2022 NFL Thread (Chiefs win Super Bowl 57)

[TAC]

Mac Jones ain't great but Zach Wilson is a disaster. That headband makes him look even more like a pussy.

[Skeever]

I'd rather have Russell Wilson

[TAC]

That ain't saying much.

[Skeever]

Nope but if this is how it's going to be I would not mind them putting out some serious draft capital for a veteran. The rookies on this team are way too good to be anchored to a failure.

[TheCountOfNYC]

It’s always the same.

[contest_sanity]

what an insane ending to falcons/panthers

falcons division leaders at 4-4 lmao

RISE UP

[cramx3]

I can't believe the guy took his helmet off and basically cost them the game after that hail Mary. 

[Skeever]

It’s always the same.

No way, even if we lose the next two games, which is likely, we are still going in to be a .500 team on Thanksgiving day. That's right, the worst case scenario for the Jets is going into December a team that is still in the Wild Card hunt. When is the last time we have known that as Jets fans? It has been a long time, at least since 2015. It's not the same, the clown car ever is officially over, even if the team totally collapses the building blocks for it an actual football organization have been set.

[lordxizor]

Another one score win for the Vikings. I'll give them credit for finding a way to win, but I still have no confidence in them going far in the playoffs.

[KevShmev]

Doofus McDaniels' Raiders get shut out by a Saints defense that had given up 132 points in their previous four games. 

[Cool Chris]

So is it true about the rumblings that Russell Wilson is a total diva? I heard that he has an office as a requirement of his contract?

Is he THAT much of a dick?

Don't know if he's a dick or not. Not my kind of guy, really, but that doesn't mean a whole lot.

I also wouldn't say he's a dick. His personal life coach and close friend died last year* and it appears that really altered his course.

*he went to school with a good friend of mine, who spoke very highly of him. I met him on a couple occasions; his father was also a life coach/motivational speaker who worked in my area. Once as a kid I went to a basketball camp he worked at.

[Stadler]

Funny thing is, the very qualities that are driving her away from him were probably the same ones that attracted her to him in the beginning and for many years after. Hell of a thing, eh?

And were quite possibly qualities she possessed, as well. Being a supermodel ain't easy.

She had to grow resentful because she gave up her career and he will not.

This is something that I feel like a lot of people are ignoring. She made more money as a supermodel than Tom ever made as a quarterback, and she gave it all up to raise their family, but he’s not willing to do the same for her.

Eh, I am on Brady's side there.  If she gave up her career, that was her choice.  She knew he was a football player when she met and married him, so expecting him to retire before he is ready is unfair, and the minute you start throwing out "retire or I'll divorce you" ultimatums, it's pretty much done anyway.

And honestly, at that level, I don't think it's about the money at all.  WE think it is, because we don't have it, but like Phil Simms said of Belichick - "It amazes me how much he loves the PROCESS, even after all these years.  He STILL LOVES the draft. He LOVES training camp.  He just loves FOOTBALL."   

[Stadler]

So is it true about the rumblings that Russell Wilson is a total diva? I heard that he has an office as a requirement of his contract?

Is he THAT much of a dick?

Don't know if he's a dick or not. Not my kind of guy, really, but that doesn't mean a whole lot. What's wrong with having an office, though? He should have an office, and I'd make the team pay for a secretary/personal assistant, too.

Phillip Rivers "demanded" an SUV equipped with satellite technology and a workspace in the back seat so he could watch film and study on his two-hour (whatever) drive to and from the stadium each day.

[Stadler]

Mac Jones ain't great but Zach Wilson is a disaster. That headband makes him look even more like a pussy.

Or Corey Feldman.  Oops, sorry, ninja'd by TAC.    : )


By the way, for all the celebrating about the "new Jets", if they lose to Buffalo - and they will - and Pats beat Indy - which they should - then they are tied in the division.   

[El Barto]

So is it true about the rumblings that Russell Wilson is a total diva? I heard that he has an office as a requirement of his contract?

Is he THAT much of a dick?

Don't know if he's a dick or not. Not my kind of guy, really, but that doesn't mean a whole lot. What's wrong with having an office, though? He should have an office, and I'd make the team pay for a secretary/personal assistant, too.

Phillip Rivers "demanded" an SUV equipped with satellite technology and a workspace in the back seat so he could watch film and study on his two-hour (whatever) drive to and from the stadium each day.

Perfectly reasonable. A new Cadillac for each game is frivolous. Something that makes you professional life easier to manage is a fine thing to ask for (and I'd happily give the guy a car with an office in the back). If you're negotiating a contract worth 100 million you can probably expect some perks to be flying about, I reckon.

I was reading a few weeks ago about a contentious contract negotiation with Leonard Nimoy between the first and second season of TOS. One of the "demands" was an office with a secretary. Didn't make a lot of sense at first, but it turns out the guy was getting 500 fan mail letters a week, and was spending a big chunk of time doing public appearances on behalf of the network. Suddenly it seemed quite reasonable (and the network was happy to provide it). That's what made me ask about RW. Given the number of appearances he's on the hook for, and that does benefit the team, it makes perfect sense.

[hefdaddy42]

That Panthers game was the most Panthers it could have been.  SMH

[Stadler]

That Panthers game was the most Panthers it could have been.  SMH

I loved the guy seemingly trying to put Moore's helmet back on (or at least keep him from taking it off).   I mean, not for a Carolina fan, but generally, that's hilarious.

[hefdaddy42]

That Panthers game was the most Panthers it could have been.  SMH

I loved the guy seemingly trying to put Moore's helmet back on (or at least keep him from taking it off).   I mean, not for a Carolina fan, but generally, that's hilarious.

Ruined an unbelievable pass from PJ Walker, too.

[SoundscapeMN]

Another one score win for the Vikings. I'll give them credit for finding a way to win, but I still have no confidence in them going far in the playoffs.

I'm with you, but I have a good friend whose a lifelong Bills fan and has wanted to see a Vikings vs Bills Super Bowl, so then finally 1 of them will have won a Title.

[Dream Team]

Sheesh, the Steelers just traded Claypool to the Bears. Sucks. Guy is a freakish talent but they couldn't get him the ball and now they have Pickens, so . . .

[bosk1]

Kev, can we do a top 25 NFL teams ranking thread sometime soon?

[hefdaddy42]

Kev, can we do a top 25 NFL teams ranking thread sometime soon?

[Architeuthis]

Sheesh, the Steelers just traded Claypool to the Bears. Sucks. Guy is a freakish talent but they couldn't get him the ball and now they have Pickens, so . . .

Well at least the Bears have a good bass player now.  🤪

[Dublagent66]

Trap game for the Eagirls tonight.  Well...not really. 

[bosk1]

No, not really at all.    Hope they lose, but I'm not seeing it.

[bosk1]

Looking forward to seeing how the '9ers play in their next 2 games after the bye.  I am tempted to overreact after the HUGE win over the Rams, added to the fact that they will have almost all of their injured starters back for the first time.  But even though all signs point in a positive direction, I don't want to prematurely overreact.  Those first two games should be a good indicator of where the season will go.  If they go well, I don't think it is overstating the case to predict them as division winners, probable #2 or #3 seed, and serious SB contender.  If not, their floor is probably a low wildcard spot and early out from the playoffs. 

[TAC]

Ray Guy RIP..

[pg1067]

Ray Guy RIP..

If you asked me to name 10 punters, he's the only one I would, with absolutely certainty, remember (and I'm not sure I could actually think of 10).  Absolute legend.

[DragonAttack]

A quick google of Super Bowl XI, that Oakland won over Minnesota 32-14, and which, of course

The Raiders took the opening kickoff and advanced all the way to the Vikings’ 12-yard line, but came up empty after kicker Errol Mann hit the left upright on his 29-yard field goal attempt. Later in the quarter, after the teams exchanged punts, the Vikings had a great opportunity to score, when linebacker Fred McNeill blocked a punt from Ray Guy and recovered the ball on the Raiders' 3-yard line. The Vikings' special teams unit was known for blocking kicks, but this was the first time it had happened to Guy. (He had only three of his punts blocked in his 14-year Pro Football Hall of Fame career.) However, two plays later, Minnesota running back Brent McClanahan fumbled the ball while being tackled by Raiders linebacker Phil Villapiano, and linebacker Willie Hall recovered the ball for Oakland.[10] The Raiders then marched 90 yards to the Vikings' 7-yard line, with a 35-yard run by Clarence Davis around left end from the Oakland 6-yard line breaking through Minnesota's front. On the drive's sixth play, quarterback Ken Stabler completed a 25-yard pass to tight end Dave Casper, with Casper breaking through what Stabler called "10 tackles."[7]

and

Although Guy rarely kicked for distance, his punts often left opposing offenses pinned deep in their own end of the field. The statistic for hang time was instituted in the NFL during his career, reportedly because of him.[12] Pro Football Hall of Fame historian Joe Horrigan once said of Guy, "He's the first punter you could look at and say: 'He won games.'"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Guy

and...

During the early part of his career, he was the Raiders' emergency QB, replacing kicker–quarterback George Blanda in this position.[16] He also occasionally did kickoffs for the Raiders because the aging Blanda no longer had great range.

The form this man had!!! 

I punted my freshman year of HS, would have my sophomore year except for a broken bone a week before opening week....   and this 'guy' became one of my most admired pros when I could not continue on my junior year.  So gol damn envious of his talents. 

I also believe they changed the rules on kick coverage during his career, due to the length and height of his kicks.

Well deserved HOF induction.

 

[TheCountOfNYC]

It’s always the same.

No way, even if we lose the next two games, which is likely, we are still going in to be a .500 team on Thanksgiving day. That's right, the worst case scenario for the Jets is going into December a team that is still in the Wild Card hunt. When is the last time we have known that as Jets fans? It has been a long time, at least since 2015. It's not the same, the clown car ever is officially over, even if the team totally collapses the building blocks for it an actual football organization have been set.

I was more referencing their performance against the Patriots. No matter what the two teams’ records are, the Patriots have the Jets number. The first two years with Rex Ryan was the only time that the teams felt even. The Jets are better this year than they have been in the last ten years, but it just seems like they’ll never get the better of the Pats, although in three weeks maybe I’ll change my tune. For now though, we just have a beating at the hands of the Bills to look forward to.

[pg1067]

A quick google of Super Bowl XI....

Gotta love Wikipedia.  The statement that "The statistic for hang time was instituted in the NFL during his career, reportedly because of him" is supported by a citation to this article:  https://southernmiss.com/news/2022/11/3/football-southern-miss-mourns-the-passing-of-golden-eagle-great-ray-guy.aspx .  That article's only reference to "hang time" is that Guy's "majestic punts helped coin the phrase 'hang time.'"  I did some googling and found nothing to support either the assertion in the Wikipedia article or the article cited by Wikipedia.  Also, as far as I can tell, hang time isn't an official NFL statistic:  https://www.nfl.com/stats/player-stats/category/punts/2022/reg/all/puntingaverageyards/desc .  Last, during the time he played, he was among the all-time leaders in punting average and routinely punted 50+ yards.  It was his combination of distance and hang time that made him lethal, and the dude was a true weapon.

Also...

kicker Errol Mann hit the left upright on his 29-yard field goal attempt.

It's funny to remember how tenuous kicks that are now considered gimmes used to be.  Scott Norwood was shamed out of the league for missing a 47-yard kick, which even now isn't a gimme.  Back in the mid-70s, anything more than 25 yards was iffy.

[DragonAttack]

A quick google of Super Bowl XI....

Gotta love Wikipedia.  The statement that "The statistic for hang time was instituted in the NFL during his career, reportedly because of him" is supported by a citation to this article:  https://southernmiss.com/news/2022/11/3/football-southern-miss-mourns-the-passing-of-golden-eagle-great-ray-guy.aspx .  That article's only reference to "hang time" is that Guy's "majestic punts helped coin the phrase 'hang time.'"  I did some googling and found nothing to support either the assertion in the Wikipedia article or the article cited by Wikipedia.  Also, as far as I can tell, hang time isn't an official NFL statistic:  https://www.nfl.com/stats/player-stats/category/punts/2022/reg/all/puntingaverageyards/desc .  Last, during the time he played, he was among the all-time leaders in punting average and routinely punted 50+ yards.  It was his combination of distance and hang time that made him lethal, and the dude was a true weapon.

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Maybe they erred, I can agree on that.

But....  for those that weren't around at that time....  his form and the results were, can we say, ...'majestic'.  He had 'it'.

[lordxizor]

Another one score win for the Vikings. I'll give them credit for finding a way to win, but I still have no confidence in them going far in the playoffs.

I'm with you, but I have a good friend whose a lifelong Bills fan and has wanted to see a Vikings vs Bills Super Bowl, so then finally 1 of them will have won a Title.

It would be the Bills and then us Vikings fans would have no one to commiserate with. 

[KevShmev]

Tonight is a good example of why the game being on Prime is annoying.

The Blues are on.

The World Series is on.

Even though the football game is a meh one, I'd like to check it out here and there...but I can't just flip to the stupid Prime for 30 seconds and flip back. 

Thus, I am not watching any of the football game.

[King Postwhore]

Tonight is a good example of why the game being on Prime is annoying.

The Blues are on.

The World Series is on.

Even though the football game is a meh one, I'd like to check it out here and there...but I can't just flip to the stupid Prime for 30 seconds and flip back. 

Thus, I am not watching any of the football game.

This is 💯