So, if Scott Norwood makes that FG against the Giants, Jim Kelly suddenly becomes a winner. I love that kind of thinking.
Didn't at all say that. He had three other opportunities that he didn't capitalize on. But he's absolutely not one until at least one of them goes through.
Look, personally, I believe you are not a "winner" - or "elite", I'll say it. it's not like it's Volde... STOP IT! - at a MINIMUM until you win the big prize. It doesn't work the other way, which is why Kev missed it, since winning the big prize doesn't make you a winner or elite, but it's the cover charge at the door to get into that club. Dan Marino is a prime example. Great skills, great numbers, but I can remember watching him and saying to my dad "Why does he always yell at his teammates when they're losing?" Did you see Tom Brady yell at ANYONE when it was 28-3? One of the things I loved most about that Super Bowl was me standing up with my hands on my head wondering how it could be so bad, my daughter checked out, disappointed in her TB jersey and ready to cry, and you look at Bill and Tom, and it was the exact same facial expression as you see during a pre-season game. Business as usual. Why? BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW TO WIN. Jimmy Johnson (and the hair!) same thing. Lou the Guy From Alabama, same thing. You have these maniacs that THINK they know how to win - I'm putting Jim Harbaugh here - but flake when the rock actually hits the hard surface, and that tells me they don't know how to win.
I think Trent Dilfer - or it might have been Steve Young, but it was that show - said that "Cam Newton doesn't know what he doesn't know, so he will never be a winner. He doesn't know what he needs to work on, and part of that is his demeanor and his temperament". And this was BEFORE they collapsed like a house made of Hoyle against the undermatched, inferior (talent-wise), but far better coached and far more mature Broncos.