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« Reply #2205 on: January 06, 2023, 02:56:27 PM »
Can't say I care one bit about the impact of this on fantasy football, although I understand some people likely lost/won money due to the circumstances.

No offense to Gary, I get the point he was making (and it's valid) but as someone who is sick and tired of the gambling taking over pro football, I'm like "man plans and god laughs, you assholes".   The idea that anyone can reliably predict these games with any sense of regularity is yet another example of man's hubris, and if even one person realizes "wow, this really IS random" then the cosmos win.

After having my favorite talk radio station get dumped for a canned sports betting format, I'm all too happy to see massive monkey wrenches get thrown in the mix, though in this case, I think the bigger wrench was all the sports betting propositions going down in the Nov election.

Oh yeah, I think after the results came in, there was an article that stated the Indian Gaming Association in California wanted not only for the Online Sports Betting bills to not pass, they want a decisive No which they got.  Wasn't a pretty penny to spend on campaigning for it as well.  Costed about half a billion to campaigning it passing in California.  Didn't pass.  Oh well.   ;D
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« Reply #2206 on: January 06, 2023, 03:20:05 PM »
Teams ranked in order of who I think will win the SB:

Buffalo - great offense, great defense
Cincy - great offense, really good defense
SF - really good offense, BEST defense
KC - BEST offense, bad defense, bad special teams
Philly - really good on offense, good defense
Dallas - really good on O and D

It’s happened about 8 times since the merger and this year is the 2nd time for Mahomes, dragging a team to 13+ wins despite the D giving up 350+ points. NONE of those teams won the SB, it can’t be done. You can’t win a SB with a bad defense. This is a primary reason why PM will win MVP again, the others (Allen, Burrow, Hurts) all have good defenses behind them - but you can’t win the SB with a D that bad, it can’t be done.

How do you guys rank the contenders? I didn’t bother with all 14.

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« Reply #2207 on: January 06, 2023, 03:32:36 PM »
I agree that those are definitely the top 6, and mostly agree with your comments.  I would add "really good special teams" to SF.  Without looking at actual stats/rankings, I can't really comment on the other special teams units.  Will give some thought to ranking the top 6.
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« Reply #2208 on: January 06, 2023, 03:43:19 PM »
Can't say I care one bit about the impact of this on fantasy football, although I understand some people likely lost/won money due to the circumstances.

No offense to Gary, I get the point he was making (and it's valid) but as someone who is sick and tired of the gambling taking over pro football, I'm like "man plans and god laughs, you assholes".   The idea that anyone can reliably predict these games with any sense of regularity is yet another example of man's hubris, and if even one person realizes "wow, this really IS random" then the cosmos win.

After having my favorite talk radio station get dumped for a canned sports betting format, I'm all too happy to see massive monkey wrenches get thrown in the mix, though in this case, I think the bigger wrench was all the sports betting propositions going down in the Nov election.

Oh yeah, I think after the results came in, there was an article that stated the Indian Gaming Association in California wanted not only for the Online Sports Betting bills to not pass, they want a decisive No which they got.  Wasn't a pretty penny to spend on campaigning for it as well.  Costed about half a billion to campaigning it passing in California.  Didn't pass.  Oh well.   ;D

I definitely wasn't heartbroken about it. Bookies are a dime a dozen already, no need to institutionalize the process. Shit, last thing we need is for it to fuck up all the horse race betting venues. Love hitting those for the big races.

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« Reply #2209 on: January 06, 2023, 03:54:11 PM »
Yep, I thought Gary's point was clear as well.

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« Reply #2210 on: January 06, 2023, 05:18:55 PM »
There's been something kind of odd about the whole response to what happened on Monday night. Hamlin goes down, and while he is down, there's a resounding outcry online and in the media of, "how dare anyone even think about football when a man's life is on the line". Eventually, the coaches look at each other and say "no more football tonight" and everyone agrees with this. We spend the next 12 hours dragging Skip Bayless for saying what everyone is thinking in the back of their minds, "what now?". It's a rare instance of Skip Bayless being wrongly misinterpreted rather than being a complete clown. As a mob, we have decided it's inappropriate to talk about anything until Damar is okay. This makes sense, it feels right.

However, people can feel scared, be in mourning, and be interested in what is going to happen as a result of the game cancellation at the same time. Now, naturally, we are acknowledging the thoughts that have been going through people's minds since one minute after the ambulance left the field with Damar Hamlin in tow. This feels uncomfortable, because pretending we weren't thinking about this was what everyone was saying was "right".

Of course people care about playoff seeding. Of course they care about their fantasy leagues. Many people have probably not stopped thinking about these things since Monday night. Having these kind of thoughts doesn't mean someone doesn't care about Damar Hamlin. It's possible to care about all these things at the same time.

What I see is not so much genuine care for Damar as much as I see a demand for conformity to the symbolic gestures that some have determined are necessary to "demonstrate caring".

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« Reply #2211 on: January 06, 2023, 06:17:47 PM »
I agree. It's not even that Bayless said anything all that offensive. Oh, and fuck Shannon Sharpe.
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« Reply #2212 on: January 06, 2023, 07:14:57 PM »
Bayless is a liar, a troll and an asshole, so if he sees his career take a hit over something that maybe people took the wrong way, I am good with it.

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« Reply #2213 on: January 06, 2023, 07:23:12 PM »
Bayless is a liar, a troll and an asshole, so if he sees his career take a hit over something that maybe people took the wrong way, I am good with it.

I don't listen to or pay attention to anything he says. I did see the tweet he made that caused all the hubbub and didn't think there was anything to it.
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« Reply #2214 on: January 06, 2023, 07:30:18 PM »
Bayless is a liar, a troll and an asshole, so if he sees his career take a hit over something that maybe people took the wrong way, I am good with it.

I don't listen to or pay attention to anything he says. I did see the tweet he made that caused all the hubbub and didn't think there was anything to it.

I catch stuff on Twitter.  I still get a kick out of Shannon Sharpe and will occasionally watch the clips from their show on Twitter if Sharpe is talking (I shut off as soon as the troll gets his turn to talk).  I definitely think lesser of Sharpe for working with that liar for so long, although I am sure it's a good paycheck.

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« Reply #2215 on: January 06, 2023, 07:32:11 PM »
I don't watch Twitter. ;D
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« Reply #2216 on: January 06, 2023, 07:42:04 PM »
I don't watch Twitter. ;D

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« Reply #2217 on: January 06, 2023, 07:44:45 PM »
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« Reply #2218 on: January 06, 2023, 07:46:18 PM »
Meathead.  Lol
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« Reply #2220 on: January 06, 2023, 08:35:36 PM »
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« Reply #2221 on: January 06, 2023, 08:37:58 PM »
I don’t witch Twatter…

Is that the porn social media?
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« Reply #2222 on: January 06, 2023, 09:31:38 PM »
I don't watch Twitter. ;D

I don't either.  I have an account, but I only go on if there's something specific that someone mentions.  From what I can tell, it's mostly a cesspool of idiocy, and I have little tolerance for that.
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« Reply #2223 on: January 06, 2023, 10:11:58 PM »
I don't watch Twitter. ;D

I don't either.  I have an account, but I only go on if there's something specific that someone mentions.  From what I can tell, it's mostly a cesspool of idiocy, and I have little tolerance for that.

Eh, if you keep your feed curated it's pretty useful. I get most of my band announcements from it, especially the Japanese who use it heavily, and the few DTF knuckleheads I follow there are pretty entertaining.

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« Reply #2224 on: January 06, 2023, 10:36:58 PM »
I don't watch Twitter. ;D

I don't either.  I have an account, but I only go on if there's something specific that someone mentions.  From what I can tell, it's mostly a cesspool of idiocy, and I have little tolerance for that.

I'm shocked.  :lol
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« Reply #2225 on: January 07, 2023, 04:54:57 PM »
I don't watch Twitter. ;D

I don't either.  I have an account, but I only go on if there's something specific that someone mentions.  From what I can tell, it's mostly a cesspool of idiocy, and I have little tolerance for that.

Eh, if you keep your feed curated it's pretty useful. I get most of my band announcements from it, especially the Japanese who use it heavily, and the few DTF knuckleheads I follow there are pretty entertaining.

'pparently I need to learn to curate.    Mine sucks.  I get all these notices on my phone every morning of all this stuff I don't give a rat's ass about.

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« Reply #2226 on: January 07, 2023, 05:56:13 PM »
The Titans-Jags game could be a good one tonight with a playoff spot on the line.
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« Reply #2227 on: January 08, 2023, 11:11:31 AM »
Bills return the opening kickoff for a return.  What an amazing moment. I literally said, "wow," out loud to myself.

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« Reply #2228 on: January 08, 2023, 11:19:20 AM »
Bills return the opening kickoff for a return.  What an amazing moment. I literally said, "wow," out loud to myself.

Yup, just amazing.


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« Reply #2229 on: January 08, 2023, 11:53:41 AM »
Are they insane RJ? :lol
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« Reply #2230 on: January 08, 2023, 01:10:25 PM »
Patriots showing some very special special teams. :lol
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« Reply #2231 on: January 08, 2023, 01:12:21 PM »
Patriots showing some very special special teams. :lol

Their special teams have been brutal this year. No way their ST coach comes back.
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« Reply #2232 on: January 08, 2023, 01:51:40 PM »
Put Judge back as the Special Teams coach please.
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« Reply #2233 on: January 08, 2023, 01:53:36 PM »
Put Judge back as the Special Teams coach please.

I doubt it will happen.

I can't listen to Nantz and Romo. The whole Hamlin thing is being so overplayed. The Bills will win because they are 10 times better than the Pats. WTF??
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« Reply #2234 on: January 08, 2023, 02:11:30 PM »
Looks like the AFC seeding is now set.  Glad Cincy won so that takes the AFC North uncertainty from last week's game off the table.  Still a bit of a mess up at the top with the 1-3 seeds, but it is what it is, and I know Buffalo and Cincy accept it for what it is, so that's that. 
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« Reply #2235 on: January 08, 2023, 02:17:04 PM »
Put Judge back as the Special Teams coach please.
I was thinking that was the plan when they brought him back. It's not like Cam Achord was all that great as STC last year, either. The problem is that I'm not sure Judge would want the gig.

Honestly, ST aside it wasn't a bad game for NE. It was a respectable performance against the best team in the NFL.
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« Reply #2236 on: January 08, 2023, 02:18:43 PM »

Honestly, ST aside it wasn't a bad game for NE. It was a respectable performance against the best team in the NFL.

True.
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« Reply #2237 on: January 08, 2023, 02:33:21 PM »
Put Judge back as the Special Teams coach please.
I was thinking that was the plan when they brought him back. It's not like Cam Achord was all that great as STC last year, either. The problem is that I'm not sure Judge would want the gig.

Honestly, ST aside it wasn't a bad game for NE. It was a respectable performance against the best team in the NFL.

Agreed on this all.
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« Reply #2238 on: January 08, 2023, 02:54:48 PM »
Let's assume Philly and SF won both win this afternoon. 

Here is my prediction for which games are when next week.

Saturday late afternoon: Ravens at Bengals
Saturday night: Dolphins at Bills
Sunday early afternoon: Giants at Vikings
Sunday late afternoon: Seahawks/Lions/Packers at 49ers
Sunday evening: Cowboys at Bucs
Monday night: Chargers at Jags

Dallas/TB in one of the night games is a no-brainer.

While neither is a marquee franchise, Chargers/Jags works for Monday night with two of the best young QBs playing.

Bills and Bengals playing the same day makes the most sense, to keep it fair, that way if they both win and play the next week, neither has an extra days rest.

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« Reply #2239 on: January 08, 2023, 07:54:50 PM »
I’ve been dealing with a monumental amount of drama the last few days. Did the cancelled game end up making any difference? Or did the way things shaked out today make it a moot point?
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