Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One

[lonestar]

I know, right?? I didn't even think about it till Hef pointed it out. Thanks Hef, now my day is fucked....

[bosk1]

Star Wars is now officially dead to me.

[bosk1]

I'm pretty sure that's just a belt.

Could be, but that isn't how it looks to me.  I guess we will find out eventually.

[hefdaddy42]

I know, right?? I didn't even think about it till Hef pointed it out. Thanks Hef, now my day is fucked....

Glad I could help.

[King Postwhore]

I know, right?? I didn't even think about it till Hef pointed it out. Thanks Hef, now my day is fucked....

Also, there is no Santa Claus.

[rumborak]

Santa was killed with that lightsaber.

[BlackInk]

You mean other than when you can see right through him and see the forest in front of him where you should instead see his torso?

Watch again and look right when he starts to crouch over.

Yeah I suspected that those were the "holes" you meant. But I also naturally assumed they were reflections on a belt as well.

[King Postwhore]

Santa was killed with that lightsaber.

By the Grinch.

[Xanthul]

Santa was killed with that lightsaber.

By the Grinch.

Darth Grinch? It does sound like a George Lucas villain.

[Kotowboy]

I just realized something awful.

Since Disney will distribute these films from now on, we will no longer get the 20th Century Fox fanfare before the main title music.

 

Ok.

Great addition to the topic Kotow.

You too.

I was doing a "Hef".

[Kotowboy]

I'm pretty sure that's just a belt.

Could be, but that isn't how it looks to me.  I guess we will find out eventually.

I zoomed in on it and it's 100% a belt.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

I suppose that having the equally nostalgic Disney fanfare could soften the blow of no longer having the Fox fanfare.

[Cool Chris]

I imagined JJ would. He's a fan first and knows what other fans want.

I never like that rationale for filmaking. Being a fan doesn't necessarily mean you are going to make a superior film. Bringing your potential biases in to it can be a good thing, but it can be a bad thing as well. Art needs to have some level of objectivity.

[TioJorge]

Moving on from "is it a hilt or is it a sub-textual religion reference!?" to "is it a hole or is it a belt!?"

This is DTF, mofos. Love it.

[bosk1]

I imagined JJ would. He's a fan first and knows what other fans want.

I never like that rationale for filmaking. Being a fan doesn't necessarily mean you are going to make a superior film. Bringing your potential biases in to it can be a good thing, but it can be a bad thing as well. Art needs to have some level of objectivity.

You are right that being a fan doesn't necessarily mean one is going to make a superior film.  However, it can be a good indicator that, because of one's fandom and love for the original films, he will have a respect for the legacy of those films and would do his best to try to do justice to that by making good films going forward.  And if he has the talent to back that up, isn't that all fans could really ask for?  Doesn't desire to do justice to the films' legacy plus ability to make quality films equate to good potential for a positive result?

[ariich]

While we're at it:

Teaser recreated in Skyrim

My favourite bit was the Millenium Falcon.

[Kotowboy]

Moving on from "is it a hilt or is it a sub-textual religion reference!?" to "is it a hole or is it a belt!?"

This is DTF, mofos. Love it.

At least it's not the TOOL forum. They'd count how many seconds the trailer lasts and see if it is divisible by 666.

[TioJorge]

Oh, I actually was saying that I love it. That wasn't sarcastic.

Also, I just saw that tattoo... Yeesh. Couldn't even wait? What if in the next scene that dude gets stomped on by some crazy Star Wars monster? Or what if he smashes into a wall and explodes? Or if that's his only scene? He's a cool little dude, it's just.... Eh. I'm not sure why I'm surprised. Rabid fans of any sci-fi flick are the absolute worst. 

[Kotowboy]

You are right that being a fan doesn't necessarily mean one is going to make a superior film.  However, it can be a good indicator that, because of one's fandom and love for the original films, he will have a respect for the legacy of those films and would do his best to try to do justice to that by making good films going forward.  And if he has the talent to back that up, isn't that all fans could really ask for?  Doesn't desire to do justice to the films' legacy plus ability to make quality films equate to good potential for a positive result?

Case Closed.

[Fiery Winds]

I'm pretty sure that's just a belt.

Could be, but that isn't how it looks to me.  I guess we will find out eventually.

When playing the video back in YouTube, select the Settings button and lower the playback speed down to 0.25 during that section. It's pretty clear that it's a belt.

[Cool Chris]

…because of one's fandom and love for the original films, he will have a respect for the legacy of those films and would do his best to try to do justice to that by making good films going forward.

And how did that work out for Eps 1-3?

…And if he has the talent to back that up…

Yeah, if

[bosk1]

Yeah, I'm not sure Lucas meets either criteria.  He respects his ever-changing vision of what the legacy of the films should be, but does not seem to have much (if any) regard for how others value the legacy of the films.  And what he does not seem to get is that, ultimately, the legacy of the films is determined by the fans, not the creator. 

And the talent/ability to create good films...well, need I go any further? 

[Kotowboy]

JJ pretty much knows what he wants / thinks Star Wars to be.

Whereas - in the end - I don't think George Lucas even knew what he wanted SW to be.

[Cool Chris]

Whereas - in the end - I don't think George Lucas even knew what he wanted SW to be.

He did. It just changed drastically over time.  *


I fully agree with Bosk. I was being sarcastic that Lucas being the franchise's #1 fan would enable him to make the best possible SW film. Your point about the fans dictating the legacy is spot on.

I've said this before, but Nick Meyer is largely credited with saving the Star Trek franchise with Wrath of Khan after the mixed reception of TMP, and he knew nothing about Trek going in, other than it had a guy with pointy ears. So it can work both ways. 

And I just don't hold Abrams' work at the elevated level other people do. Nothing he has done has impressed me much, but that is limited to his big screen work.

Carry on.

* Noticably analagous to Gene R and Star Trek. It is both fortunate and a little sad that Paramount basically uninvited Gene to be involved in Trek movies post-TMP. Sad that it was necessary, fortunate as Gene had lost touch with Trek and his creative juices had diminished over time. He, like Lucas, are greatly creative and imaginative. Not talented screenwriters and/or directors.

[BlobVanDam]

JJ pretty much knows what he wants / thinks Star Wars to be.

Yep, he even tested it twice on Star Trek movies.

Both Lucas and Roddenberry were visionaries who created great franchises, but both lost their way and became a bit stubborn about it being their way in the end.

Oh, I actually was saying that I love it. That wasn't sarcastic.

Also, I just saw that tattoo... Yeesh. Couldn't even wait? What if in the next scene that dude gets stomped on by some crazy Star Wars monster? Or what if he smashes into a wall and explodes? Or if that's his only scene? He's a cool little dude, it's just.... Eh. I'm not sure why I'm surprised. Rabid fans of any sci-fi flick are the absolute worst. 

I don't think it's exclusively a scifi thing, but it's pretty sad. If you're going to get something permanently inked onto your body, give it some damn thought first, at least wait until you've seen the movie. Maybe the robot ends up being the new Jar Jar. Then how would you feel? I think the idiot just wanted to get in first, without thinking it through. At least it's a pretty well done tattoo.

[Cool Chris]

Also, I just saw that tattoo...Or what if he smashes into a wall and explodes? Or if that's his only scene?

The robot/droid would become the Charlie Dominici of the SW Universe


Yes, I know we poke fun at Charlie's tattoo, not that he was actually a tattoo himself... but the analogy made me chuckle

[TioJorge]

Yeah, definitely not a sci/fi exclusive thing, I was just poking fun. Any rabid fans are the worst, really; at least when they're daft enough to get a tat so quickly when they've seen a minute long trailer with a split-second image of a character.

That said, I am looking forward most to seeing all the new flora and fauna of the SW universe in a new light.

Also, rumors of Serkis playing MULTIPLE mo-capped characters!? The man is insanely talented, I could see it happening. I've really come to respect how the mo-cap...er...'genre' (?) works and watching him behind the scenes shows that it's truly a grueling, time-consuming process.

[MetalJunkie]

Yeah, definitely not a sci/fi exclusive thing, I was just poking fun. Any rabid fans are the worst, really; at least when they're daft enough to get a tat so quickly when they've seen a minute long trailer with a split-second image of a character.

My thought was, worst-case scenario, the Empire is racially cleansing and that droid is out to kill that black stormtrooper. Then that tat guy would totally be an ass.

[JayOctavarium]

Yeah, definitely not a sci/fi exclusive thing, I was just poking fun. Any rabid fans are the worst, really; at least when they're daft enough to get a tat so quickly when they've seen a minute long trailer with a split-second image of a character.

My thought was, worst-case scenario, the Empire is racially cleansing and that droid is out to kill that black stormtrooper. Than that tat guy would totally be an ass.

[MetalJunkie]

Blizzard just posted this on twitter.

[JayOctavarium]

Ha

[RaiseTheKnife]

I just realized something awful.

Since Disney will distribute these films from now on, we will no longer get the 20th Century Fox fanfare before the main title music.

 

Yeah, this was one of the first things that went through my mind when I heard about the Disney acquisition.  Gonna feel strange, no doubt.

[BlackInk]

Opening with the Disney castle this time, I feel like I will subconsciously take this movie less seriously than I would have otherwise.

[Orbert]

Same here.

[rumborak]

I don't think it's exclusively a scifi thing, but it's pretty sad. If you're going to get something permanently inked onto your body, give it some damn thought first

Like this guy?