phentalmyst

yup. i think JR was just saying they have everything set and wasn't meaning they had started.

      Hey Everyone, We begin auditions today. Should be a day of mixed emotions, but at the same time exciting and spirited. Stay tuned, James. 11:04 AM Oct 18th via web

phentalmyst

this is all i saw on JR's twitter referring to when:

Dream Theater will be having closed/private auditions for our new drummer this month. We will let u all know the moment we make a decision!     11:35 AM Oct 7th  via Echofon 

Algo Fonix

From  :yarr 's twitter
QuoteAll will be revealed when the time is right and all conceivable aspects have been considered. Patience my friends. James... :-))))

Woo.  I normally have a ton of patience, but damn, I'm pretty antsy to find out who they've picked, or if they've already picked.

robwebster

I'd figure that they've probably whittled it down but are working out the logistics, judging by the "all conceivable aspects" bit.

At least that's how I read it.

Algo Fonix


Zydar

You know something we don't?

Ħ

Quote from: Algo Fonix on October 26, 2010, 09:34:01 AM
From  :yarr 's twitter
QuoteAll will be revealed when the time is right and all conceivable aspects have been considered. Patience my friends. James... :-))))

Woo.  I normally have a ton of patience, but damn, I'm pretty antsy to find out who they've picked, or if they've already picked.

:caffeine:

Odysseus

Quote from: BrotherH on October 26, 2010, 10:37:21 AM
Quote from: Algo Fonix on October 26, 2010, 09:34:01 AM
From  :yarr 's twitter
QuoteAll will be revealed when the time is right and all conceivable aspects have been considered. Patience my friends. James... :-))))

Woo.  I normally have a ton of patience, but damn, I'm pretty antsy to find out who they've picked, or if they've already picked.

:caffeine:


Yup... that pretty much sums it up for me too.... :corn

skydivingninja


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Loser1


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Not AFAIK.  We know that they've had auditions for the past week or so, and that Terry Bozzio being the new drummer is a very likely false rumor, and that's about it.
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The first person that came to my mind about who could replace Portnoy was Terry Bozzio. For those who bash TB clearly have no idea of the caliber of a musician he is. He could easily fill Portnoy's shoes in terms of technical ability. 

ariich


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bosk1

Quote from: Loser1 on October 26, 2010, 01:57:08 PMThe first person that came to my mind about who could replace Portnoy was Terry Bozzio. For those who bash TB clearly have no idea of the caliber of a musician he is. He could easily fill Portnoy's shoes in terms of technical ability. 

No one said he doesn't have the technical ability to fill MP's shoes.  That isn't the issue.

Loser1

Quote from: bösk1 on October 26, 2010, 02:06:30 PM
Quote from: Loser1 on October 26, 2010, 01:57:08 PMThe first person that came to my mind about who could replace Portnoy was Terry Bozzio. For those who bash TB clearly have no idea of the caliber of a musician he is. He could easily fill Portnoy's shoes in terms of technical ability. 

No one said he doesn't have the technical ability to fill MP's shoes.  That isn't the issue.

Got ya. I haven't read through the whole thread. What is the issue with TB?

bosk1

I think people just said (1) he's a lot older, and (2) his style is very different and just might now sound as good in DT.  But, really, I think that is just a couple of people.  This is a long thread, and I don't recall for certain, but I seem to recall a lot of very pro-Bozzio posts as well.  But for those who oppose, it is definitely more of a "fit/style" issue than an issue of technical ability.  Anyone who doesn't think he has the ability needs to have their head examined.

Loser1

Quote from: bösk1 on October 26, 2010, 02:10:28 PM
I think people just said (1) he's a lot older, and (2) his style is very different and just might now sound as good in DT.  But, really, I think that is just a couple of people.  This is a long thread, and I don't recall for certain, but I seem to recall a lot of very pro-Bozzio posts as well.  But for those who oppose, it is definitely more of a "fit/style" issue than an issue of technical ability.  Anyone who doesn't think he has the ability needs to have their head examined.

Ah, I see. I guess I can understand their concerns. Personally, I can't think of a better fit for DT. Like Portnoy, I think Bozzio can be a chameleon and pretty much fit any style he feels like. As for fit/style, I've seen him live, and he does have a great stage presence. Of course he is no Portnoy, but the guy does have great ability and stage presence. My fingers are crossed that he will be the man.

Adami

My main issue with Bozzio is that he would have to "fit" into DT. I think they'll find someone who naturally plays well with them, not someone who clearly can, but has to alter his playing style to.
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bosk1

To an extent, I think that's true of almost any drummer they could choose since, IMO, MP has a unique style of drumming and DT has a unique style of music.  I wouldn't really have a problem with Bozzio being in the band.  But I do sort of subjectively feel like it would feel like he was more of a hired gun and not truly a fully integrated member of the band.  I could be completely off base.  But I just feel like he would view DT as just another project and not as his full-time band, if that makes any sense.

Adami

Quote from: bösk1 on October 26, 2010, 02:32:21 PM
To an extent, I think that's true of almost any drummer they could choose since, IMO, MP has a unique style of drumming and DT has a unique style of music.  I wouldn't really have a problem with Bozzio being in the band.  But I do sort of subjectively feel like it would feel like he was more of a hired gun and not truly a fully integrated member of the band.  I could be completely off base.  But I just feel like he would view DT as just another project and not as his full-time band, if that makes any sense.

It does, and that's a problem with a lot of the big names around here.
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Setlist Scotty

Quote from: Adami on October 26, 2010, 02:34:59 PM
Quote from: bösk1 on October 26, 2010, 02:32:21 PM
To an extent, I think that's true of almost any drummer they could choose since, IMO, MP has a unique style of drumming and DT has a unique style of music.  I wouldn't really have a problem with Bozzio being in the band.  But I do sort of subjectively feel like it would feel like he was more of a hired gun and not truly a fully integrated member of the band.  I could be completely off base.  But I just feel like he would view DT as just another project and not as his full-time band, if that makes any sense.

It does, and that's a problem with a lot of the big names around here.

As much as they said they want to go on with a full fledged new drummer (and not just a drummer-for-hire), perhaps they are envisioning MP coming back after this album-tour cycle finishes. I think it's hard to say. I guess all said and done, no one will know for certain until another 1.5 or 2 years has gone by and we see how the new drummer is fitting in with DT, and how MP's doing with whatever primary project he's involved in.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

skydivingninja

Quote from: Loser1 on October 26, 2010, 01:57:08 PM


Not AFAIK.  We know that they've had auditions for the past week or so, and that Terry Bozzio being the new drummer is a very likely false rumor, and that's about it.
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The first person that came to my mind about who could replace Portnoy was Terry Bozzio. For those who bash TB clearly have no idea of the caliber of a musician he is. He could easily fill Portnoy's shoes in terms of technical ability. 
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I said that because there was a rumor going around that Bozzio was indeed the new drummer, and JLB said a few days ago that there's a reason rumors are called rumors.  Wasn't attacking his skills at all.

And I've said it before and I'll say it again: More respect will be lost on my end if this whole thing culminates with a "MP RETURNS TO DT" after a year or two.  If they're going to find someone to really replace MP, then they've really got to find the best replacement and forge on with the new drummer.  If MP wants back in, it was his choice to leave and he'll just have to live with it. 

Setlist Scotty

Quote from: skydivingninja on October 26, 2010, 04:16:22 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: More respect will be lost on my end if this whole thing culminates with a "MP RETURNS TO DT" after a year or two.  If they're going to find someone to really replace MP, then they've really got to find the best replacement and forge on with the new drummer.  If MP wants back in, it was his choice to leave and he'll just have to live with it. 

I understand. But let's also keep in mind that to find the correct person that fits all the criteria the guys no doubt have is an awfully difficult thing to do within a relatively short period of time. Look at how long it took for them to find the correct lead singer to replace Charlie! So they may decide after one album and tour cycle that things just aren't working out. At the same time, MP might be itching to play with the guys again. So if he rejoins them at that point (or even later on), can you blame any of them? Not a bit. The only way I think it would come off as very contrived is if MP rejoined them before this cycle (which will last a couple years) is complete.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

orcus116

I'd really love it if they found a guy that might actually encourage a change in their style. I can't think of anything more underwhelming than someone who can play Mike's parts but with a different kit.

MajorMatt

One thing I'd would like to see the new drummer carry through (if at all possible) is the custom kit for each tour, or even just custom kick drum heads related to the album they are touring.

Matt

Loser1

Quote from: Setlist Scotty on October 26, 2010, 05:09:23 PM
Quote from: skydivingninja on October 26, 2010, 04:16:22 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: More respect will be lost on my end if this whole thing culminates with a "MP RETURNS TO DT" after a year or two.  If they're going to find someone to really replace MP, then they've really got to find the best replacement and forge on with the new drummer.  If MP wants back in, it was his choice to leave and he'll just have to live with it. 

I understand. But let's also keep in mind that to find the correct person that fits all the criteria the guys no doubt have is an awfully difficult thing to do within a relatively short period of time. Look at how long it took for them to find the correct lead singer to replace Charlie! So they may decide after one album and tour cycle that things just aren't working out. At the same time, MP might be itching to play with the guys again. So if he rejoins them at that point (or even later on), can you blame any of them? Not a bit. The only way I think it would come off as very contrived is if MP rejoined them before this cycle (which will last a couple years) is complete.

I don't think this is part of some big plan as well. I don't see Portnoy coming back for at least a couple years. But I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see him re-join at some point. I am hoping it happens, regardless of who the new drummer is. I understand the mentality of "If you leave your out for good." And sometimes I feel the same way. But I'd love to see him return and would embrace it in a second. As for now, I want DT to succeed. Unlike many, I've enjoyed their recent material as much, even more, then their "old" stuff. I expect the unexpected from DT. Let's hope they don't disappoint!

Bozzio with DT? I wouldn't have even though it a couple months ago. Now, I think it could be great.

PS - Wasup Scotty! Long time no see!

STEVETHEATER

Pssst. You didn't get this from me. From a very reliable source.
These where 5 out of 7 who audition for DT. 3 days, all auditions where filmed for next DT album.

- Virgil Donati
- Peter Wildoer
- Mike Mangini
- Marco Minnemann
- Thomas Lang

AcidLameLTE

Marco Minnemann? Awesome. I always loved this video of him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHft4OR7Rus

SystematicThought

All auditions were filmed for the next DT album? What? This is cool though SteveTheater!!

Perpetual Change

I think it's pretty safe to say Charlie Z is one of the other names, too.