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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3535 on: February 23, 2018, 06:17:25 AM »
Is Hellraiser Leipzig a club or a festival? I thought it was a club?
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3536 on: February 23, 2018, 09:59:02 AM »
So....


I was thinking about this yesterday....

I'd love to see Sons and Haken tour together. But if it ever happened, who would headline?  Haken is the bigger band, but would Mike and Dereks' egos allow that? lol
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3537 on: February 23, 2018, 10:03:02 AM »
Mike opening for any band that isn't Rush/Metallica/Maiden... lol. Good luck with that.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3538 on: February 23, 2018, 10:08:45 AM »
Mike opening for any band that isn't Rush/Metallica/Maiden... lol. Good luck with that.

I wouldn't necessarily assume that.  If he were still in DT, I agree that that would likely be the general rule.  But that is because DT has earned that status, and not because of Mike's ego.  Mike is a smart businessman.  I think he understands that SoA isn't a name yet (although he surely feels they will be eventually; time will tell whether that happens or not).  I think as long as he felt it was a good pairing that would reach the type of audience they are aiming for, he would have no problem opening.  I'm just speculating a bit, but from everything I know, I'm reasonably confident in that position.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3539 on: February 23, 2018, 10:11:55 AM »
Mike opening for any band that isn't Rush/Metallica/Maiden... lol. Good luck with that.

I wouldn't necessarily assume that.  If he were still in DT, I agree that that would likely be the general rule.  But that is because DT has earned that status, and not because of Mike's ego.  Mike is a smart businessman.  I think he understands that SoA isn't a name yet (although he surely feels they will be eventually; time will tell whether that happens or not).  I think as long as he felt it was a good pairing that would reach the type of audience they are aiming for, he would have no problem opening.  I'm just speculating a bit, but from everything I know, I'm reasonably confident in that position.

I agree, I was just poking fun. Didn't Adrenaline Mob open up for Creed or something?
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3540 on: February 23, 2018, 10:16:55 AM »
Mike opening for any band that isn't Rush/Metallica/Maiden... lol. Good luck with that.

I wouldn't necessarily assume that.  If he were still in DT, I agree that that would likely be the general rule.  But that is because DT has earned that status, and not because of Mike's ego.  Mike is a smart businessman.  I think he understands that SoA isn't a name yet (although he surely feels they will be eventually; time will tell whether that happens or not).  I think as long as he felt it was a good pairing that would reach the type of audience they are aiming for, he would have no problem opening.  I'm just speculating a bit, but from everything I know, I'm reasonably confident in that position.

I agree, DT co headlined with Queensryche in 2003. Therfor every other night DT opened for QR

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3541 on: February 23, 2018, 10:36:07 AM »
Mike opening for any band that isn't Rush/Metallica/Maiden... lol. Good luck with that.

I wouldn't necessarily assume that.  If he were still in DT, I agree that that would likely be the general rule.  But that is because DT has earned that status, and not because of Mike's ego.  Mike is a smart businessman.  I think he understands that SoA isn't a name yet (although he surely feels they will be eventually; time will tell whether that happens or not).  I think as long as he felt it was a good pairing that would reach the type of audience they are aiming for, he would have no problem opening.  I'm just speculating a bit, but from everything I know, I'm reasonably confident in that position.

I agree, DT co headlined with Queensryche in 2003. Therfor every other night DT opened for QR

Close.  DT closed basically every night east of the Mississippi and vice versa.  So, yeah, basically right, but it wasn't literally swapping "every other night."  They basically did the same thing the summer before the QR tour when they co-headlined with Satch and had King's X opening. 

But just to put that in context with Mike's comments about them probably not doing many other "opening" slots if they weren't for a small handful of bands (Maiden, Metallica, Rush), I believe that comment was made a few years AFTER the TOT and, if I'm not mistaken, Octavarium tours (I don't remember for certain whether the latter is true, but I think so), which would have been AFTER that comment and after they would have headlined the Budokan and, if my memory is correct on the timing, Radio City as well.  So I think he said that in the context of them basically having achieved a level of success that would have justified the comments.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3542 on: February 23, 2018, 11:25:03 AM »
I'd love to see Sons and Haken tour together. But if it ever happened, who would headline?  Haken is the bigger band, but would Mike and Dereks' egos allow that? lol

Are they?  I think it's too early to judge, but playing 500 capactiy venues on SoA first run is what Haken has done on their tours of the US.  Now SoA are playing larger venues.  On the other side, Haken has more music and been around so they may be a more known band name, but not sure they are a bigger band.  Also, SoA Coming Home music video has over 1 million views on youtube, none of the Haken videos have 1M.   That's not a be all/end all measurement, but something.

Otherwise, I'd love to see them tour together and I think Haken would be opening, but hopefully given a solid set length.

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3543 on: February 23, 2018, 11:58:56 AM »
Haken bores me to tears.  But judging from the Shattered Fortress tour, they have a very good live sound and energy, so I wouldn't mind at all seeing them on a bill with SoA. 
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« Reply #3544 on: February 23, 2018, 12:17:17 PM »
Mike opening for any band that isn't Rush/Metallica/Maiden... lol. Good luck with that.

I wouldn't necessarily assume that.  If he were still in DT, I agree that that would likely be the general rule.  But that is because DT has earned that status, and not because of Mike's ego.  Mike is a smart businessman.  I think he understands that SoA isn't a name yet (although he surely feels they will be eventually; time will tell whether that happens or not).  I think as long as he felt it was a good pairing that would reach the type of audience they are aiming for, he would have no problem opening.  I'm just speculating a bit, but from everything I know, I'm reasonably confident in that position.

I agree, DT co headlined with Queensryche in 2003. Therfor every other night DT opened for QR

Close.  DT closed basically every night east of the Mississippi and vice versa.  So, yeah, basically right, but it wasn't literally swapping "every other night."  They basically did the same thing the summer before the QR tour when they co-headlined with Satch and had King's X opening. 

But just to put that in context with Mike's comments about them probably not doing many other "opening" slots if they weren't for a small handful of bands (Maiden, Metallica, Rush), I believe that comment was made a few years AFTER the TOT and, if I'm not mistaken, Octavarium tours (I don't remember for certain whether the latter is true, but I think so), which would have been AFTER that comment and after they would have headlined the Budokan and, if my memory is correct on the timing, Radio City as well.  So I think he said that in the context of them basically having achieved a level of success that would have justified the comments.

Oh, I did not realize that. I know DT opened when I saw them at Universal Studios. That show got me back into QR. Seeing Fates Warning open for both of them was great as well. :)

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3545 on: February 23, 2018, 12:55:48 PM »
Haken bores me to tears.  But judging from the Shattered Fortress tour, they have a very good live sound and energy, so I wouldn't mind at all seeing them on a bill with SoA.

Exactly the same for me. I really don't connect with them, but I would absolutely enjoy seeing them live I think.
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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3546 on: February 23, 2018, 02:30:07 PM »
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« Reply #3547 on: February 23, 2018, 02:43:46 PM »
Just got my ticket for the NYC show!  W00-h00!  I love the PlayStation Theater.  :metal

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3548 on: February 23, 2018, 06:33:38 PM »
Haken bores me to tears.  But judging from the Shattered Fortress tour, they have a very good live sound and energy, so I wouldn't mind at all seeing them on a bill with SoA.

Exactly the same for me. I really don't connect with them, but I would absolutely enjoy seeing them live I think.

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« Reply #3549 on: February 23, 2018, 07:44:30 PM »
Haken's keyboard player is very charismatic and fun to watch on stage.  It made up for the two guitar players being virtual statues. :lol  But yeah, that Haken show was great! :hat

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« Reply #3550 on: February 23, 2018, 09:24:52 PM »
Haken's keyboard player is very charismatic and fun to watch on stage.  It made up for the two guitar players being virtual statues. :lol  But yeah, that Haken show was great! :hat

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Re: Sons of Apollo (feat. Portnoy & Sherinian)
« Reply #3551 on: February 24, 2018, 08:28:06 AM »
Mike opening for any band that isn't Rush/Metallica/Maiden... lol. Good luck with that.

I wouldn't necessarily assume that.  If he were still in DT, I agree that that would likely be the general rule.  But that is because DT has earned that status, and not because of Mike's ego.  Mike is a smart businessman.  I think he understands that SoA isn't a name yet (although he surely feels they will be eventually; time will tell whether that happens or not).  I think as long as he felt it was a good pairing that would reach the type of audience they are aiming for, he would have no problem opening.  I'm just speculating a bit, but from everything I know, I'm reasonably confident in that position.
This was my thoughts exactly. I would think that Mike’s top priotity is getting people to see and hear his band and if that means opening for another band, I think he would have no problem with that.  He always said in DT that the only bands they would open for were the Maiden/Metallica/Rush, but DT was/is much bigger than the bands he’s in now.

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« Reply #3552 on: February 24, 2018, 08:52:05 AM »
Haken may have a pretty big name right now but I doubt they're a bigger draw than SoA.  From the youtube vids I saw, Haken were playing smaller venues than SoA was.  The SoA show I was at was packed although it was a relatively small club, it wasn't tiny. 

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« Reply #3553 on: February 24, 2018, 09:00:43 AM »
I'd be stunned if Sons of Apollo drew a larger crowd than Haken.

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« Reply #3554 on: February 24, 2018, 09:14:47 AM »
Well, even though they released a mediocre record, Sons of Apollo has more name recognition in the band than Haken, so they had a head start right away, unlike Haken, who has had to build themselves up from the ground.

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« Reply #3555 on: February 24, 2018, 09:37:27 AM »
My gut feeling is that SoA would be a bigger draw (at least here in the US), but I could be wrong. I think it’s probably close though. If they were to tour together I don’t think it would be unreasonable for them to co-headline. Haken never really clicked with me, but seeing how well those guys nailed DT songs at TSF show was impressive.

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« Reply #3556 on: February 24, 2018, 12:21:45 PM »
I'm not opining whether Haken deserves the headlining spot more more or less, just that SoA at this point is a bigger draw.  Obviously a lot of that is due to name recognition.  A year and a half ago Haken played Reggies in Chicago.  400 capacity and they probably had 300 there.  Last week SoA played The Forge in Joliet, which is a bit of a haul from Chicago, yet they packed the place and capacity was a lot more, maybe by a couple hundred. 

I would imagine if they did a tour they would "co-headline" with SoA closing every night.

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« Reply #3557 on: February 24, 2018, 03:35:43 PM »
Haken is too good to be co-headlining with a band so inferior to them. :P

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« Reply #3558 on: February 24, 2018, 04:19:31 PM »
Haken is too good to be co-headlining with a band so inferior to them. :P
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« Reply #3559 on: February 24, 2018, 04:24:47 PM »
Haken is too good to be co-headlining with a band so inferior to them. :P
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« Reply #3560 on: February 24, 2018, 04:29:31 PM »
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« Reply #3561 on: February 24, 2018, 04:34:33 PM »
Haken is too good to be co-headlining with a band so inferior to them. :P
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« Reply #3563 on: February 24, 2018, 06:25:49 PM »
Haken shouldn't tour with these guys. Derek, in his many (failed) attempts to look cool by bashing DT, was making fun of Jordan's use of iPad apps, music software, other gadgets, etc.

Guess who uses the same iPad apps and gadgets as Jordan? Diego Tejeida of Haken.
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« Reply #3564 on: February 25, 2018, 02:38:34 AM »
Do we really need to point out that when someone makes a post, he's posting his opinion and not someone else's?  :lol
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« Reply #3565 on: February 25, 2018, 02:56:02 AM »
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« Reply #3566 on: February 26, 2018, 06:03:28 PM »
Was listening to Eddie Trunk’s show on yhe way home from work and after he switched back to music after taking some calls and played Coming Home from SoA, then Time Machine from TWD, then As I Am. I like all three songs and I know they’re friends, but just thought it was amusing that he’d play three straight MP songs.

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« Reply #3567 on: February 26, 2018, 06:08:31 PM »
^^ I mean it would make some sense if he had MP over as a guest and it would make sense to play stuff that MP was a part of.  If that was not the case, then I guess some good promotion for the upcoming SOA show in NYC?

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« Reply #3568 on: February 26, 2018, 06:18:34 PM »
^^ I mean it would make some sense if he had MP over as a guest and it would make sense to play stuff that MP was a part of.  If that was not the case, then I guess some good promotion for the upcoming SOA show in NYC?

It’s funny because after he played those songs I started to wonder if MP was a guest, but he wasn’t.

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« Reply #3569 on: February 26, 2018, 08:20:33 PM »
Eddie Trunk is cringe incarnate. He's like that awkward kid that hung out with the cool crowd to try and get some credibility by osmosis. Can't stand the guy