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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1645 on: November 24, 2015, 10:58:41 PM »
Outcry was about everything going on in the middle east and all the revolutions going on down there. That's a pretty serious subject. To follow that up with a pretty over the top fantasy story would just feel... Wrong. So I wouldn't bet on it.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1646 on: November 24, 2015, 11:05:34 PM »
Quote from: Darkstarshades on November 24, 2015, 05:16:08 PM
Anyone here remembers how was it when SFAM was going to be launched?
Did you know it was concept?
How were your thoughts then about it?

I only knew the releasedate for SFAM so I went in to a recordstore and pixked up the album on that day.
It was only when I saw the cover that I knew it was a concept album. Smiled all the way home to the stereo...
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1647 on: November 25, 2015, 03:10:07 AM »
Maybe that nugget at the end of Illumination theory has some connection with the new album  :eek
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1648 on: November 25, 2015, 03:56:50 AM »
Quote from: SwedishGoose on November 24, 2015, 11:05:34 PM
Quote from: Darkstarshades on November 24, 2015, 05:16:08 PM
Anyone here remembers how was it when SFAM was going to be launched?
Did you know it was concept?
How were your thoughts then about it?

I only knew the releasedate for SFAM so I went in to a recordstore and pixked up the album on that day.
It was only when I saw the cover that I knew it was a concept album. Smiled all the way home to the stereo...

Same here. I will never forget it  :coolio walking into the store knowing only (it was the pre-internet days) that on said that the "new DT album" was out, and finding out only there in the store it was Metropolis pt.2  :metal
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1649 on: November 25, 2015, 05:29:23 AM »
Yeah, about that Outcry pt 2:

There definitely are many ADTOE/IAW similarities, we proved that many times until now. Those structural similarities couldn't be pure coincidence, and DT had to be aware of them, not only aware, they INTENTIONALLY made the albums similar. And guess what, Petrucci was asked about those similarities in an interview, and again guess what, he denied them. I wouldn't be surprised if they actually planned this for some time (since 2011 at least): they were going to make a concept album based on a song, since Outcry has similarities with Metropolis, the new album may actually be called Outcry pt 2: The Astonishing.
 There are also more things adding up to the hypothesis, like similarities between self-titled and Awake, as well as FII was intended to be a double album, including the song Metropolis pt 2, but they weren't allowed to do that. And now that they're allowed...

This is all pure speculation (not that random though), and I'm saying don't be that surprised if DT comes one day and announces full album name actually is Outcry pt. 2: The Astonishing
I mean, I will definitely be hyped AF, but not surprised. :D
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1650 on: November 25, 2015, 05:30:57 AM »
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1651 on: November 25, 2015, 05:36:59 AM »
I mean, other than there being blue, silver, and black on both album covers, I don't really see any similarities between Awake and DT12.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1652 on: November 25, 2015, 05:40:45 AM »
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1653 on: November 25, 2015, 05:43:05 AM »
Quote from: Darkstarshades on November 24, 2015, 05:16:08 PM
Anyone here remembers how was it when SFAM was going to be launched?
Did you know it was concept?
How were your thoughts then about it?
I too remember there was a confusion about Met. pt.2 being on the album and it being THE album. But when I purchased it I was aware of what it was. In my case, the fact of being a concept was overshadowed by being Metropolis pt.2. The musical concept (recurring motifs and variations of Pt. 1 throughout the whole album) was much more important to me than the lyrical, the storyline. There was so much to discover, musically.
I hope the new album works with recurring themes, too (not necessarily Metropolis themes, but new ones)
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1654 on: November 25, 2015, 05:45:20 AM »
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:getoffmylawn: you made me watch 35 seconds of an Adam Sandler movie.

I'm so sorry I forced you to watch an entire half minute Youtube video of something you prejudged to hate based on the inclusion of an actor who was in it for a total of 2 seconds at the end. Life must be really hard for you. :biggrin:
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1655 on: November 25, 2015, 05:57:46 AM »
Your favourite movie is Jack and Jill isn't it.

FESS UP !
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1656 on: November 25, 2015, 06:01:05 AM »
:lol Never seen it, or any Adam Sandler movie past 2000.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1657 on: November 25, 2015, 06:02:46 AM »
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 25, 2015, 06:01:05 AM
:lol Never seen it, or any Adam Sandler movie past 2000.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1658 on: November 25, 2015, 06:08:36 AM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on November 25, 2015, 06:02:46 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 25, 2015, 06:01:05 AM
:lol Never seen it, or any Adam Sandler movie past 2000.

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He made movies after 2000?
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1659 on: November 25, 2015, 06:27:14 AM »
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He made movies after 2000?

It's more like he "attempted" to make movies after 2000.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1660 on: November 25, 2015, 06:45:23 AM »
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1661 on: November 25, 2015, 06:51:35 AM »
Quote from: SuperTaco on November 25, 2015, 06:27:14 AM
Quote from: Prog Snob on November 25, 2015, 06:08:36 AM

He made movies after 2000?

It's more like he "attempted" to make movies after 2000.

Everything after 2000 is just cash grabs paid for by massive product placement in his films and corporate endorsements.

I kinda want to watch Jack & Jill to see just how bad it is.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1662 on: November 25, 2015, 06:54:44 AM »
The fun thing about google is that they've saved all the newsgroups communications from waaaay back when.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.music.dream-theater/XpnlCNBi-yw

You can search through it to find waht people talked about during an albums release.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1663 on: November 25, 2015, 08:24:45 AM »
Quote from: BlackInk on November 25, 2015, 05:36:59 AM
I mean, other than there being blue, silver, and black on both album covers, I don't really see any similarities between Awake and DT12.

I donīt think ADToE is a carbon copy of I&W as some people say, but ok, I admit ADToE is the album closest in spirit to I&W.

But DT12 and Awake donīt have almost anything is common... one lyric by Myung in each?
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1664 on: November 25, 2015, 09:23:28 AM »
Quote from: vazquez on November 25, 2015, 08:24:45 AM
Quote from: BlackInk on November 25, 2015, 05:36:59 AM
I mean, other than there being blue, silver, and black on both album covers, I don't really see any similarities between Awake and DT12.

I donīt think ADToE is a carbon copy of I&W as some people say

Good, because it isn't, and the few people that try to make that argument are either WAY overstating their point or don't really understand music.  But there is a separate thread for that if people still want to talk about it.  Let's keep this one on topic please.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1665 on: November 25, 2015, 09:33:48 AM »
Yeah c'mon vazquez, we were clearly talking about the very serious topic of Adam Sandler's post-2k acting career.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1666 on: November 25, 2015, 09:48:00 AM »
Quote from: noxon on November 25, 2015, 06:54:44 AM
The fun thing about google is that they've saved all the newsgroups communications from waaaay back when.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.music.dream-theater/XpnlCNBi-yw

You can search through it to find waht people talked about during an albums release.

Woah . . . and I thought this forum had a lot of threads  :lol

Cool stuff Noxon, very interesting to look back at that discussion!

But yeah everyone let's get back on topic . . . I apologize for starting the whole IAW is like ADTOE thing  :lol
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1667 on: November 25, 2015, 09:54:16 AM »
So here's a question . . .

Based solely on the song titles, which track off the new album do you guys want to hear the most???

And you can't say "Astonishing" because I know everyone's gonna pick that  :lol So other than that one  ;)
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1668 on: November 25, 2015, 09:57:26 AM »
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1669 on: November 25, 2015, 10:00:44 AM »
No idea.  :lol  Seriously, I just can't pick when I know nothing about the songs.  Never can.  I guess the exception would be Redemption's upcoming album.  Those have to be some of the best sounding, most intriguing song titles I have ever seen.  But that is a clear exception to the rule.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1670 on: November 25, 2015, 10:07:27 AM »
Lord Nafaryus, of course.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1671 on: November 25, 2015, 10:07:37 AM »
Quote from: Nomaniac on November 25, 2015, 09:54:16 AM
So here's a question . . .

Based solely on the song titles, which track off the new album do you guys want to hear the most???

And you can't say "Astonishing" because I know everyone's gonna pick that  :lol So other than that one  ;)

Descent of the NOMACS :nomac:

And then the other 33 after that.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1672 on: November 25, 2015, 10:36:03 AM »
Prequel cover art showing invading NOMACs released:

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1673 on: November 25, 2015, 10:39:24 AM »
Those look more like the ones from Oblivion than the Nomacs.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1674 on: November 25, 2015, 10:41:24 AM »
Well, I think that is because they are T-1 models during the initial invasion.  By the time of The Astonishing, I think they are T-800's. 
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1675 on: November 25, 2015, 10:44:47 AM »
In no reality would I ever want Dream Theater to sound like Megadeth :lol
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1676 on: November 25, 2015, 10:56:07 AM »
I'm sure you once said "In no reality would I ever want peanut butter in my chocolate" too, so...
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1677 on: November 25, 2015, 10:56:20 AM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on November 25, 2015, 10:44:47 AM
In no reality would I ever want Dream Theater to sound like Megadeth :lol

Tough luck with the middle of This Dying Soul and the verses in Behind the Veil, huh?  ;D

I kid, I think that's just LaBrie being ~edgy~ (I like it)
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1678 on: November 25, 2015, 10:59:46 AM »
BTW i don't think that the music of new Megadeth's album compares to the beautiful cover....
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #1679 on: November 25, 2015, 11:08:13 AM »
Quote from: Frankgate on November 25, 2015, 10:59:46 AM
BTW i don't think that the music of new Megadeth's album compares to the beautiful cover....
I like the Ghost In The Machine style LED font.
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