Star Trek: The Next Threaderation

[PowerSlave]

There are much worse episodes in the series. At least he didn't say that he liked a fistful of datas...

[Adami]

There are much worse episodes in the series. At least he didn't say that he liked a fistful of datas...

That is preferable. At least silly Data is entertaining on some level.

[PowerSlave]

There are much worse episodes in the series. At least he didn't say that he liked a fistful of datas...

That is preferable. At least silly Data is entertaining on some level.

For me, every time that one of the series tried to have a cowboys/western themed episode they failed miserably. One of the worst episodes of Enterprise (before it went of the rails towards the end) was cowboy/western themed as well. I can't remember the name of the specific episode, but it dealt with discrimination against an alien culture. It failed on every level.

[Polarbear]

There are much worse episodes in the series. At least he didn't say that he liked a fistful of datas...

Fistful of Datas is nothing compared to Naked Now from season 1, or that one in season 7 where Wesley drops out of starfleet to become a jedi master.

Those 2 episodes still make me want to vomit!

[Kotowboy]

I sigh a bit when I start watching an episode and realise it's going to be one of those episodes where something happens to a person...

...then when someone else investigates - it happens to them. And so on.


Oh look this starship is drifting and everyone on board died of old age.

YOU WONT BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT !!!!

[Kotowboy]

It was also one of those " it was all a hallucination " episodes yet they got the answers they needed within the hallucination and "saw" things that they shouldn't even know about.

I hate " it was all a dream " stories when we ( the audience ) see things that the protagonist inside the dream does not.

[Kotowboy]

.  TNG episode "Rascals" .

When they beam aboard the Enterprise and they're kids. Guinan's hat has shrunk too .

Would it be too weird to have them beam back as kids in full size uniforms ?

[Kotowboy]

Also - whenever the Enterprise has alien intruders - that capture the crew - I don't know why Picard or Riker can't just say

" Computer - beam all intruders to the brig "




They get captured so easily.

[Adami]

There are much worse episodes in the series. At least he didn't say that he liked a fistful of datas...

Fistful of Datas is nothing compared to Naked Now from season 1, or that one in season 7 where Wesley drops out of starfleet to become a jedi master.

Those 2 episodes still make me want to vomit!

At least The Naked Now had a hot Tasha Yar and Picard's awesome "Not now Beverly!".

[Orbert]

Ha ha, true!  That sound Picard makes when he *just about* loses his control -- sounds somewhere between a hrumph! and clearing his throat and maybe choking just a little bit -- is great.

I always thought Denise Crosby was medium-hot at best, but she does look good here.  And the best part of about her encounter with Data is the payoff, a season and a half later, when Data gets to tell Captain Louvois (the JAG lady) under oath that he and Tasha "were intimate" and we see just the tiniest squirm, more of a minor readjustment really, from her as she considers this.

[Kotowboy]

"The Drumhead".

Love these episodes. When someone is an absolutely horrible person and only wants to satisfy themselves and do anything to get it.


You really hate that person and love when it backfires on them.


Satie reminds me of that Bajoran bitch from DS9. You're supposed to hate them.

[Adami]

Ha ha, true!  That sound Picard makes when he *just about* loses his control -- sounds somewhere between a hrumph! and clearing his throat and maybe choking just a little bit -- is great.

Yea, Picard is really great in an otherwise horrible episode. I'd actually love to see that moment in the script. I just want to see what Sir Patrick read that made him say "Ah yes, I know exactly what sound to make".

[Kotowboy]

Another bitch in Silicon Avatar.

They do like writing uptight old women on Star Trek. 

[El Barto]

Also - whenever the Enterprise has alien intruders - that capture the crew - I don't know why Picard or Riker can't just say

" Computer - beam all intruders to the brig "


 

They get captured so easily.

I was always amused by how easy it was to steel a shuttlecraft. Even kids have no problem getting away.

"Sir, there'a an unauthorized shuttle launch in progress."
"Well stop it!"
"Too late sir."
"Seal the hangar bay doors!"
"Too late sir."
"Tractor beam."
"Too late, sir, he's out of range."
"Lay in a pursuit-"
"Main engines offline, sir."
"Arm photon torpedoes"
"He's gone to warp sir. We lost him."

[Orbert]

"Sir, there'a an unauthorized shuttle launch in progress."
"Well stop it!"
"Too late sir."
"Seal the hangar bay doors!"
"Too late sir."
"Tractor beam."
"Too late, sir, he's out of range."
"Lay in a pursuit-"
"Main engines offline, sir."
"Arm photon torpedoes"
"He's gone to warp sir. We lost him."

Yep.  Every time.   

[hefdaddy42]

 

[hefdaddy42]

‘Star Trek’ Comic-Con Panel: Actors From Every Series Promote New Show

That's interesting.  Hopefully the panel will give some actual information on the show, and not be a 50th Anniversary circle jerk.

[King Postwhore]

I like who they picked.

[hefdaddy42]

Smithsonian Channel will premiere a two-hour special in September about the efforts of teams at two U.S. museums to conserve artifacts from the “Star Trek” television series

That should be interesting.

[Adami]

I like who they picked.

Me too, but I have a feeling it's more of a "Hey guys, we'll pay you to go up there and promote the show that you know almost nothing about."

I hope it's more than that, not that I'll be able to see it anyway haha.

[King Postwhore]

Oh it is but I still love to hear the stories.

[Kotowboy]

Here's a question.

" The Inner Light ".

Would you prefer they'd stayed on the planet in Picard's head for the entire episode until the very end then the big reveal or jumping back and forth to the Enterprise like they did ?

I think having the entire episode on the planet would have been cool. It would have been like " How is this going to end ? ! "

[Orbert]

The ending is the only part of the episode that feels awkward.  I know what they were going for, but it doesn't quite work.  That said, I'm not sure having it be a "big reveal" would have been better.  It still comes down to how well it is written.

One thing I love about the way it's presented now is that first cut to what's happening on the Enterprise.  We've been following Picard as Kamin for a while already, but when they cut back to the Enterprise, Picard has just fallen and they're calling sick bay.  That threw me for a loop.  Then after years have passed on the planet, we cut back to the Enterprise and it's only been like ten minutes.  Kamin's life has been compressed, and Picard lives it in 25 minutes.  I like getting thrown like that, having to figure out what's going on instead of having everything spoon-fed to me.  Maybe that's what bugs me about the ending.  For the sake of the lowest common denominators out there, they have to completely explain everything.  I mean, come on.  Picard: "Oh... oh, it's me... isn't it? I'm the someone. I'm the one it finds. That's what this launching is – a probe that finds me in the future!"

It seems like they could have made it just a bit more interesting, have the viewer work at least some of it out themselves, which would lead to a sense of accomplishment and thus greater satisfaction in the story overall.

[Kotowboy]

Yeah we already know Picard is the one that the probe finds - we're reminded of it constantly.

[Kotowboy]

Also in " Starship Mine " when Data is imitating that talkative commander and he pokes Will Riker - it sounds like Frakes laughs for real.


EDIT : And it also stars Tim Russ as Not Tuvok.

[El Barto]

The ending is the only part of the episode that feels awkward.  I know what they were going for, but it doesn't quite work.  That said, I'm not sure having it be a "big reveal" would have been better.  It still comes down to how well it is written.

One thing I love about the way it's presented now is that first cut to what's happening on the Enterprise.  We've been following Picard as Kamin for a while already, but when they cut back to the Enterprise, Picard has just fallen and they're calling sick bay.  That threw me for a loop.  Then after years have passed on the planet, we cut back to the Enterprise and it's only been like ten minutes.  Kamin's life has been compressed, and Picard lives it in 25 minutes.  I like getting thrown like that, having to figure out what's going on instead of having everything spoon-fed to me.  Maybe that's what bugs me about the ending.  For the sake of the lowest common denominators out there, they have to completely explain everything.  I mean, come on.  Picard: "Oh... oh, it's me... isn't it? I'm the someone. I'm the one it finds. That's what this launching is – a probe that finds me in the future!"

It seems like they could have made it just a bit more interesting, have the viewer work at least some of it out themselves, which would lead to a sense of accomplishment and thus greater satisfaction in the story overall.

Yeah, I agree. The first cut-back to the enterprise was the mindfuck. Once that's done then the rest is just a nice story. And I think I've mentioned it before, but JLP winding up with the flute was a silly contrivance. How did they know to put it in the probe? What if he'd displayed a fondness for painting instead?

And Non-Tuvok shows up several times. I think he was on DS9 at some point, and also in one of the movies.

[Orbert]

Kamin's flute was a silly contrivance, but I like it.  Picard can now play that instrument because he lived Kamin's life.  That's a bit more of their culture living on than they'd bargained for.

[BlobVanDam]

And Non-Tuvok shows up several times. I think he was on DS9 at some point, and also in one of the movies.

Yep, he was a Klingon in the episode where they're trying to steal the Dax symbiote. And it was Generations he showed up in. He was also in the running to play the part of Geordi Laforge. I'm glad he didn't get that part, because he's so perfectly suited to playing Tuvok.

[Nefarius]

I wonder what we're going to get at Comic-Con, aside from a fun panel telling us how great it's gonna be.
A picture or video clip of a ship? Design concepts and test makeup of a new alien species? Cast names? Anything else?

Greetings...
Nef

[Kotowboy]

World Premiere in Sydney tonight !!

[Adami]

World Premiere in Sydney tonight !!

Of what?


Also, the new Sulu is gay, and ironically, George Takei is not a fan.


And last but not least, I was suddenly reminded of one of my favorite Data moments. "To know him was to love him, and to love him was to know him. Those who knew him, loved him, and those who didn't know him, loved him... from afar."

[BlobVanDam]

Also, the new Sulu is gay, and ironically, George Takei is not a fan.

I agree with Takei. I'm all for a gay character in the Trek universe, and expect and hope the new show addresses it, but tacking it onto an existing character with no history of being a gay character just because Takei is gay, is kind of lame. It appears as if it will be handled well enough, but the situation makes it feel token. They've had two whole movies already in the reboot to address this, but this wasn't even intended for reboot Sulu until now. They've tacked this in after the fact.
I have no problem with a gay character, or that it's Sulu, but this feels misplaced to me. That said, it doesn't really bother me. It's not like Sulu was a womanizer in TOS, or in the reboot, but they could have just as easily created a new gay character.

[Adami]

Also, the new Sulu is gay, and ironically, George Takei is not a fan.

I agree with Takei. I'm all for a gay character in the Trek universe, and expect and hope the new show addresses it, but tacking it onto an existing character with no history of being a gay character just because Takei is gay, is kind of lame. It appears as if it will be handled well enough, but the situation makes it feel token. They've had two whole movies already in the reboot to address this, but this wasn't even intended for reboot Sulu until now. They've tacked this in after the fact.
I have no problem with a gay character, or that it's Sulu, but this feels misplaced to me. That said, it doesn't really bother me. It's not like Sulu was a womanizer in TOS, or in the reboot, but they could have just as easily created a new gay character.

To be fair, it's not like him being gay will matter at all in the movie. There will be one scene where he either mentions his husband or introduces someone to his husband who will be like "woah...okay....fair enough" then that will be it.

[BlobVanDam]

I know. It's not going to affect the impending trainwreck one way or another.

[Orbert]

I agree with all that.