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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #910 on: November 16, 2015, 10:18:14 AM »
The X Aspect is a really... odd name. It just doest fit right me thinks


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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #911 on: November 16, 2015, 10:20:13 AM »
Weird that Act 2 doesn't start with a NOMACS icon track... Nor does Act 1 end with one. There goes my theory of them being bookends..

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #912 on: November 16, 2015, 10:23:37 AM »
Also, Entr'acte pretty much means "intermission"... Weird to start Act 2 with an intermission...

"Entr'acte (or entracte [ɑ̃tʁakt]),[1] means "between the acts" (German: Zwischenspiel and Zwischenakt, Italian: Intermezzo, Spanish: Intermedio). It can mean a pause between two parts of a stage production, synonymous to an intermission (this is nowadays the more common meaning in French), but it more often (in English) indicates a piece of music performed between acts of a theatrical production. In the case of stage musicals, the entr'acte serves as the overture of act 2 (and sometimes acts 3 and 4, as in Carmen). In films that were meant to be shown with an intermission, there was frequently a specially recorded entr'acte on the soundtrack between the first and second half of the film, although this practice has died out in recent years."

Well, we're DEFINITIVELY way into Rock Opera territory here now.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #913 on: November 16, 2015, 10:23:57 AM »
Did the NOMACS image get updated? I don't remember there being a "Red Dot" in the reflection above it's "eyes"

Definitely updated as well.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #914 on: November 16, 2015, 10:24:41 AM »
That's a hell of a lot of tracks.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #915 on: November 16, 2015, 10:25:10 AM »

Definitely updated as well.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #916 on: November 16, 2015, 10:26:12 AM »
Just as weird as ending Act 1 with it. It's got to go somewhere, and that's surely the best place for it. The proper 'action' of Act 2 begins with Moment of Betrayal.

On another thought, we are gonna have a hell of a lot of songs to add to DT the League for 2017, aren't we?

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #917 on: November 16, 2015, 10:27:52 AM »
I've got to say I really like both The Road to Revolution and Moment of Betrayal titles.
This first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #918 on: November 16, 2015, 10:31:52 AM »
I'm 100% sure the 3rd eye has always been there. This image is from the newsletter subscription page, from last month.


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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #919 on: November 16, 2015, 10:40:08 AM »
I'm 100% sure the 3rd eye has always been there. This image is from the newsletter subscription page, from last month.



Yep, nothing new on the NOMAC.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #920 on: November 16, 2015, 10:41:27 AM »
The red dot was there before - I've been checking it because the 2 lit ones act as click-able links, but don't actually do anything yet and I'm intrigued as to why they change the cursor.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #921 on: November 16, 2015, 10:44:24 AM »
Holy shit...

This is going to be 160 minutes of unadulterated concept album, isn't it
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #922 on: November 16, 2015, 10:46:05 AM »
Ooops, I hadn't noticed it before! I'm getting old... :P

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #923 on: November 16, 2015, 10:46:28 AM »
Some of the titles sound like film score cues to me, particularly "A Tempting Offer". I can imagine orchestral/instrumental music being written for that one.

I'm loving the title "The Road to Revolution". Sounds like the Ravenskill rebels making plans/negotiations, and then the Revolution must take place. It cannot be stopped.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #924 on: November 16, 2015, 10:47:29 AM »
THIRD DOT APPEARS THEN THIRD ACT APPEARS THEN THIRD DISC IS CONFIRMED!!11111

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #925 on: November 16, 2015, 10:50:17 AM »
It looks like it's 4 discs, for me it shows

Act 1:

1)
2)
3)
4)
5)
6)
7)
8)
9)
10)

1) 11
2) 12
3) 13
4) 14
5) 15
6) 16
7) 17
8) 18
9) 19
10) 20

ACT 2

1) 1
2) 2
3) 3
4)
5)

1)
2)
3)
4)
5)

EDIT: it's gone now so may have been an error, my bad!

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #926 on: November 16, 2015, 10:52:33 AM »
Also, Entr'acte pretty much means "intermission"... Weird to start Act 2 with an intermission...

"Entr'acte (or entracte [ɑ̃tʁakt]),[1] means "between the acts" (German: Zwischenspiel and Zwischenakt, Italian: Intermezzo, Spanish: Intermedio). It can mean a pause between two parts of a stage production, synonymous to an intermission (this is nowadays the more common meaning in French), but it more often (in English) indicates a piece of music performed between acts of a theatrical production. In the case of stage musicals, the entr'acte serves as the overture of act 2 (and sometimes acts 3 and 4, as in Carmen). In films that were meant to be shown with an intermission, there was frequently a specially recorded entr'acte on the soundtrack between the first and second half of the film, although this practice has died out in recent years."

Well, we're DEFINITIVELY way into Rock Opera territory here now.
I imagine it probably effectively represents an Act II overture of sorts.

Also, 20 tracks on Act I, good lord.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #927 on: November 16, 2015, 10:54:17 AM »
Well, we know that it will be less than 2 hours and 40 minutes, which is about two full discs. So there could be more than two CD's, but that wouldn't be the sake of limited disc space.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #928 on: November 16, 2015, 10:54:45 AM »
A bit disappointed it wasn't just only "The Astonishing" in the act II lol

Now I'm almost certain for some reason that we won't have a single "classic DT" song, those are probably all going to be some short songs connected to eachother that will be meh if listened as individual songs
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #929 on: November 16, 2015, 10:55:43 AM »
It seems like they put massive amount of detail on the story, and thats great. However, unlike a book or a movie, the plot is really not he most important thing here. Music is about replay value for me, and the story isnt really the matter in it. So I hope they remember that music is above all here, even if they created the most epic storyline music industry saw.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #930 on: November 16, 2015, 10:59:21 AM »
A bit disappointed it wasn't just only "The Astonishing" in the act II lol

Now I'm almost certain for some reason that we won't have a single "classic DT" song, those are probably all going to be some short songs connected to eachother that will be meh if listened as individual songs

I'd put money on Act II having a title track in it
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #931 on: November 16, 2015, 11:00:28 AM »
Really excited for this. Everything seems so huge. I'm astonished.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #933 on: November 16, 2015, 11:03:20 AM »
THIRD DOT APPEARS THEN THIRD ACT APPEARS THEN THIRD DISC IS CONFIRMED!!11111


There must be the third and last act
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I like that despite what has been revealed so far, we still have no real clue of what this album will be like  :lol

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #934 on: November 16, 2015, 11:03:36 AM »
Wow, that's a lot of tracks! I'm growing more and more interested in this concept!

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #935 on: November 16, 2015, 11:04:33 AM »
Lots of 'A' and 'The' with subjects and predicates in proper order! It feels more like some unimaginative novel chapters than song titles. (Brother, Can you hear me? and WYTHC are exceptions but still they are not doing much)

Makes me a bit apprehensive about expecting good lyrics here. But hey unimaginative titles have been around with DT forever! (notable exceptions are 8vm, Sacrified Sons, HTF and most parts for I&W and FII).

Maybe I am just splitting hairs here but like always for me its all on the music now!

EDIT : I realized I am indeed splitting hairs here! I am so pumped for this. It is really frustrating that the album is still 2 months away and all we can do is stare at the titles. I think JLB and JMX will be having way more lyrical duties than before in this one. So we ll be covered on the lyrics part. And Act 2 titles are pretty good.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #936 on: November 16, 2015, 11:07:32 AM »
I am beginning to imagine these European concerts are just The Astonishing without any older material.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #937 on: November 16, 2015, 11:11:20 AM »
I am beginning to imagine these European concerts are just The Astonishing without any older material.

Is it possible they add some more dates, because I reeealy want to go but I won't be able to if they don't come to Bulgaria.  :sad:
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #938 on: November 16, 2015, 11:24:19 AM »
Wow, that's a lot of new acronyms for us to remember!
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #939 on: November 16, 2015, 11:25:43 AM »
Wow, that's a lot of new acronyms for us to remember!

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #940 on: November 16, 2015, 11:31:48 AM »
Hoping Act II doesn't have as many as I. That way there can be short songs on I and some lengthier ones on II.

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« Reply #941 on: November 16, 2015, 11:33:48 AM »
Wow, that's a lot of new acronyms for us to remember!

That'll surely be a nightmare... to remember XD

Also imagine the confusion when people will use the TA acronym. Will they be talking about the song The Answer or the album The Astonishing? And then it gets even more confusing if there's a song called The Astonishing   :eek

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #942 on: November 16, 2015, 11:34:04 AM »
Hoping Act II doesn't have as many as I. That way there can be short songs on I and some lengthier ones on II.

Or one song might be divided up over three tracks.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #943 on: November 16, 2015, 11:36:06 AM »
I am beginning to imagine these European concerts are just The Astonishing without any older material.

Is it possible they add some more dates, because I reeealy want to go but I won't be able to if they don't come to Bulgaria.  :sad:

I think they're still adding them. I'm praying for a Finland date  :mehlin
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing
« Reply #944 on: November 16, 2015, 11:44:03 AM »
when we click on the ''Tracklisting'' the URL changes for https://www.dreamtheater.net/theastonishing#mini_track, hummm mini-tracks...