Coronavirus

[lonestar]

I just spent a few minutes browsing through a Facebook group called Millions March Against Mandatory Covid Vaccinations. The amount of fear mongering, misinformation, straight up bullshit, and hubris is unbelievable. And these are people from all over the world, they all seem to be middle class, and the group numbers over 20k.

Honestly, one way or another, I'm getting more and more convinced humanity is just fucked, and within a hundred years at the most. Between our response to Covid, our response to climate change, the wealth disparity and widespread world hunger, and our absolute inability to work together on anything, we're just fucked.

I'm gonna go pound a pint of ice cream now.

[TAC]

Oh shit. And I was just browsing through a Facebook group called Millions March Against Mandatory Ice Cream.

[lonestar]

Oh shit. And I was just browsing through a Facebook group called Millions March Against Mandatory Ice Cream.

Mandatory ice cream could save the world. Except for the lactose intolerant...those poor bastards.

[TAC]

Oh shit. And I was just browsing through a Facebook group called Millions March Against Mandatory Ice Cream.

Mandatory ice cream could save the world. Except for the lactose intolerant...those poor bastards.

Well, um...

But again...my question is....where is the personal responsibility of looking within yourself and not actually blaming someone else for your bodies illnesses.

 

[Lonk]

 

[darkshade]

I just spent a few minutes browsing through a Facebook group called Millions March Against Mandatory Covid Vaccinations. The amount of fear mongering, misinformation, straight up bullshit, and hubris is unbelievable. And these are people from all over the world, they all seem to be middle class, and the group numbers over 20k.

Honestly, one way or another, I'm getting more and more convinced humanity is just fucked, and within a hundred years at the most. Between our response to Covid, our response to climate change, the wealth disparity and widespread world hunger, and our absolute inability to work together on anything, we're just fucked.

I'm gonna go pound a pint of ice cream now.

You should pull up a history book or two while you do that. We've been fucked for thousands of years.

[lonestar]

Oh shit. And I was just browsing through a Facebook group called Millions March Against Mandatory Ice Cream.

Mandatory ice cream could save the world. Except for the lactose intolerant...those poor bastards.

Well, um...

But again...my question is....where is the personal responsibility of looking within yourself and not actually blaming someone else for your bodies illnesses.

 

[TAC]

WOW!

[lonestar]

Who fucking adds cheese to chocolate??

And learn how to flip a bird.

Hey, I balanced ice cream on my belly while flipping the bird and taking a pic, that's supreme level multitasking. And it's a west coast bird...we're different out here.

And cheesecake ice cream is fucking bomb. One day your taste buds will go through puberty.

[wolfking]

I saw that Ben and Jerry flavour over here for the first time last week and flipped out.  It's fucking amazing, instant top 3.  I'm a sucker for cheesecake though, but this is perfect.

[wolfking]

Who fucking adds cheese to chocolate??

And learn how to flip a bird.

Hey, I balanced ice cream on my belly while flipping the bird and taking a pic, that's supreme level multitasking. And it's a west coast bird...we're different out here.

And cheesecake ice cream is fucking bomb. One day your taste buds will go through puberty.

Quoted for truth.

[SwedishGoose]

One dose of Pfizer in the arm... feeling fine

[Stadler]

I forget if I wrote this or not (I think I did then deleted it) but I saw Gov't Mule and Ann Wilson last night in New Haven.  Got a couple beers, a pizza from Moderne, and went to see the show (outdoor former tennis arena).  It was awesome.  I wore my mask whenever I couldn't social distance, but I'll be honest: it was stressful.   It wasn't "back to normal" in the sense that it was always on my mind.  "Is this safe?"  "Am I stupid?".

By the way, Ann Wilson is the bomb.   I love that woman.

I was literally just listening to her interview with Marc Maron that dropped today.  Her new album is out on Friday - I assume she played a bunch?  How was it?

FTR, you were safe and you weren't stupid.  That's the beauty of being vaccinated.   

It was awesome, because I'm a fan boy*, but it was, in hindsight, weird.   The Mule played for an hour, and took a 15 minute break.  She came on with them for set two, and played four Zeppelin songs, one Tom Petty song and one Heart song.  Nothing from her solo album.   Then she left, the Mule played three more songs, and a one song encore.  It was great, don't misunderstand, but it didn't make sense, really, not in the context of the show.   

I didn't know she had an album coming out; I hope she tours, so I can see her solo.  Last time she toured solo she played a theater near me where I can usually get decent (sometimes excellent) seats.  I'd pay for first couple rows to hear her sing.

*  It was an outdoor show at a former tennis arena in New Haven.  My seats were on the side, obstructed view, but we moved over to the front row of the bowl, directly across from the stage.   I'm not a yeller or anything like that that would call attention to myself, but when she walked out it was still light and the crowd was pretty mellow.  She walked up to the mic and I yelled out (as a joke to my friend) "I love you Ann!" and waved, and she waved back.   Well, she waved, and the timing is such that I can with a clean conscience, say she was waving at me.     

[Stadler]

I just spent a few minutes browsing through a Facebook group called Millions March Against Mandatory Covid Vaccinations. The amount of fear mongering, misinformation, straight up bullshit, and hubris is unbelievable. And these are people from all over the world, they all seem to be middle class, and the group numbers over 20k.

Honestly, one way or another, I'm getting more and more convinced humanity is just fucked, and within a hundred years at the most. Between our response to Covid, our response to climate change, the wealth disparity and widespread world hunger, and our absolute inability to work together on anything, we're just fucked.

I'm gonna go pound a pint of ice cream now.

Not telling you how to react - though ice cream is as good as any reaction, especially cheesecake ice cream - but 20k worldwide is not critical mass numbers.   I get the dangers of misinformation - many of my posts are intended as a response to that - but given that we can't eradicate EVERY falsehood, I'm good with "20k" out of "7.4 billion". 

[Stadler]

I did my part!

[Chino]

I did my part!

Same! I can't wait to catch a Yard Goats game this summer 

[lonestar]

I just spent a few minutes browsing through a Facebook group called Millions March Against Mandatory Covid Vaccinations. The amount of fear mongering, misinformation, straight up bullshit, and hubris is unbelievable. And these are people from all over the world, they all seem to be middle class, and the group numbers over 20k.

Honestly, one way or another, I'm getting more and more convinced humanity is just fucked, and within a hundred years at the most. Between our response to Covid, our response to climate change, the wealth disparity and widespread world hunger, and our absolute inability to work together on anything, we're just fucked.

I'm gonna go pound a pint of ice cream now.

Not telling you how to react - though ice cream is as good as any reaction, especially cheesecake ice cream - but 20k worldwide is not critical mass numbers.   I get the dangers of misinformation - many of my posts are intended as a response to that - but given that we can't eradicate EVERY falsehood, I'm good with "20k" out of "7.4 billion".

But that's just one group of what I'm assuming is many. And I'd bet really good money that a vast percentage of those members are middle or upper class white Americans, a country where getting vaccinated is so simple and available right now that we have the audacity to question it, our first world privilege shining brightly.

[Stadler]

I just spent a few minutes browsing through a Facebook group called Millions March Against Mandatory Covid Vaccinations. The amount of fear mongering, misinformation, straight up bullshit, and hubris is unbelievable. And these are people from all over the world, they all seem to be middle class, and the group numbers over 20k.

Honestly, one way or another, I'm getting more and more convinced humanity is just fucked, and within a hundred years at the most. Between our response to Covid, our response to climate change, the wealth disparity and widespread world hunger, and our absolute inability to work together on anything, we're just fucked.

I'm gonna go pound a pint of ice cream now.

Not telling you how to react - though ice cream is as good as any reaction, especially cheesecake ice cream - but 20k worldwide is not critical mass numbers.   I get the dangers of misinformation - many of my posts are intended as a response to that - but given that we can't eradicate EVERY falsehood, I'm good with "20k" out of "7.4 billion".

But that's just one group of what I'm assuming is many. And I'd bet really good money that a vast percentage of those members are middle or upper class white Americans, a country where getting vaccinated is so simple and available right now that we have the audacity to question it, our first world privilege shining brightly.

Without seeing the group, I won't argue that point.  I can certainly see that happening.

[cramx3]

a country where getting vaccinated is so simple and available right now that we have the audacity to question it, our first world privilege shining brightly.

This bothers me a lot. We may not be the best country in the world, I don't know how you measure that, but we certainly have the money and power to get every citizen vaccinated and yet, here we are.  It's truly astonishing and shows our first world privilege, and IMO how unintelligent we, as a nation, have become.  At this point, I will just point at India and South America as good examples of what happens when you don't have access to vaccines. Sadly, even the real time death tolls we are seeing don't even move the needle. 

[Harmony]

Wrong thread

[cramx3]

Today's stats:

So far, 148 million Americans have received at least one dose of a vaccine. At least 106 million people have completed a vaccination regimen.

39,938 positives reported yesterday compared to 47,741 week over week. 7-day rolling average is at 50,665

Fatality was 445 compared to 312 yesterday and 472 week over week, 7-day rolling fatality at 716.

Hospitalizations reported 7 day rolling average is 34,012 compared to one week ago 38,441 down 11.5%.

Hospital admissions reported 7 day rolling average is 4,626 compared to one week ago 5321 down 13.1%.

The numbers are dropping, sharply this week although I believe Monday/Tuesday numbers are always low due to states inconsistent reporting, but generally, the numbers are going down and the April "spike" is likely already over.

The proof is in the pudding, vaccines work.  https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-nearing-vaccine-tipping-point-100120417.html

[hunnus2000]

So if a bracelet were made available showing people that you have been vaccinated, would you wear one out in public? I know I would.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/05/business/immunaband-restaurant-covid-vaccination-trnd/index.html

[cramx3]

So if a bracelet were made available showing people that you have been vaccinated, would you wear one out in public? I know I would.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/05/business/immunaband-restaurant-covid-vaccination-trnd/index.html

Nope.

[bosk1]

Not sure.  My initial reaction is "no."  I think there are a lot of problems with something like that.  But on the other hand, if it made others around me more comfortable and I felt like they, as a whole, would want me to, I might consider it for the sake of putting others at ease.

[TAC]

My first reaction is that it's just another "divider". We'll go from "hey that guy isn't wearing a mask" to "hey that guy doesn't have a bracelet on".

[lordxizor]

So if a bracelet were made available showing people that you have been vaccinated, would you wear one out in public? I know I would.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/05/business/immunaband-restaurant-covid-vaccination-trnd/index.html

Hell no. It's no ones business if I've been vaccinated or not.

[bosk1]

My first reaction is that it's just another "divider". We'll go from "hey that guy isn't wearing a mask" to "hey that guy doesn't have a bracelet on".

I think you might be right about that.

[Adami]

I’d say no.

I’d recommend carrying around the vaccine card or maybe a mobile pass that isn’t on display unless you choose to show it.

[jingle.boy]

I’d say no.

I’d recommend carrying around the vaccine card or maybe a mobile pass that isn’t on display unless you choose to show it.

This right here.  No need to advertise / publicize it, but (just like I had for my kids growing up) a vaccine card isn't unreasonable (imo) for situations where it may be a requirement to provide demonstration (eg, air travel, concerts, sporting events ...)

[gmillerdrake]

So if a bracelet were made available showing people that you have been vaccinated, would you wear one out in public? I know I would.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/05/business/immunaband-restaurant-covid-vaccination-trnd/index.html

Nope. Just asking for a fight either verbally or physically. There are plenty of people out there who would go out of their way to let you know how 'dumb' you are for getting a vaccine.

[ariich]

Not sure.  My initial reaction is "no."  I think there are a lot of problems with something like that.  But on the other hand, if it made others around me more comfortable and I felt like they, as a whole, would want me to, I might consider it for the sake of putting others at ease.

I like this thinking, and if I were to do it I feel this would be the reason. But the arguments against are also good.

[Chino]

I think the general public wearing them would never work in a million years, but I don't entirely hate the idea of a business owner with a lot of public-facing employees to maybe want something like this.

[lonestar]

I got my whole medical records available on my phone at the touch of a button, so no.


Plus bracelets are fucking annoying to wear.

[hunnus2000]

Those of you who gave reasons, I completely concur.

To me - I think it's a good thing that is no different than wearing a necklace that tells whether your diabetic or whatever affliction you have that helps a first responder. But yes, it would certainly be weaponized by others and confrontations would certainly occur.

I think it would put a lot of people at ease and it would certainly put me at ease as well.

[Stadler]

But this is the downside of the "attack" culture we live in.  I've got a plastic cover - if anyone has ever been to a convention or whatever where you have the name tag pinned to your lapel, you know what I'm talking about - and my card in there.   I'm absolutely wearing a bracelet, or a neck lanyard, or whatever, because whatever "medical records" I own, they CLEARLY aren't respected by those who believe the vaccine is not optional, and I'm not interested in confrontations if I, fully vaccinated (as of earlier this week) walk in somewhere and some righteous do-gooder decides to get uppity. 

If MY medical records are no one's business, then that applies both ways:  it would follow that you (general, no one here) do not get to tell me what ought to be ON those medical records.  That's clearly not how we work here - if someone runs a store, they are entitled to tell me to leave if I'm not masked up/distanced/vaccinated - so I'm going to proceed accordingly.