New DT Live Album/DVD?

[BlobVanDam]

Considering JR's opinion of metal, I'm pretty sure he just meant the recent really heavy stuff.

[Jamariquay]

Jordan said in an interview a while back that they were trying to stay away from darker songs "Like A Nightmare To Remember" on this tour. Then again, that was before they played The Dark Eternal Night, so who knows.

The Dark Eternal Night isn't really a "dark" song. It's heavy and has dark lyrics, but it feels much more upbeat than "A Nightmare to Remember".

I'd say the Dark Eternal Night is pretty darn dark.

For something to be dark, it has to be taken seriously.  TDEN is basically impossible to take seriously.

But the grotesque creatures!

They battle.

[darkshade]

TDEN is no darker than BITS. It's just heavy and thrashy.

Now Repentence, that's a dark song. Or some stuff on Awake.

[angelillo]

I honestly don't see TCOT being played in the rest of this tour. I like TCOT btw... . Althought I do expect some changes in setlist in particular the "old" songs, TCOT is too long, and as they are playing a lot of ADTOE I think it will be difficult to include it.

What I would like is a 2 concert set release with:

- one show from the 2011 European summer tour (Ideally High Voltage Festival).

- one concert focusing more on the ADTOE songs (wherever it will be filmed).

[Tis BOOLsheet]

I certainly hope not. Jordan said it's possible they'd play Lost Not Forgotten on a future show on this tour. I hope they play that and another great song.

[Olibu]

Honestly I really do hope that they put TCOT on there. It's about the only song that I'm really hoping for, oddly.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

Honestly I really do hope that they put TCOT on there. It's about the only song that I'm really hoping for, oddly.

[Olibu]

Honestly I really do hope that they put TCOT on there. It's about the only song that I'm really hoping for, oddly.

To be more descriptive, of the songs that have not been released on a DVD yet, it's the only one I really want to be played, and because it's DT I don't really have a preference on the rest, the vast majority is good.

[ResultsMayVary]

It's actually a really good song with the exception of bewteen 4:00-9:00 (roughly). The intro, ambient section, and ending are pretty damn awesome.

[Dreamer81]

if they record an asian show (the rumours hint at that), when the DVD will hit the store...1-2 months after?

[lyfeternl]

if they record an asian show (the rumours hint at that), when the DVD will hit the store...1-2 months after?

Which rumors are these...? The last I heard, rumors were pointing towards a South American recording...

[ResultsMayVary]

if they record an asian show (the rumours hint at that), when the DVD will hit the store...1-2 months after?

Which rumors are these...? The last I heard, rumors were pointing towards a South American recording...

+1

[Tis BOOLsheet]

Well if DT is going to do a second US leg, isn't it possible the DVD is done in the US?

[lyfeternl]

I honestly don't care where it is filmed, so long that it IS filmed.

Hell, they could perform in Antarctica for all I care...I just wants a DVD to capture the new album and MM

[traben182]

I honestly don't care where it is filmed, so long that it IS filmed.

Hell, they could perform in Antarctica for all I care...I just wants a DVD to capture the new album and MM

+1

[ResultsMayVary]

I honestly don't care where it is filmed, so long that it IS filmed.

Hell, they could perform in Antarctica for all I care...I just wants a DVD to capture the new album and MM

I just imagined DT playing to a crowd of 100,000 Penguins. 

[lyfeternl]

I honestly don't care where it is filmed, so long that it IS filmed.

Hell, they could perform in Antarctica for all I care...I just wants a DVD to capture the new album and MM

I just imagined DT playing to a crowd of 100,000 Penguins. 

March of the Penguins sequel...featuring Morgan Freeman for guest backing vocals and narration between each song on the setlist

[BlobVanDam]

I honestly don't care where it is filmed, so long that it IS filmed.

Hell, they could perform in Antarctica for all I care...I just wants a DVD to capture the new album and MM

I just imagined DT playing to a crowd of 100,000 Penguins. 

March of the Penguins sequel...featuring Morgan Freeman for guest backing vocals and narration between each song on the setlist

Morgan Freeman doing the MP verse of ANTR. BAM. Section redeemed with epicness.

[Setlist Scotty]

Haven't been following this thread much lately and I'm just catching up, but there is something I need to address:

MP controlled the setlists before he left and since he had a vocal part, that's probably why they played it a lot, because MP favored it. Now that JP and the guys make the setlists, they haven't played it. Combined with the fact that the guys don't "love" the song, I'd say the Count is favored by the band and you're more likely to see it on the DVD than Nightmare.

The statement above makes it appear that MP was selfishly biased when putting together the setlists, which is completely baseless. Take a look at the setlists from 2009-2010. The song most played was ARoP, so by your reasoning above, MP must have favored that song above all others, which we all know is not the case. While there were a handful of European summer 2009 shows that the band did play ANtR (along with ARoP), for the rest of the tour (not including the opening slots for Maiden), ANtR, ARoP and TCoT were played equally because they were all from the (then) latest album which they were supporting. Take a look at any tour and you'll see there was *always* a core group of songs from the latest album that were featured at most if not all shows on a given tour (AIA/TDS/ES/ItNoG on Train of Thought tour, ItPoE/CM/TDEN on Chaos in Motion tour, etc).

MP was good at mixing things up - while he probably had certain songs that he favored, he didn't allow that bias to factor in to the setlists (for instance, if MP was biased, theoretically HTF should have featured in every ToT setlist, which it did not). The only songs that rarely got played were typically the ones that didn't get much of a reaction from the fans (Majesty demos, some of WDaDU), songs that distinctly identified as being from a former member (SDVest, Anna Lee), songs that were the result of a bad experience in writing/recording (YNM, TAMP) or songs that he specifically wanted set aside as rarely performed (Disappear).

So did MP prefer ANtR over TCoT? Perhaps, but your setlist theory doesn't prove this. That TCoT has been performed on the current tour and ANtR hasn't might have more merit as to suggesting that the rest of band prefers TCoT. Then again, maybe not - after all, the band dropped TGD, not because they didn't like the song, but because it wasn't getting much of a reaction from the fans. So maybe at least one or two members do like ANtR as much as TCoT or more, but the band simply just opted not to do it on this tour. Until someone asks each one point blank whether they prefer one or the other, all of this is just speculation.

[YtseCullen]

So to chime in on the South America crowd volume isn't good conversation, I Just watched Iron Maiden En Vivo in Chile, if DT mixes they're performance similar to the way this one is in terms of crowd noise and music, then I think South America the best possible place to record a show. The emotion you see in the crowd is insane and the energy the band has is in a crowd like that is insane. If the band mixes everything well this should be one hell of a killer live release.

[lyfeternl]

So to chime in on the South America crowd volume isn't good conversation, I Just watched Iron Maiden En Vivo in Chile, if DT mixes they're performance similar to the way this one is in terms of crowd noise and music, then I think South America the best possible place to record a show. The emotion you see in the crowd is insane and the energy the band has is in a crowd like that is insane. If the band mixes everything well this should be one hell of a killer live release.

Are you saying that you're hating on MP?!






Macaroni Penguins     

[ResultsMayVary]

Haven't been following this thread much lately and I'm just catching up, but there is something I need to address:

MP controlled the setlists before he left and since he had a vocal part, that's probably why they played it a lot, because MP favored it. Now that JP and the guys make the setlists, they haven't played it. Combined with the fact that the guys don't "love" the song, I'd say the Count is favored by the band and you're more likely to see it on the DVD than Nightmare.

The statement above makes it appear that MP was selfishly biased when putting together the setlists, which is completely baseless. Take a look at the setlists from 2009-2010. The song most played was ARoP, so by your reasoning above, MP must have favored that song above all others, which we all know is not the case. While there were a handful of European summer 2009 shows that the band did play ANtR (along with ARoP), for the rest of the tour (not including the opening slots for Maiden), ANtR, ARoP and TCoT were played equally because they were all from the (then) latest album which they were supporting. Take a look at any tour and you'll see there was *always* a core group of songs from the latest album that were featured at most if not all shows on a given tour (AIA/TDS/ES/ItNoG on Train of Thought tour, ItPoE/CM/TDEN on Chaos in Motion tour, etc).

That was hardly my point. Haha. My point was that MP must have preferred that particular song (ANTR) more than the other days did, since we haven't seen it enter the sets even though we know Mangini can and has played the song with the band before. My statement was a rather simple observation post and it had nothing to with MP besides the fact the band played it when he was in the band and haven't ever since.

And when I said TCOT was preferred by the band over ANTR, I referenced the current lineup as MP is not in the band. That shouldn't have caused any confusion considering the amount of press MP got after leaving the band last year. I'm not going to make a baseless assumption about what MP prefers without any data and/or evidence that could support a theory like that, which the ANTR theory I mentioned in the paragraph above this one actually has.

[hefdaddy42]

To be fair, this is the first tour without MP.  I don't think you can make that kind of judgement about one song (ANTR); there are tons of other songs that they also have neglected to play this tour.  Especially when, as you said, the band used that song during the drum auditions.  I don't think it would have been used there if they "didn't like it as much as MP did."

[Tomislav95]

New DVD will be filmed on North American tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgMelewSIOA

[Another_Won]

Awesome!  Sounds like they are going to film only one show.  I like this better than multiple shows.  Anyone want to speculate on which city?

[BlobVanDam]

Ugh, another US show?

[cyberdrummer]

Ugh, another US show?

[skydivingninja]

They should record in South America one of these days.  Get some crowd noise in there to make everything a bit more lively.

[robwebster]

New DVD will be filmed on North American tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgMelewSIOA

Called it! Excellent news.

Ugh, another US show?

This is all very vaguely remembered from a variety of second hand sources, so it might be utter guff, but I seem to remember that while they did hint at a South American recording, they've ended up bumping SA a little further down the tour schedule. Presumably due to some very mundane-but-crucial behind the scenes stuff. So I imagine they've moved the recording to North America so they can keep the DVD on schedule - edit as planned, release as planned, spend the studio time as planned, do the artwork as planned, mix and master as planned, etc. - despite the re-jigging of the tour.

Or that's my guess!

[Tomislav95]

How much time it usually takes beetwen show and DVD release?
This is going to be first live albume since I'm listening to DT

[dtvolos1]

I may have missed it, but I don't think that in the video he said in particular in which country they will film it.

[BlobVanDam]

After the rumours that it was going to be a South American gig, I'm really let down that it's just going to be the same old. A South American show would have been absolutely amazing.
Don't get me wrong, I'll be more than happy just to have a new live DVD, but they've had enough US DVDs already.

[robwebster]

Oh, totally, but that's logistics for you. They'll be every bit as conscious of that as we are - they recorded the bleeding things. Life is what happens to you when you're busy making plans.

[ZirconBlue]

Ugh, another US show?

Why do you hate America?

[BlobVanDam]

The band will sound just as amazing regardless, but I would have loved to see a pro-shot DVD/Bluray with that kind of different vibe. They've had so many live DVDs, so I want to see variety that showcases just how global their fanbase really is, especially with all of the new places they've continued to play!

Ugh, another US show?

Why do you hate America?

It's just not going to be anywhere near as cool as a South American show would have been. We've seen it before. We had Score, and Metropolis 2000. Do we really need yet another?