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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #245 on: January 31, 2012, 09:10:19 PM »
I think I'll abstain from hearing the rest of the samples. The samples have overall got me pretty excited for the full album, and I want to listen to it fresh. And we've only got a week to go now. :metal
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #246 on: February 01, 2012, 07:15:25 AM »
I feel much better about this album now that I heard the other samples.
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #247 on: February 01, 2012, 11:07:50 AM »
Fuck yeah! I´ve heard enough for instant buy!!!  :metal
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #248 on: February 02, 2012, 04:40:28 AM »
Well it turns out the album officially comes out tomorrow here (even saw on ad on TV, which is really rare here), but someone mentioned on FB that they managed to get it today, so guess what I'm currently listening to? :metal

Just started listening to it, so no opinion yet, but the mix is absolutely perfect. Totally rocks. Mastering is a bit loud, but not a deal breaker.
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #249 on: February 02, 2012, 05:30:14 AM »
5 more days for us in the States.  Can't wait.
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #250 on: February 02, 2012, 07:47:19 AM »
I was able to get this yeaterday from a friend at VH's label. Agree with Blob. Mix is superb. I am a long time VH guy from way back in 1978. There are some "meh" songs on the album but overall, VH fans wont be dissapointed. I dont have time to do a review yet, but overall the album is very good. I was worried and will be honest went in with a worried/negative attitude. I will admit it definetly exceeded my expectations by FAR.
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #251 on: February 02, 2012, 08:16:32 AM »
The backups definitely lack a little bit of the diversity of tone they had with Michael Anthony (sounds like mostly just DLR to me), but aside from that, sounding great so far.

EVH really rips it up on the solos, and there's a lot of the extra fills and style trademarks you expect from Eddie. He's definitely in top form on the album. DLR sounds a little strained at times, but overall he's sounding really good. I think some of the intros are a bit drawn out, but they're much better once they get into it.

Still familiarizing myself with the songs, but it's already growing on me. I don't see it becoming one of my top VH albums at this stage, but it's already far from their worst either. I'd already take it over Balance, VH3, Diver Down and WACF.  :tup
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #252 on: February 02, 2012, 08:23:03 AM »
Totally agree Blob. Basically took the words out of my mouth. DLR yes sometimes feels a bit strained and they definetly miss Anthony's background vocals, but EVH's kid is ok on bass. EVH is at the top of his game. Tattoo is actually IMHO the weakest song on the album. For the most part the album is just old school VH (which is when most of the songs were originally written back in the DLR days). Its what you would have expected the album after 1984 to sound like if DLR had stayed.

I am happy with it and I think it will continue to grow on me. I am on like my 4th listen and still picking up different things. Cant wait to see them here in NYC soon.
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #253 on: February 02, 2012, 08:28:30 AM »
Some of the riff grooves are just incredible. The Trouble With Never has an amazing riff to kick it off. And Honeybabysweetiedoll has a really cool heavy riff to it too. And the solo for As Is is Eruption stuck in a song. All pure VH like only VH can do.

On my 2nd/3rd listen through (I skimmed a bit on my second listen) and I'm already loving it a lot more than the first listen. I think this is all I'll be listening to tomorrow. :metal

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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #254 on: February 02, 2012, 08:57:56 AM »
Despite being an ass, EVH REALLY is killer (in a EVH style) on this album.

Also the riff in honeybabysweetiedoll reminds a bit of a DT riff, i just cant think which song (I am doing a brain fart at the moment).
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #255 on: February 02, 2012, 01:24:59 PM »
I heard a full version of Stay Frosty and I love it. The album is really getting good reviews too
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #256 on: February 02, 2012, 02:07:58 PM »
I've heard the whole thing and I likes it. Lots of classic EVH guitar throughout. I've only listened through a couple times but the songs are already growing on me pretty good. I know some will refuse to like it or give it a chance but it's good stuff and I didn't have my hopes up at all.  :tup

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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #257 on: February 02, 2012, 02:10:50 PM »
Re: She's the Woman - I heard the old demo version and I'm sure it's been mentioned that part of it went on to become "Mean Street", i.e. the part just before the solo.  Pretty cool hearing that.

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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #258 on: February 02, 2012, 02:11:35 PM »
From what I've heard, the only thing I don't like about it is DLR's vocals.  They don't fit the liveliness of the album, but I'll still pick it up.

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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #259 on: February 02, 2012, 02:44:40 PM »
Edward Van Halen is still unbelievable.
As for now, As Is is by far my favourite.

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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #260 on: February 02, 2012, 05:45:21 PM »
I've heard lots of good things about this disc; can't wait for the 7th.

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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #261 on: February 02, 2012, 07:18:39 PM »
Here's Dave getting pretty deep about Tattoo

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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #262 on: February 02, 2012, 08:35:29 PM »
On my first listen, and it's pretty damn solid so far.
Orion....that's the one with a bunch of power chords and boringly harsh vocals, isn't it?
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #263 on: February 02, 2012, 08:50:01 PM »
Gave the songs I can listen to another listen, liking it A LOT more.

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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #264 on: February 02, 2012, 09:36:25 PM »
From what I've heard, the only thing I don't like about it is DLR's vocals.  They don't fit the liveliness of the album, but I'll still pick it up.

I'd agree that if anything, DLR's vocals are the weakest link. I still think he's sounding great for his age, but his phrasing and melodies are not quite as strong as the rest of the album. Still loving it so far though.
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #265 on: February 02, 2012, 11:55:06 PM »
Just listened to the album. Really exceeded my expectations. I'm happy to say that Tattoo is by far the worst song on the album. Also, while DLR isn't the most energetic of vocalists, the music on the album more than makes up for that fact. 9/10 on my first listen.

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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #266 on: February 03, 2012, 12:20:40 AM »
I'm doing to defend Dave.   I think he is SPOT ON....he sounds every bit as awesome as he did on MWM and CGTSNM.    Heck, when I heard Tattoo, I thought he was the only one in the band that still had it going on.    I'm glad Eddie brought it for the rest of the album...but I think Dave is just classic Dave here.
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #267 on: February 03, 2012, 01:47:48 AM »
First listen now to the album.

Blood And Fire rocks my socks :metal
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #268 on: February 03, 2012, 01:49:08 AM »
First listen now to the album.

Blood And Fire rocks my socks :metal

Just listening to that one right now. Definitely one of the standouts for me. :metal
I also love The Trouble With Never. That main riff has been stuck in my head all day. Such a totally rockin' riff.
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #269 on: February 03, 2012, 07:28:27 AM »
I didn't have a problem with DLR on this at all. This is his first album with the band in almost 30 years, so I was expecting him to be pretty subpar, but I actually found him quite enjoyable.

Whole album's pretty good, and I'm sure it will grow with repeated listens.
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #270 on: February 03, 2012, 08:11:57 AM »
Been listening to nothing but this album all day, and I now love it. Still several songs that have yet to really grow on me, but several others that I just can't stop listening to.
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #271 on: February 03, 2012, 08:57:09 AM »
I've only heard Stay Frosty thus far. I'll wait for my copy to arrive on Tuesday. If Stay Frosty is any indication, I'll love it
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #272 on: February 03, 2012, 10:33:35 AM »
Just checked out Stay Frosty on youtube.  The music sounds like vintage VH, but that recurring "Stay frosty" line is pretty bad.  Pass.

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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #273 on: February 03, 2012, 09:43:15 PM »
I've only heard Stay Frosty thus far. I'll wait for my copy to arrive on Tuesday. If Stay Frosty is any indication, I'll love it

If you love that, I think you'll love the rest too. :tup
My favourite songs so far are - She's the Woman, Blood and Fire, Honeybabysweetiedoll, The Trouble With Never, Stay Frosty and Big River. So much classic VH here, but also a lot of heavier modern sounding stuff that works perfectly.
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #274 on: February 04, 2012, 05:12:08 AM »
Wow just listened to Van Halen's new album samples , sorry guys but it sounds like a lame cover band with no chops , Eddie has lost that magic hook he had in almost every thing. And Roth talks threw way to many lyrics
Every new song but maybe one sounds like a bad attempt to rehash there old stuff , Its to bad i was looking forward to hearing Eddie play again but not so much anymore Yikes!!!! :facepalm:

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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #275 on: February 04, 2012, 06:20:58 AM »
The samples do not do the album justice.
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #276 on: February 04, 2012, 06:30:05 AM »
The samples do not do the album justice.

Definitely. VH's PR dropped the ball there. The first single was one of the most plain songs on the album (even though I've grown to quite like it), and the first few samples they released weren't the stronger stuff imo, and the samples were all intros (many of which go on a while) rather than showing the meat of the songs, such as any of the amazing guitar work.
I can't blame anyone for not being excited based on the samples, but any VH fan who doesn't pick this up is missing out.
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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #277 on: February 04, 2012, 11:12:58 AM »
The samples do not do the album justice.

Definitely. VH's PR dropped the ball there. The first single was one of the most plain songs on the album (even though I've grown to quite like it), and the first few samples they released weren't the stronger stuff imo, and the samples were all intros (many of which go on a while) rather than showing the meat of the songs, such as any of the amazing guitar work.
I can't blame anyone for not being excited based on the samples, but any VH fan who doesn't pick this up is missing out.
That being said, the samples have assured that I'm buying this  :D  I really like what I hear.

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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #278 on: February 06, 2012, 02:05:13 AM »
I heard the 6 full songs online (its an official stream), and overall, I'm on the fence. Nothing is jumping out at me except a few moments by EVH. I find DLRs vocal to be a weak link and the drumming way too toned down. I think it comes out today, so I'll pick up the mp3s and give it a solid listen.

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Re: Van Halen Thread--2012 Tour Dates and New Album
« Reply #279 on: February 06, 2012, 02:10:49 AM »
What songs are in the official stream? Just wondering if they chose better songs or not.
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