Dream Theater entered the studio in February v. No News is Good News

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

I thought that was a strength of DT12, some of the vocal phrasings were fresh. Maybe I am thinking of only a few and overgeneralizing, though.

[dream416]

I'm in the camp where if we don't hear anything that's fine with me. And I hope it stays that way...
Because I'm enjoying all the theories people are coming up with....makes for some interesting reading 

[Randaran]

Because I'm enjoying all the theories people are coming up with....makes for some interesting reading 

And then we can all act butthurt when said theories inevitably end up being completely wrong!

[BlackInk]

I'm enjoying the secrecy at the moment, but eventually I will want to know something, which I'm sure will come. I'd actually be fine if they just released the tracklisting and the track lengths, and nothing else. I don't need more than that.

[Voices]

I'm enjoying the secrecy at the moment, but eventually I will want to know something, which I'm sure will come. I'd actually be fine if they just released the tracklisting and the track lengths, and nothing else. I don't need more than that.

Maybe it's too early for them to release the tracklisting and song lengths. I'd be happy with that too, but for now I think probably they'll give a few details about DT13 before they reveal the title and throw us some snippets.

[wasteland]

Last time we didn't get any sample of the album (barring the "a cappella" line of The Looking Glass from the studio videos) until Enemy was released a few weeks before the album, right'

[TheGreatPretender]

I think BlackInk was saying he'd like them to release that stuff in general, not necessarily that it should've been already done.
Considering they're still in the studio, it wouldn't be too surprising to me if they released a single, maybe in October or something.

[BlobVanDam]

Last time we didn't get any sample of the album (barring the "a cappella" line of The Looking Glass from the studio videos) until Enemy was released a few weeks before the album, right'

You forgot the view of the notation of FAS from the studio videos!.

The first thing we'll hear now is the single.

[Darkstarshades]

False Awakening Suite is the shortest suite ever.
That disappointed me as hell.
Why weren't they honest and called it "False Awakening Show Intro"?

[BlobVanDam]

I don't know if it was just a tongue in cheek name, or whether it came from the way they composed the song, but I find it amusing.

[425]

I remember when we first got the track listing, how a lot of us thought it was going to be like an 12-minute thing because it had three listed parts, and then we found out what it actually was.

[BlackInk]

Yeah that was pretty disappointing. Would've been such a cool name too, for a 10+ minute track.

[YtseJamittaja]

I remember when we first got the track listing, how a lot of us thought it was going to be like an 12-minute thing because it had three listed parts, and then we found out what it actually was.

Actually does it have 3 parts listed somewhere? I have never really cared about it.

[RoeDent]

]It's only August 4th. If the album isn't due until Jan/Feb, then we probably won't get announcements until late October at the earliest, if not November. So still 2-3 months of groundless speculation lie ahead of us. This thread is on 80 pages as it is...

And yes, I was hugely surprised at False Awakening Suite when it was revealed. You expect any song split into movements to be of reasonable length.

Actually does it have 3 parts listed somewhere? I have never really cared about it.

I. Sleep Paralysis
II. Night Terrors
III. Lucid Dream

[Darkstarshades]

My relationship with FAS is actually interesting.
I first heard it when I bought the CD. And I was unaware of how long it was since I decided not to check.
I just knew the title "False Awakening Suite". And I thought, man, this has to be a long song or whathever in the likes of The Glass Prison. I actually recall saying "Maybe this is something like 6DOIT, a split song at the beginning and an epic at the end".

When it began I thought... "Man, this is a really really nice change to DT!" it quite reminded me of Rhapsody of Fire, y'know, this heavy guitarr riffing with strings and choruses and that thing, it's pretty pretty cool.
A minute in I was thinking "This is the coolest song intro I've ever heard for DT", I was expecting the voice to come in at any time, I was very excited and decided to check the timing. Then I read, in horror, that it was a short instrumental, which I already heard half of it.
Then all of sudden, it's over. It really pissed me off.
As a last hope and resort I said "Well it was cool! Maybe it's like a modern Overture 1928?". Then became even more disappointed when I realized the next songs were not this epic thing I thought they would.
It's been a while since then, and now I appreciate DT12 more than I&W itself, but that wound remains.

It would be cool if they did this again for the next album, BUT PLEASE! Don't name it Suite or split it in parts!

[Cyclopssss]

Should have called it False Expectations Suite, I guess.

[Darkstarshades]

Should have called it False Expectations Suite, I guess.

Fixed.
A friend of mine actually theorized that it was the original intro they had thought for Illumination Theory, and was reworked into a show opener.

Anyways, I love it now, and I'm looking forward to have a new cool show opener for 2016!

[erwinrafael]

I have a feeling that they will be using FAS as a show opener for a long time. They have gone on record to say that the motivation in writing FAS is to have their own intro music in their concerts.

[Darkstarshades]

Don't know you guys, but I've always considered the last two albums this way.
ADTOE: A working effort to make everyone certain that DT still exists without it's original drummer. I've always thought that, more than the songs themselves, ADTOE mirrors I&W in that both albums were written with a missing member (but taking it into consideration), I&W with no singer and ADTOE with no drummer. The album is a pretty interesting experiment and was totally not a playsafe. Pretty standard album with a lot of variety, no epic and has every single aspect of DT covered.

DT12: A more focused effort, which as far as I know generated a lot of hype since it was the first album with Mangini in the table. Again this reminds me of Awake. Sound is more consistent than in ADTOE, but I would say this was played more safely than ADTOE.

I don't, however, feel that any of these two albums brought anything new to DT sound. Sure, cool melodies and new stuff by JR, but that's it, they really had no serious changes in formula and stuff.
So I think the new album might be the first one where they are actually going to do what they did a lot with MP, "experimenting", changing stuff and expressing their crazy ideas. All of this supports my previous post where I said that now, when they claimed that it was something "different", it was for real.

[Moor]

JR on new DT album: "The good thing with this band is that we always manage to change the direction a bit. I think the DREAM THEATER fans will find what we have been working on interesting."

Read more at https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/jordan-rudess-on-next-dream-theater-album-fans-will-find-what-we-have-been-working-on-interesting/#sRKi2C7UW8P4kH0Z.99

Sounds promising 

[Scorpion]

That told us approximately nothing.

[BlobVanDam]

That told us approximately nothing.

Yep. You know a story lacks substance when even Blabbermouth can't twist it into controversy.

[Lucien]

The comments on that Blabbermouth page 

[BlobVanDam]

Don't you know better than to read Blabbermouth comments?

[Train of Naught]

Without reading it I bet it's something like this:
hurr durr Mangini sucks Portnoy da best, Labrie sucks, we want Images and Words back!

[rumborak]

Some of them are actually quite humorous

The band would be better without Rudess taking them deep into Casio Forest.

Hmmyes this math problem is quite fascinating

[BlobVanDam]

All of Blabbermouth is aids.

[fadetoblackdude7]

In regards to FAS, they should've just called it False Awakening and drop the whole 'suite' and 3 parts thing.

[BlobVanDam]

In regards to FAS, they should've just called it False Awakening and drop the whole 'suite' and 3 parts thing.

What difference does it make? The music is the same regardless of what it's called. They apparently wrote it to have distinct parts to represent different things, so why not?

[Jamesman42]

The band would be better without Rudess taking them deep into Casio Forest.

This is now my favorite quote ever.

[CDrice]

In regards to FAS, they should've just called it False Awakening and drop the whole 'suite' and 3 parts thing.

Well maybe False Awakening Suite is not the ''Suite of False Awakening'', but it's the ''False Suite of Awakening'' 

[GasparXR]

In regards to FAS, they should've just called it False Awakening and drop the whole 'suite' and 3 parts thing.

Well maybe False Awakening Suite is not the ''Suite of False Awakening'', but it's the ''False Suite of Awakening'' 

Yes. They were referring to the label of "suite" being false, meaning all of this bickering is useless.

[Setlist Scotty]

That told us approximately nothing.

Amen. Typical pre-album hype.
 
 

Without reading it I bet it's something like this:
hurr durr Mangini sucks Portnoy da best, Labrie sucks, we want Images and Words back!

Haven't read BM comments for a while, but you're right, which is a surprise, since every time I've read them in the past, almost every single post was a dig at Portnoy, and how he sucks, has an ego, blah blah blah. I still expected the same.

[The Stray Seed]

Alright, consider that they got the base stuff, some organized and planned, yet they still got enough things to do to keep them "very busy" at hotel rooms and that. Which means that they are using this tour to see how the audience reacts to different moments of their careers and see what they can come up with

If there's something I'm really hoping for, is for them not to follow any audience reaction at all. To write something that is unaffected by what others want/expect from them.

They went to some of the main metal festivals in Europe this summer: the crowd of those venues is most likely keen to react to the metal/heavy/virtuoso side instead of other aspects of their music.

No, I hope they just won't take any suggestion from what people <express>, yeah because reaction is all about what you show on the outside - I might absolutely love a song and just remain silent because I want to hear each and every note (I did this many times in a DT concert, because well... you don't always feel like headbanging and screaming in their gigs, do you?).

And after all, you really are "innovative" and "interesting" when you follow your own road, not the one the others lead you to.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

In b4 'this is our best album, a great representation of everything that Dream Theater does. It is melodic, heavy and progressive.'