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Re: New Live Release: BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL discussion thread
« Reply #1470 on: October 04, 2014, 06:43:46 AM »
Trial of Tears holy shit that intro!
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Re: New Live Release: BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL discussion thread
« Reply #1471 on: October 04, 2014, 06:49:30 AM »
Trial of Tears holy shit that intro!

This is what I posted during the show..
They are absolutely crushing Trial Of Tears right now.
MM and JM are in the zone.
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Re: New Live Release: BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL discussion thread
« Reply #1472 on: October 04, 2014, 06:56:19 AM »
I just watched the whole DVD, including the extras. :) Although I liked Luna Park more than most, I think BTFW fixes the few problems LALP had (unbalanced mix, lack of crowd noise) and has an even better setlist. The orchestra and choir are used well - not too overpowering, but not unnoticeable either. James isn't as perfect as I expected him to be, but he kicks ass on the Awake songs and this is still one of his strongest DVD performances. JP's tone is kind of muddy on the 7-string songs, but that's what it sounded like in the concert I saw and the YT live videos I've watched, so I knew what to expect. MM is fun to watch, and I don't understand people who whine about him being boring compared to MP. JMX is JMX and Jordan is Jordan... His face at the end of Overture kind of creeped me out, though! :lol

I would've appreciated more extras, but I'm happy about the inclusion of the EM animation, because I had trouble following it back in February. All in all, I'm very satisfied with BTFW, and it might just be my favorite live release now. :tup

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Re: New Live Release: BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL discussion thread
« Reply #1473 on: October 04, 2014, 07:01:59 AM »
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Re: New Live Release: BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL discussion thread
« Reply #1474 on: October 04, 2014, 08:10:54 AM »
Just finished the Awake section. Stunning.
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Re: New Live Release: BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL discussion thread
« Reply #1475 on: October 04, 2014, 08:39:33 AM »
Illumination Theory oh my sweet Lord
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Re: New Live Release: BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL discussion thread
« Reply #1476 on: October 04, 2014, 09:07:14 AM »
Just finished the Awake section. Stunning.

Illumination Theory oh my sweet Lord

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Re: New Live Release: BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL discussion thread
« Reply #1477 on: October 04, 2014, 10:12:55 AM »
Trial of Tears holy shit that intro!

One of my favourite parts of the gig, including both times I saw them. It's a shame the DVD wasn't filmed later in the tour as they've recently started expanding it. Check this out from the Argentina gig, they all launch into this improv for a few minutes and then come back round.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvGY_WTqSXg

It's awesome. Made me grin like a madman. Starts at 2:15ish.
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« Reply #1478 on: October 04, 2014, 10:27:54 AM »
Check this out from the Argentina gig, they all launch into this improv for a few minutes and then come back round.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvGY_WTqSXg

It's awesome. Made me grin like a madman. Starts at 2:15ish.

That is amazing.
I'm hoping they're doing something like they used to do with the intro to The Mirror back in the I&W tour days, and this ends up being expanded into a full song on the next album.

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Re: New Live Release: BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL discussion thread
« Reply #1479 on: October 04, 2014, 10:29:34 AM »
Dear God in Heaven.  After one viewing, I think this is EASILY their best live release.

Of course, I realize that part of that is coming from my love of Awake, SFAM, and DT12.  If one or more of those is not your cup of tea, I could understand not liking this one as much.

But for me, the setlist was out of this world, the visual aspect was fantastic, the band sounds incredible, and the performances are off the charts.

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« Reply #1480 on: October 04, 2014, 10:34:21 AM »
Hef speaketh the truth :tup
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« Reply #1481 on: October 04, 2014, 10:35:19 AM »

One of my favourite parts of the gig, including both times I saw them. It's a shame the DVD wasn't filmed later in the tour as they've recently started expanding it. Check this out from the Argentina gig, they all launch into this improv for a few minutes and then come back round.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvGY_WTqSXg

It's awesome. Made me grin like a madman. Starts at 2:15ish.

Wow, that is so cool. I hope they get back to that for the next album, very atmospheric and melodic!

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« Reply #1482 on: October 04, 2014, 10:35:52 AM »
Check this out from the Argentina gig, they all launch into this improv for a few minutes and then come back round.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvGY_WTqSXg

It's awesome. Made me grin like a madman. Starts at 2:15ish.

That is amazing.
I'm hoping they're doing something like they used to do with the intro to The Mirror back in the I&W tour days, and this ends up being expanded into a full song on the next album.

Yep. It may not actually be improv and it could be some new material! I hope it is because I love it.

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Re: New Live Release: BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL discussion thread
« Reply #1483 on: October 04, 2014, 10:56:34 AM »
Dear God in Heaven.  After one viewing, I think this is EASILY their best live release.

Of course, I realize that part of that is coming from my love of Awake, SFAM, and DT12.  If one or more of those is not your cup of tea, I could understand not liking this one as much.

But for me, the setlist was out of this world, the visual aspect was fantastic, the band sounds incredible, and the performances are off the charts.



I don't think we agree very often. But this time...  :tup
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Re: New Live Release: BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL discussion thread
« Reply #1484 on: October 04, 2014, 11:22:55 AM »
I totally agree with you hef!
Is from September 30th that I only listen to this DVD (and lately I'm listening to an unimaginable amount of good new music).
Absolutely wonderful stuff, I'm speechless.

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« Reply #1485 on: October 04, 2014, 11:57:15 AM »
Hef's walkthrough of the DVD was totally awesome  :lol
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« Reply #1486 on: October 04, 2014, 01:11:45 PM »
Trial of Tears holy shit that intro!

One of my favourite parts of the gig, including both times I saw them. It's a shame the DVD wasn't filmed later in the tour as they've recently started expanding it. Check this out from the Argentina gig, they all launch into this improv for a few minutes and then come back round.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvGY_WTqSXg

It's awesome. Made me grin like a madman. Starts at 2:15ish.

That's a good sign and makes me hopeful for more spontaneity and experimentation on future tours.

I agree with Hef that this is definitely their best live release.  It's the type of setlist I had hoped for at the Score show.  Not that it's perfect but it's damn good.

Why do people like The Shattered Fortress so much on this?  Am I missing some of the appeal because I am visually impaired?  (I saw a comment about MM being fun to watch on that song) I tried listening to the audio from the beginning while at the gym but after The Enemy Inside I skipped to Breaking All Illusions.

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Re: New Live Release: BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL discussion thread
« Reply #1487 on: October 04, 2014, 01:32:58 PM »
Trial of Tears holy shit that intro!

One of my favourite parts of the gig, including both times I saw them. It's a shame the DVD wasn't filmed later in the tour as they've recently started expanding it. Check this out from the Argentina gig, they all launch into this improv for a few minutes and then come back round.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvGY_WTqSXg

It's awesome. Made me grin like a madman. Starts at 2:15ish.

Damn, that was awesome. That seems to be the part of the show that has changed the most since it began in January.

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« Reply #1488 on: October 04, 2014, 04:54:46 PM »
  I can be spotted in two live DT releases now (Dream and Day Re-Unite being the other instance).  Good times!

I was sooooo bummed with that LA show for WDADU.  I was 2nd row, probably 3 seats left of center, and not once can you see me good.... :lol  Where are you at in that one?

That show was KILLER, so I'll assume you mean you were bummed with the DVD.   DT didn't announce beforehand or during the show that they were recording a DVD.  I can spotted once rocking hard to the opening of Killing Hand. 

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Re: New Live Release: BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL discussion thread
« Reply #1489 on: October 04, 2014, 06:16:52 PM »
Sometimes the crowd sounds piped in, but otherwise a great concert. I'd say Score is still LaBrie's finest moment.

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« Reply #1490 on: October 04, 2014, 06:21:33 PM »
Sometimes the crowd sounds piped in, but otherwise a great concert. I'd say Score is still LaBrie's finest moment.

I think Score is probably LaBrie's most consistent concert. But I've also heard mentions of certain parts being overdubbed. And besides, in terms of stage presence, I'd say LaBrie was at his all time worst in Score (among officially released video material). I mean, overall, it was pretty standard, but there were certain parts where he seemed so stiff for some reason.
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« Reply #1491 on: October 04, 2014, 06:28:30 PM »
Sometimes the crowd sounds piped in, but otherwise a great concert. I'd say Score is still LaBrie's finest moment.

I think Score is probably LaBrie's most consistent concert. But I've also heard mentions of certain parts being overdubbed. And besides, in terms of stage presence, I'd say LaBrie was at his all time worst in Score (among officially released video material). I mean, overall, it was pretty standard, but there were certain parts where he seemed so stiff for some reason.

I listen to the audio way more than watch the show, but his stage presence never bothered me. Neither does Hansi's of Blind Guardian who rarely moves from one spot.

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« Reply #1492 on: October 04, 2014, 06:54:19 PM »
I believe the live orchestra is playing over the pre-recorded orchestra track in the Illumination Theory section.  (52:16)

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« Reply #1493 on: October 04, 2014, 07:05:18 PM »
Finally got my copy of the DVD. Two songs in so far.

Holy shit.

Finally they get the live DVD they deserve.
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« Reply #1494 on: October 04, 2014, 07:41:02 PM »
I listen to the audio way more than watch the show, but his stage presence never bothered me. Neither does Hansi's of Blind Guardian who rarely moves from one spot.

It's not just the movement, I don't know what... The posture, I guess, he just looks... I don't know, weird in parts of Score.
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« Reply #1495 on: October 04, 2014, 08:25:42 PM »
How's the iTunes Download?

Anything about it I need to know it before I buy n d/l it?

I mean is it any good? Good mix? Everything clear?

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« Reply #1496 on: October 04, 2014, 08:34:52 PM »
The Blu-Ray + 3CD combo was too expensive, since it would've cost me $15 extra, so I got the regular Blu-Ray version, and for an audio version, I actually went with the HD Tracks version, which still ended up being cheaper overall for me than the BR3CD version.

In any case, the HD Tracks version is awesome, so I'd recommend that, but I can't comment on the iTunes version since I haven't heard it.
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« Reply #1497 on: October 04, 2014, 09:00:52 PM »


Woot! So far the best shot I found of myself.
And yes, I'm filming :lol
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« Reply #1498 on: October 04, 2014, 09:02:09 PM »
Sweater and all!

I'm too far in the dark underneath the balcony to see.
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« Reply #1499 on: October 04, 2014, 09:48:59 PM »


Woot! So far the best shot I found of myself.
And yes, I'm filming :lol

Kinda looks more like you're giving the sign of the horns rather than holding a camera/phone!  :lol

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« Reply #1500 on: October 04, 2014, 10:04:57 PM »


Awesome, even better shot. My brother will be pissed.

Now I'm wondering whether I should get the Blu-Ray, if it has better resolution!
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« Reply #1501 on: October 04, 2014, 10:16:49 PM »
If you squint really hard, you can see me, like, 500 miles to the West.
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« Reply #1502 on: October 04, 2014, 11:16:41 PM »
If Rumborak will permit me . . . adjusting my earplugs because it was frigging loud!


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« Reply #1503 on: October 04, 2014, 11:19:38 PM »
:lol That's awesome.

Seriously, I would have been very annoyed to not have been visible on this DVD, given the excellent seat I had. I'm already not visible on Score!!
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« Reply #1504 on: October 04, 2014, 11:22:01 PM »
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