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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1260 on: November 02, 2018, 03:28:11 PM »
:lolpalm: @ the Avantasia descriptor.  Ev and I should've gotten that one!

I was <this> close to sending The Scarecrow from The Flying Opera as an Avantasia submission, but chose the Learning To Live-esque Shadow of the Lake instead.

Yeah, goddamn it, I should've gotten Avantasia for sure.

I was that close to sending some Avantasia and then just on a whim decided on PoS because I love this song.
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1261 on: November 02, 2018, 06:07:30 PM »
Chad: 2 (or 3 with the swap) on 10

.300 gets most people into that Hall of Fame.  I'll take it.
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1262 on: November 02, 2018, 06:27:04 PM »
Ostura / Duality - This is how DT would sound if Kevin never left and Mike fulfilled his Russell Allen fantasy in 2002

Definitely. So glad Russell Allen stayed as far away from DT as possible.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1263 on: November 04, 2018, 03:15:39 PM »
Good evening, bedlam.

The most important week-end of the year at "work" is spectacularly over, and I can finally focus on important internet things. Funny story: after an excellent test audience debut I had roughly 60 people extremely worried for their future in the bus, watching their director intensely taking notes with ear-buds on. They will never know it was this round and not their work I was judging. Well, the wife knows, but she's an even worse cunt than yours truly and won't tell anybody.

Speaking of virdicts, having established that 7 is "I'm not touching myself yet, but I'm not forgetting this in 20 years", there is not one single submission I'm ranking BELOW that mark. 50% of your songs are from the right kind of left field, 50% just couldn't exist without Dream Theater. In fact, if I had the time to give you timestamp snippets, some songs would have featured 37 DT riffs, not mentioning Stadler's usual staple Beatles' quote (but I've already taken care of that in the bus impressions).

Apologising for these last days' scarce updates, I'm pretty confident results will be up around tomorrow night.

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1264 on: November 04, 2018, 03:23:22 PM »
Glad you're alive and things went well.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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« Reply #1265 on: November 04, 2018, 03:25:59 PM »
Things went well indeed, I have to check whether I'm actually still alive  :D

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« Reply #1266 on: November 04, 2018, 03:31:16 PM »
See the post something funny thread. Lol
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« Reply #1267 on: November 04, 2018, 03:40:14 PM »
I'm still giggling like a moron, man.  :lol

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1268 on: November 04, 2018, 03:42:24 PM »
Funny story: after an excellent test audience debut I had roughly 60 people extremely worried for their future in the bus, watching their director intensely taking notes with ear-buds on.

That's funny. Suckahs!
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1269 on: November 04, 2018, 04:19:05 PM »
Funny story: after an excellent test audience debut I had roughly 60 people extremely worried for their future in the bus, watching their director intensely taking notes with ear-buds on.

That's funny. Suckahs!

Absolutely hilarious  :lol

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« Reply #1270 on: November 05, 2018, 04:52:15 AM »
Good morning, bedlam.

Very strange round to rank, with very distinct groupings. I had to slightly warp my usual voting style (not the meter) in order to fairly assess the various enjoyments (I feel finally everybody's got a hang on my tastes), thus there's a lot of ex-aequoing going on.

Let me tease/spoil you fine patient people. There will be:

Four 7s
Two 7.5s
Three 8.0s
Four 8.5s
Two 9.0s
One 9.5

KIND REQUEST: I know you are itching to send the "Hate Round" turds as soon as writeups are on, but please appeal to your sense of honour and send me something you can comfortably go on the record saying YOU like, with a straight face.

Thank you.

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1271 on: November 05, 2018, 05:55:46 AM »
Four 7s
Two 7.5s
One of these again perhaps, unless I can somehow break that elusive 8.0 mark.

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KIND REQUEST: I know you are itching to send the "Hate Round" turds as soon as writeups are on, but please appeal to your sense of honour and send me something you can comfortably go on the record saying YOU like, with a straight face.
Of course, as that's what the round is. In my second roulette (when I did songs) I did a round of simply "send me something terrible" but you've been very clear that it should be something that WE like but think YOU will hate.

I haven't thought too much about it yet but I might even try and find something I love, or at least from an album I love, rather than merely like. But no promises.

If you think it's approrpriate, we could try and self-police/peer review a little, once the submissions are done and hangman completed. As in, if something sticks out as "Wait, that person actually likes that song?", we could challenge them.

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1272 on: November 05, 2018, 06:29:36 AM »
If you think it's approrpriate, we could try and self-police/peer review a little, once the submissions are done and hangman completed. As in, if something sticks out as "Wait, that person actually likes that song?", we could challenge them.

I suspect that's exactly what's going to happen, whether I find it appropriate or not  :D

In fact, I'm counting on that. You all have played countless roulettes together, and know each others' tastes far better than I do, therefore I doubt something fishy could escape the collective control.

Plus, there's potential for great bickering with me smugly pop-corning on the sidelines with glee  :corn

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1273 on: November 05, 2018, 07:01:01 AM »
If you think it's appropriate, we could try and self-police/peer review a little, once the submissions are done and hangman completed. As in, if something sticks out as "Wait, that person actually likes that song?", we could challenge them.

Well, that would never work for me and Parama - cuz that's prolly EXACTLY what we'd think of each others' songs!   :lol
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1274 on: November 05, 2018, 07:21:55 AM »
If you think it's appropriate, we could try and self-police/peer review a little, once the submissions are done and hangman completed. As in, if something sticks out as "Wait, that person actually likes that song?", we could challenge them.

Well, that would never work for me and Parama - cuz that's prolly EXACTLY what we'd think of each others' songs!   :lol
Well, Alex has correctly interpreted, I meant in relation to what we know about each other's tastes. :lol

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1275 on: November 05, 2018, 07:26:19 AM »
Glad you're alive and things went well.

Things may have went well. But I wouldn't call that living.
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« Reply #1276 on: November 05, 2018, 07:43:57 AM »
How would you call it, bro?

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« Reply #1277 on: November 05, 2018, 08:17:04 AM »
If you think it's appropriate, we could try and self-police/peer review a little, once the submissions are done and hangman completed. As in, if something sticks out as "Wait, that person actually likes that song?", we could challenge them.

Well, that would never work for me and Parama - cuz that's prolly EXACTLY what we'd think of each others' songs!   :lol

In fact, without even hearing it, I'm probably able to say that about Parama's song right now.  "Bro, you've listened to that - of your own volition - more than once?   GFTFO.".    :)

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1278 on: November 05, 2018, 08:41:36 AM »
i sent my trash round song a week or so ago and indiscipline had this to say about it:

:omg: Mother of God ...

i'm already on record as liking it considering i have the album rated as 4.5 out of 5 on RYM, anyways, so good luck challenging it  :corn

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1279 on: November 05, 2018, 11:25:20 AM »
I'm already loving next round.

Plus, I feel like banning the following acts for shattering my personal dislike scale without providing at least a funny element of surprise:

Radiohead, Pantera, Coldplay, Slayer

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1280 on: November 05, 2018, 11:49:22 AM »
meh, bleh, meh, kill it with fire

My thoughts on the above

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1281 on: November 05, 2018, 11:59:41 AM »
Solid, decent, OK I guess, lol

My thoughts on the above

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1282 on: November 05, 2018, 12:07:29 PM »
I don't really know what to send honestly. In any other roulette where this was a thing, I'd send a Mr. Bungle song (ad I know exactly which one), but it turns out Indiscipline loves that sort of stuff. I also don't want to be predictable and send a full-on growly track that Indy wouldn't appreciate.
Hey dude slow the fuck down so we can finish together at the same time.  :biggrin:
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« Reply #1283 on: November 05, 2018, 12:15:46 PM »
that Indy wouldn't appreciate.
Isn't that rather the point of the round?

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1284 on: November 05, 2018, 12:17:14 PM »
I'll prob send something electronic or punk.

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« Reply #1285 on: November 05, 2018, 12:17:16 PM »
Well, yeah, but if everybody's sending growls it kind of defeats the purpose, right?
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1286 on: November 05, 2018, 12:20:21 PM »
TAC had a growly round and then started sending death metal to everyone in roulettes

Maybe we can break Indiscipline too  :corn

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1287 on: November 05, 2018, 12:29:55 PM »
In a battle with Ivan Drago (growls), Indiscipline is Rocky; TAC is Apollo.
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« Reply #1288 on: November 05, 2018, 12:46:03 PM »
I'm already loving next round.

Plus, I feel like banning the following acts for shattering my personal dislike scale without providing at least a funny element of surprise:

Radiohead, Pantera, Coldplay, Slayer

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Take out "Coldplay" and I'm right there with you, 200%.

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1289 on: November 05, 2018, 01:06:59 PM »
TAC had a growly round and then started sending death metal to everyone in roulettes

I know, right! :lol

It wasn't so much the Growlie Round, but I really appreciated you guys doing my roulette, what with me not knowing any of you. But I wanted to show my appreciation by joining you guys' roulettes. It's really led me on quite a journey, and I haven't sent anything that I personally haven't been comfortable with. Plus, I've actually done pretty well too! ;D
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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« Reply #1290 on: November 05, 2018, 02:15:27 PM »
Tank round sent.  I'm very interested to see what Indiscipline thinks of it.   :corn :corn :corn
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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. Tough Weekend
« Reply #1291 on: November 05, 2018, 02:37:27 PM »
Tank round sent as well, this is gonna be fun...

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« Reply #1292 on: November 05, 2018, 05:01:55 PM »
Why not rationing the news while you send me ear poison?

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Round 4 Results, 1 of 5:


:scio: Evermind - Cockroach Sympathizers:

Pain of Salvation – Iter Impius:

Bus Impression: “That way of singing is as authentic as Pamela Anderson's floaters”

As far as sheer songwriting is concerned, this puppy should be right up my doghouse. Constructed like many quintessential show-stopping musical theatre male stool ballads, elegantly orchestrated, with a steady but smooth crescendo as dramatic as they come. We're talking about a 10 so far, now let's talk about what makes up the 4 bringing the average down. I swear (and I'm sorry if I read offensive), I can't stand the vocals. From languid soft to passionate angry, they're everything I would define as utterly phoney. I can't hear a speck of emotion in the actual (weak) sound, everything is on mannerism. Plus, the middle vocal melody is quite, ehm, ugly, really.  I've always stayed away from this act due to some sort of generational distrust, and maybe my instincts weren't so wrong. I'm not surprised the singer is the same fellow who annoyed me to death with his continous diva poses while playing background utility parts in the Live Whirlwind DVD.

Vote: 7.0 – Please, someone make Drew Sarich sing this.


TAC - The aTACkers:

Lost Horizon – Highlander:

Bus Impression: “An attempt to cram Manowar's discography inside a single song”

I have two guilty pleasures in life: Manowar and Sacher Torte, and they both must adhere to a strict formula in order to be successful: no shame over the top all out all the time bordering on ridicule (offensive epicness and overwhelming chocolate/orange jam, respectively). Anything but that and they're just ok pleasures, no middle ground. Speaking of this song, a lot of yummy ingredients are there: the heroic vocal melodies, the hooks, a steam powered cyborg drummer we can compare to the great (underrated) Scott Columbus. Alas, the chef was a bit shy. The guitar is underused (the beautiful hint of outro makes you wonder where the guy's been the 10 minutes before), the keyboards are childish and sound like a toy, and the focking “hey” that should bring the house down is wimpy, almost self-conscious. Plus, if even the great Eric Adams needs double-triple tracking to brig the point across, who does this (very gifted) guy think he is to never resort to backing vocals?

Vote: 7.0 – All man play on 10, below that you get just an enjoyable ok demo.


:ariich: ariich – Sexin'-You-Laters:

Von Hertzen Brothers – Angel's Eyes:

Bus Impression: “Julian plays dice while Victoria nad Edward get naughty: the elaboration”

Songwriting-wise, this is a nice compact little beauty, made both interesting and flawed by a strange underlying tension between straightforwardness (is it a word?) and confusion. I'm a real sucker for arabian scale based riffing, and this one delivers its goods, BUT it's not terribly original. The chorus hook is solid, BUT vocals suffer from a certain lack of personality.  There is a constant droning buzz messing the verse up, BUT it works like a charm during the potent instrumental interlude. The guitar solo's tone before the final chorus is bloody painful, BUT it redeems itself with that beautiful baroquish super-arpeggio section. A lot of BUTS, both positive and negative. Call me a musical pervert, but I can't shake the feeling this entire tune would fit gorgeously in the middle of Home, replacing the hideous dicing & moaning notorious lazy waste of time segment. I haven't checked and may be wrong, but my ear suspects it's even in the same key.

Vote: 7.0 – You were almost there with the classy jazzy path you had taken.


:shadowninja: Shadow Ninja 2.0 - Wayward Vagabonds:

Avantasia – Another Angel Down:

Bus Impression: “The criminally unappreciated Wild Ranger would ask: is this generic heavy metal?”

Funny piece, composed with undeniable craftmanship and mastery of the genre's Xs and Os. Musically speaking, everything is pleasing and everything is incredibly formulaic. For example, you can find the same exact main riff in every post-reunion Maiden album (I would quote titles if I were willing to deal with post-reunion Maiden albums), while the main chorus is simply fun 80's vanilla metal's common denominator. I promise I've heard a slight variation of that “We Rock The Ball” in at least a score of my brother's records, and I could listen to those only when the ogre was absent, risking my own incolumity. Nice double guitar solos, so nice I'm mildly disappointed by the lack of a glorious harmonised section. The singers turn this tune from not bad to somewhat memorable. They're perfect for the style, milk every last drop from their lines, and show an exciting competitive edge reminding me of Larry and 'Nique lighting up the Eastern Playoffs in the mid '80's. I feel I have to mention my sister could have written the lyrics at 14.

Vote: 7.0 - We need a poll


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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. The Magnificent 7s
« Reply #1293 on: November 05, 2018, 05:05:14 PM »
 :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: Indiscipline's Roulette: The Encino Man - v. The Magnificent 7s
« Reply #1294 on: November 05, 2018, 05:11:00 PM »
Those are for the post-reunion Maiden diss, right?