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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4270 on: December 28, 2015, 02:26:47 AM »
She's listening to the forbidden music. What a rebel!
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4271 on: December 28, 2015, 02:27:45 AM »
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Is she wearing headphones? Interesting.

That's what I noted, it's weird because it somehow brought me back to this sci-fi world.
Maybe it represents a contrast to the huge NOMAC's?
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4272 on: December 28, 2015, 03:38:24 AM »
So the GNE overtakes the RRM with the reveal of Faythe, 4-3 with one to reveal. Clock Person is the last. Also, I have a feeling that the last map piece left to be revealed will be mostly ocean.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing what's behind the "Places" section. We might get pictures of some of the important locations to give us some perspective of the events taking place. I wonder, for example, what city is depicted on the cover.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4273 on: December 28, 2015, 03:44:46 AM »
Yeah, i was also wondering what was the "Capital" city.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4274 on: December 28, 2015, 03:46:09 AM »
I'm guessing that Perpetual View is the capital.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4275 on: December 28, 2015, 04:13:59 AM »
New Maineland.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4276 on: December 28, 2015, 04:22:36 AM »
I had a weird thought...
If TA is around 2 hours 10 minutes long (or 13) and average DT Evenings without the intermission clock at around 2:43-:2:50 hours, that leaves like at least 30-35 minutes of remaining time.

I've been trying to wonder about an encore, and I'm almost begging to have Octavarium as an encore.
Or have a two part encore where Surrender to Reason and The Bigger Picture are played, followed by 8VM.

I mean, that poll for favorite epic can't be in vain, Octavarium fucking won!
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4277 on: December 28, 2015, 04:28:41 AM »
If they play Octavarium i think i would literally cry. But i think it's very unlikely, didn't they say they were playing nothing but The Astonishing?
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4278 on: December 28, 2015, 04:33:47 AM »
Quote from: thosava on December 28, 2015, 04:28:41 AM
If they play Octavarium i think i would literally cry. But i think it's very unlikely, didn't they say they were playing nothing but The Astonishing?

That would be a short show for DT evening.
Consider Disc I as the first part of the show, then intermission, then only 50 minutes more of music and the end of it?
I don't think they'd want to stick to that exclusively. One can hope, and I hope we get an encore of an epic or something, 8VM seems to me the only worthy encore after hearing TA, like A Change of Seasons was to SFAM
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4279 on: December 28, 2015, 04:35:08 AM »
Quote from: Darkstarshades on December 28, 2015, 04:22:36 AM
I had a weird thought...
If TA is around 2 hours 10 minutes long (or 13) and average DT Evenings without the intermission clock at around 2:43-:2:50 hours, that leaves like at least 30-35 minutes of remaining time.

I've been trying to wonder about an encore, and I'm almost begging to have Octavarium as an encore.
Or have a two part encore where Surrender to Reason and The Bigger Picture are played, followed by 8VM.

I mean, that poll for favorite epic can't be in vain, Octavarium fucking won!

You don't think they'll play 2 hours and 40 minute shows without an intermission right? The remaining half hour is mostly a break of some sort (likely inbetween Act 1 and 2).
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4280 on: December 28, 2015, 04:37:02 AM »
Quote from: Train of Naught on December 28, 2015, 04:35:08 AM
Quote from: Darkstarshades on December 28, 2015, 04:22:36 AM
I had a weird thought...
If TA is around 2 hours 10 minutes long (or 13) and average DT Evenings without the intermission clock at around 2:43-:2:50 hours, that leaves like at least 30-35 minutes of remaining time.

I've been trying to wonder about an encore, and I'm almost begging to have Octavarium as an encore.
Or have a two part encore where Surrender to Reason and The Bigger Picture are played, followed by 8VM.

I mean, that poll for favorite epic can't be in vain, Octavarium fucking won!

You don't think they'll play 2 hours and 40 minute shows without an intermission right? The remaining half hour is mostly a break of some sort (likely inbetween Act 1 and 2).

I  never said that, I said the shows WITHOUT the intermission clock at that, exceeding 3 hours WITH the intermission.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4281 on: December 28, 2015, 04:49:51 AM »
Breaking the Fourth Wall is about 2 hours 45 minutes. Thats excluding the breaks. The Astonishing is about 2 hours 13 minutes, meaning we have a half hour left. Maybe we get an encore, although it would be unlikely to end the show on something completely unrelated. Maybe the show is just a bit shorter? Or maybe they add a lot of narration, scene changes and extended solos?
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4282 on: December 28, 2015, 04:54:04 AM »
Looks like Amanda Seyfried to me. With pink hair. Which is cool.

I'd also fathom a guess that while Faythe is with the GNE, the song 'Losing Faythe' is probably about her becoming jaded and eventually defecting. Headphones also suggest she doesn't go for all this no-music tomfoolery and the pink hair suggests she is a bit of a maverick who is her own person - the pink sheep of the family (see what I did there :o) -  who won't be told what to do by anyone let alone her parents  :tup ;)
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4283 on: December 28, 2015, 05:04:43 AM »
I wonder if all the GNE characters are related. Arabelle is likely to be Nafaryus' wife (the Empress), Daryus looks like he could be his brother, and Faythe could be Nafaryus and Arabelle's daughter.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4284 on: December 28, 2015, 05:06:20 AM »
Daryus is the prince, and I'm guessing Faythe to be his daughter. We'll get that annoucement soon enough. Also, can't wait for clock guy.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4285 on: December 28, 2015, 05:09:14 AM »
Quote from: RoeDent on December 28, 2015, 05:04:43 AM
I wonder if all the GNE characters are related. Arabelle is likely to be Nafaryus' wife (the Empress), Daryus looks like he could be his brother, and Faythe could be Nafaryus and Arabelle's daughter.

I think that's a very real possibility, and would be a logical conclusion from what we know.

Also, on one of your earlier comments about the last map piece: From what I can tell on the pre-order page, there actually looks to be a little border looking somewhat like a mirror with some writing in it or maybe a map key in that remaining corner  :tup
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4286 on: December 28, 2015, 05:35:33 AM »
Faythe's is loyal to GNE -> Her secret crush (Gabriel) gives her a pair of phones -> She discovers music -> MOMENT OF BETRAYAL -> She must chose between her family, the empire, and her love, the rebels ->THE PATH THAT DIVIDES -> Someone (from GNE) discovers her struggle and tries to change her mind, without success -> kills her brutally -> LOSING FAYTHE
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4287 on: December 28, 2015, 05:36:40 AM »
If I was going to any of these shows I wouldn't want them play things that are not from TA. That'd ve pretty weird considering how they've set this all up. Like watching a complete and contained movie and have it end with a single scene from a completely different movie. It would completely betray the vibe that it seems like they're going with.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4288 on: December 28, 2015, 06:05:12 AM »
How I miss the times when concerts just last 90 minutes.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4289 on: December 28, 2015, 06:39:51 AM »
Oh, look. Another white person. Huh...
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4290 on: December 28, 2015, 06:48:49 AM »
Well, they're all in family with each other, why'd you expect the daughter of the emperor to be black or hispanic?
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4291 on: December 28, 2015, 06:54:43 AM »
Quote from: noxon on December 28, 2015, 06:48:49 AM
Well, they're all in family with each other, why'd you expect the daughter of the emperor to be black or hispanic?

Because somewhere in 2+ hours of music, you would expect a plot twist that the mother had an affair with the gardener.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4292 on: December 28, 2015, 06:58:10 AM »
Not knowing the story (like a certain privileged member of this forum) I had no idea that the eight people who are characters in this story are all family. If that's true, then it makes perfect sense.

There is still an overriding, obvious, assumption here that I find...odd.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4293 on: December 28, 2015, 06:58:48 AM »
If it's confirmed that there are no 10-minute songs on the album, you can guarantee some will have a moan about it, despite the fact that overall, we're getting about an hour MORE new DT music than we normally get when a new album comes out. Essentially, we're getting two albums worth of new music in one go.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4294 on: December 28, 2015, 07:10:35 AM »
I didn't say every character is in family with each other, but the GNE is - it's the "royal family tree". Emperor, empress, brother and sister.
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« Reply #4295 on: December 28, 2015, 07:13:53 AM »
Okay.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4296 on: December 28, 2015, 07:20:45 AM »
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 28, 2015, 06:54:43 AM
Quote from: noxon on December 28, 2015, 06:48:49 AM
Well, they're all in family with each other, why'd you expect the daughter of the emperor to be black or hispanic?

Because somewhere in 2+ hours of music, you would expect a plot twist that the mother had an affair with the gardener.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4297 on: December 28, 2015, 08:05:52 AM »
Quote from: Podaar on December 28, 2015, 06:58:10 AM
Not knowing the story (like a certain privileged member of this forum) I had no idea that the eight people who are characters in this story are all family. If that's true, then it makes perfect sense.

There is still an overriding, obvious, assumption here that I find...odd.
Are we really going to have to have this conversation? :\
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4298 on: December 28, 2015, 08:34:30 AM »
Nope.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4299 on: December 28, 2015, 08:49:10 AM »
Faythe seems to have time for music...
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4300 on: December 28, 2015, 08:57:22 AM »
She could be listening to audio books.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4301 on: December 28, 2015, 09:03:55 AM »
Faythe.....I'm diggin the pink hair!
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4302 on: December 28, 2015, 09:05:46 AM »
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Please note that I didnt tried to suggest he isnt a big deal, just wanted to know if you knew him, as I consider many of this forum to a much more varied music knowledge than myself. Thats why I didnt bother to Wiki him, sometimes "from mouth to ear" (err my english is lagging ;)) is the best way to know a man status.
It's certainly a better way than "ass to mouth."
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4303 on: December 28, 2015, 09:13:59 AM »
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She could be listening to audio books.
Ruining the narrative here.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)
« Reply #4304 on: December 28, 2015, 09:17:18 AM »
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Alright, Faythe has finally been revealed… and she's with the Empire! ???

SO GOTH

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