Final Fantasy Discussion Thread

[Genowyn]

It's Ted Woolsey: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Woolseyism

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He did Chrono Trigger too. This image here emphasizes why his translations added to the games, even if they changed the meaning sometimes:


On a similar note, have any of you guys played FFT for PSP? I love the new translation. It's the translation that game always deserved I think.

[j]

My overall point is just that while FF7 is far from perfect, it was still the first time Square really went out of their way to at least try to translate the game accurately, without any censorship or numbing down of the plot.

Yeah I agree, probably the first time they dedicated a whole team of translators to a game.  And Sony didn't have the over-the-top censorship policies Nintendo had encumbered them with.  Unfortunately, they didn't have the quality control either.   It blows my mind that a script so full of errors could make it to a final product.

I didn't ever own a Playstation until I got a Playstation 2, and it was several years after FF7 came out that I actually played it.  I know its mainstream crossover wasn't really expected, but was it projected to be a hit even a fraction of the size of the one it became?  If so, maybe that has something to do with why Square put a little more into it, at least from a manpower perspective.

-J

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I think that it was expected to be a big game. There were commercials for it, and even some kind of marketing in conjunction with Pepsi.

[Ultimetalhead]

I think that it was expected to be a big game. There were commercials for it, and even some kind of marketing in conjunction with Pepsi.

Yes, it was expected. I think the projections were much smaller than what actually happened though.

[ehra]

Yeah, I remember seeing a commercial for it. Didn't they spoil Aeris' death during one? I remember seeing the scene in the game and being all "hey, I saw that on TV."

My dad's also still got the shirt that came with pre ordering the game.

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Yeah, I remember seeing a commercial for it. Didn't they spoil Aeris' death during one?

Yeah, I totally remember that. When I first starting playing the game, I asked me friend "wait, is this that game with the commercial with the dead girl in it?"

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I'm having such a good time replaying FF7 on my PSP. I only play for about 40 minutes a night and started sometime last week, so I'm just one-third through the Shinra building. But like I said, it's been lots of fun.

[Elsydeon]

I'm having such a good time replaying FF7 on my PSP. I only play for about 40 minutes a night and started sometime last week, so I'm just one-third through the Shinra building. But like I said, it's been lots of fun.

I hope you used the stairs to get to the top 

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Of course  On my last two playthroughs (playthrough meaning: getting somewhere on disc one and stopping) I took the elevator 'cause I wanted to level. This was the first time I took the stairs since my first ever playthrough. I forgot how hilarious that part is.

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Bumping to say I just caught the Chocobo and ran past the Zolom. The flashback scene used to be one of my favorite, but I like it a lot less recently. Probably because I've done it so many times. Whereas everything after, say, Cosmo Canyon is still really fresh for me, and has been played at max one or two times.

I've been using Aeris this play through for the first time ever. Damn I didn't realize how good she is with magic. Anyone ever attempt to get her final limit? Is it a tough thing to do?

[NecessaryPain]

Bumping to say I just caught the Chocobo and ran past the Zolom. The flashback scene used to be one of my favorite, but I like it a lot less recently. Probably because I've done it so many times. Whereas everything after, say, Cosmo Canyon is still really fresh for me, and has been played at max one or two times.

I've been using Aeris this play through for the first time ever. Damn I didn't realize how good she is with magic. Anyone ever attempt to get her final limit? Is it a tough thing to do?

I never bothered because I never liked using her. It won't be tough, it will just be a matter of time. It's really not worth it considering her fate.

It was a pain in the ass bringing her along to the Temple of the Ancients because she was so far behind the other characters in terms of stats, that it makes it much harder to beat the Demon Wall boss (a true pain in the ass for people who don't spend time levelling up)

I love the Kalm flashback and the events up until after Junon.

I never actually bother getting a chocobo anymore as the Zolom can be out-run through the marsches on foot. Just wait until it hits the far corner and make a run for it.

Which raises an interesting point - what do the Turks say when you bring Aeris along in the Mythril Cave? As I recall, they specifically ask Cloud where she is.

I've beaten FFVII about 8 times but never bothered to include her in my game. I might give it a try on next playthrough.

I almost always end up with Cloud/Barret/Cid.

[sonatafanica]

I've had a really strong urge lately to play some of the older Final Fantasies (vi and earlier). Looks like it's rom time ()

[Ultimetalhead]

I need to get a little bit further in IX. I'm starting to fall in love with the characters, so I need to play it a bit more before I really start to care about finishing it, I think.

[sonatafanica]

Is this your first play? If so, you're in for the treat. It's the best game of all time.

[Ultimetalhead]

Yeah, every monster is kicking my ass on the way to Burmecia. It's impossible to even level because only one fucking character survives.

[sonatafanica]

ohhhh man Burmecia is a fucking beautiful level. I love the the way that whole place looks with the rain and everything. But yeah, maybe you should LEVEL UP, PUSSY

[Genowyn]

What, the monster's between Gizmaluke's Grotto and Burmecia are giving you trouble? How the fuck did you manage to beat Gizmaluke, who wins the award for most disproportionately difficult boss ever, if you can't beat the monsters after him, which are weaksauce compared to the monsters in the grotto?

What is the matter with you?

[sonatafanica]

Beatrix: hot or hot?

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I never actually bother getting a chocobo anymore as the Zolom can be out-run through the marsches on foot. Just wait until it hits the far corner and make a run for it.

Yup. Done it. Sometimes I try and beat the Zolom just to see if I'm where I should be level-wise. It almost never matters, though.

Which raises an interesting point - what do the Turks say when you bring Aeris along in the Mythril Cave? As I recall, they specifically ask Cloud where she is.

I actually don't remember. I don't think it's anything special.

Demon's Gate was a bitch my first time through because 7 was my first RPG and I didn't have any idea what I was doing really. It'll be interesting just to see how the fight goes with a level 2 or 3 limit, since I've never gotten even that far with Aeris.

FTR, once you enter ToA, you can't leave 'til it's over, right? And once it ends, Aeris is gone for good? I'm having trouble remembering, as I rarely get that far in my playthroughs.



Also, for FF9, I turned my back forever when you have to split the party up. My party in the area where you can't use magic was all weak mage characters. So I gave up and never looked back.

[AwakeFromOctavarium]

So I'm already thinking of a SNES game to play after Chrono Trigger. I'm running on emu btw. I'm thinking between Earthbound and FF6. Which is better?

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So I'm already thinking of a SNES game to play after Chrono Trigger. I'm running on emu btw. I'm thinking between Earthbound and FF6. Which is better?

For some reason, neither ever really clicked with me.

[NecessaryPain]

FTR, once you enter ToA, you can't leave 'til it's over, right? And once it ends, Aeris is gone for good? I'm having trouble remembering, as I rarely get that far in my playthroughs.

Yeah, she goes off on her own after that and you'll either engage in the Gongaga side-story with Tifa, or you'll skip it as you brought her there straight after the Golden Saucer (optional)

Damn, just thinking about it makes me want to play it again.

[Ultimetalhead]

What, the monster's between Gizmaluke's Grotto and Burmecia are giving you trouble? How the fuck did you manage to beat Gizmaluke, who wins the award for most disproportionately difficult boss ever, if you can't beat the monsters after him, which are weaksauce compared to the monsters in the grotto?

What is the matter with you?

No, I can't beat the monsters on the way to Gizmaluke's Grotto. They're handing my ass to me on a silver fucking platter.

[Genowyn]

Also, for FF9, I turned my back forever when you have to split the party up. My party in the area where you can't use magic was all weak mage characters. So I gave up and never looked back.

He specifically told you that magic didn't work there, so that's your own fault, don't blame the game

[Perpetual Change]

Yeah, she goes off on her own after that and you'll either engage in the Gongaga side-story with Tifa, or you'll skip it as you brought her there straight after the Golden Saucer (optional)

Gongaga side story? Refresh my memory please 

Also, for FF9, I turned my back forever when you have to split the party up. My party in the area where you can't use magic was all weak mage characters. So I gave up and never looked back.

He specifically told you that magic didn't work there, so that's your own fault, don't blame the game

If the dialog weren't so god awfully boring I definitely would have paid more attention.

[Ultimetalhead]

I wish the story would go somewhere. I know I need to get to the next place, but the story got all interesting with the black mages and we've seen nothing about them since.

[Elsydeon]

So I'm already thinking of a SNES game to play after Chrono Trigger. I'm running on emu btw. I'm thinking between Earthbound and FF6. Which is better?

Ive only finishef ff6 and found that to be one of my fav games ever. Earthbound is cool too, you can't go wrong with either.

[Perpetual Change]

I wish the story would go somewhere. I know I need to get to the next place, but the story got all interesting with the black mages and we've seen nothing about them since.

Unfortunately there was never one time through FF9's story (as far as I got on disc 3) that really captivated me. I liked the atmosphere and everything, but never once did I actually care what was going on.

[Genowyn]

So I'm already thinking of a SNES game to play after Chrono Trigger. I'm running on emu btw. I'm thinking between Earthbound and FF6. Which is better?

Ive only finishef ff6 and found that to be one of my fav games ever. Earthbound is cool too, you can't go wrong with either.

Earthbound is one of the only other games I would put on the same tier of greatness as Chrono Trigger (the other being Silent Hill 2).

[NecessaryPain]

Yeah, she goes off on her own after that and you'll either engage in the Gongaga side-story with Tifa, or you'll skip it as you brought her there straight after the Golden Saucer (optional)

Gongaga side story? Refresh my memory please 

Some of the Zack/Aeris angle is explained here. But Cloud isn't much help as he's not yet realised how incredibly fucked up he is right now. (he is essentially emulating Zack himself)

Gongaga is Zack's hometown and you can meet his parents in the little house to the south-east of the village.

You get the best dialogue by bringing Aeris with you here. As she was once Zack's girlfriend. I think bringing Tifa along as well gives you some additional information.

You can do this without Aeris and just Tifa after the ToA implodes, or you can do this in full with Aeris and/or Tifa if you enter Gongaga straight after the Gold Saucer (just after you receive the road vehicle from Dio)

I think it's best to do it straight away as you get to fight Reno and Rude (and steal some shit) Plus you can get Titan Materia and Deathblow here, and also see a scene between Tseng and Scarlet. You will miss all of this (minus the materia) if you decide to wait until after the ToA.

I wish the story would go somewhere. I know I need to get to the next place, but the story got all interesting with the black mages and we've seen nothing about them since.

Unfortunately there was never one time through FF9's story (as far as I got on disc 3) that really captivated me. I liked the atmosphere and everything, but never once did I actually care what was going on.

Agree 100 percent. FFIX was just not consistant enough. It had great characters and atmosphere, but was letdown by poor storyline development from Disc 3 onwards. The whole Kuja angle ruined the game, and I was disappointed to see 50% of the world map you were beginning to explore - was nothing more than deserted land.

I think if Disc 3 and 4 were handled with more care, then it would be one of the best in the series.

[sonatafanica]

I wish the story would go somewhere. I know I need to get to the next place, but the story got all interesting with the black mages and we've seen nothing about them since.

Unfortunately there was never one time through FF9's story (as far as I got on disc 3) that really captivated me. I liked the atmosphere and everything, but never once did I actually care what was going on.

I honestly think you just have really, really, really bad taste in things just to troll me. There is no possible way that someone could so consistently not like or not get awesome things.

You are going to miss everything cool that ever happens and die angry, unfulfilled, and completely alone, utterly forgotten in a cold room.

May science have mercy on your soul.

[sonatafanica]

I wish the story would go somewhere. I know I need to get to the next place, but the story got all interesting with the black mages and we've seen nothing about them since.

I've honestly never had that problem with the game. The story seems to be really present the entire time.

I have, however, had that problem with Final Fantasy IV, but only on my first play.

[j]

I thought the story was great, easily one of the best in the series.  I guess you could say the pacing is a little inconsistent at times, but not significantly so, and I certainly never had any problems with it.  Play it again, fools!

-J

[AcidLameLTE]

Anyone who says FFIX has a bad story is dead inside and will never be happy. Ever.