He just sounded not engaged and motivated...on our second attempt he said he had hardly woken up when we talked, and was a bit grumpy. At one point I asked him about the tour dates and his response was not as exciting as I expected. It's all good though, he got better as we moved on, but when he listened to it he said "let's try again". Like I said, the whole experience was quite surreal... I was on the way home, stopped to buy groceries, checked my phone and there was Derek saying "hey, call me when ready". Very cool!