Star Trek: The Next Threaderation

[Kotowboy]

Pound Sterling.

£30 is $60 AUS...


How come if you lot are all British exports - How come you use the dollar ?

[BlobVanDam]

Why don't you use the Euro?

This kind of confusion is why they abolish currency on Earth in the future!

[Kotowboy]

So Writer Joe Menosky is writing for Star Trek 2017.

According to Blob - he's written some of the best episodes of TNG and Voyager.

[BlobVanDam]

He definitely worked on many of the best of Voyager, not sure on TNG, I don't remember it well enough. But definitely some good ones there too.
This is the first firmly positive news for the new series for me.

[El Barto]

He definitely worked on many of the best of Voyager, not sure on TNG, I don't remember it well enough. But definitely some good ones there too.
This is the first firmly positive news for the new series for me.

Dude wrote some very good episodes for all of the series. Dude also wrote some of the very worst episodes. For every episode I really like there's one that I can't stand to even think about.

TNG is split down the middle. Darmok, Clues, Conundrum are all great. Interface (Geordi's mom), In Theory (Data's girlfriend) and Emergence (the ship's computer evolves into sentience) are just terrible. Hell, he even wrote both halves of Times Arrow, which were great and awful respectively.

Same holds for Voyager. It's surprising to me that the same person who wrote Timeless, Blink of an Eye and Living Witness also wrote Distant Origin and The Thaw.

[BlobVanDam]

Oh sure, there are stinkers in there too, with Distant Origin being my personal most disliked episode of Voyager even over Threshold, but for me the list is more in his favour than against it. At the very least, it shows his potential. Many of my favourite Voyager episodes involve him, including Timeless, Blink of an Eye, Year of Hell, and Living Witness is also up there. This is actually the first news on the new series to really interest me on the new series.

[Progmetty]

Back after a little hiatus, watched Catspaw, awful episode

[BlobVanDam]

Wasn't that episode meant for halloween or something? Yeah, awful episode.

[Kotowboy]

Here's an easy question.

Lt. Saavik. Robin Curtis or Kirstie Alley?

[Kotowboy]

Secondly it seems the Axanar lawsuit is back on.

Seems the guy in charge of Axanar can't stop being a dick.

Can they make STContinues official instead ?

[Adami]

Secondly it seems the Axanar lawsuit is back on.

Seems the guy in charge of Axanar can't stop being a dick.

Can they make STContinues official instead ?

I honestly know just about nothing about this. Any chance someone can sum it up for me?

[El Barto]

Here's an easy question.

Lt. Saavik. Robin Curtis or Kirstie Alley?

Depends on what you're asking. If you're asking who's hotter, as is usually the case when somebody says Girl A or Girl B, then it's Kirstie Alley by a light year. Back in the day she was smoking hot. If it's who was the better Vulcan, neither of them were particularly good. Kirstie's Saavik seemd pretty clueless, though she made it look really good. Robin Curtis's was just bland. Had they actually made Valeris Saavik, as they intended, then Kim Catrall would be the easy pick. She was the best Vulcan.

[Orbert]

I agree with all of that.

[BlobVanDam]

Secondly it seems the Axanar lawsuit is back on.

Seems the guy in charge of Axanar can't stop being a dick.

Can they make STContinues official instead ?

Apparently they never actually dropped the lawsuit, but they were trying to settle it out of court. But the Axanar crew are idiots, and they deserve to get their asses run into the ground.
Star Trek Continues is the perfect example of how to run a fan film all around. Nothing but class and quality.

[Adami]

Secondly it seems the Axanar lawsuit is back on.

Seems the guy in charge of Axanar can't stop being a dick.

Can they make STContinues official instead ?

Apparently they never actually dropped the lawsuit, but they were trying to settle it out of court. But the Axanar crew are idiots, and they deserve to get their asses run into the ground.
Star Trek Continues is the perfect example of how to run a fan film all around. Nothing but class and quality.

So...Blob....care to summarize this stuff? I looked up the lawsuit, but I don't see why the Axanar guys are such douche bags. Insight pwease?

[BlobVanDam]

Secondly it seems the Axanar lawsuit is back on.

Seems the guy in charge of Axanar can't stop being a dick.

Can they make STContinues official instead ?

Apparently they never actually dropped the lawsuit, but they were trying to settle it out of court. But the Axanar crew are idiots, and they deserve to get their asses run into the ground.
Star Trek Continues is the perfect example of how to run a fan film all around. Nothing but class and quality.

So...Blob....care to summarize this stuff? I looked up the lawsuit, but I don't see why the Axanar guys are such douche bags. Insight pwease?

Well the lawsuit itself is mostly related to the standard IP stuff.
The reason they're douchebags is because they crowdfunded over a million dollars for their fan film so they could all get salaries for their work, and purchase a large studio to start their own scifi franchise, directly profiting off Star Trek's IP, and on social media they've done nothing but bag the shit out of Star Trek and talk about how much better their fan film is. After the lawsuit started, they made a rant about how they were only being sued because Axanar had the superior product and they didn't want competition, and claimed they were going to win the lawsuit with the best lawyers, and I think they even tried to counter sue, and in defense of the lawsuit itself, claimed their fan film didn't even resemble Star Trek's trademarks.

Basically, CBS/Paramount have been incredibly lenient with people crowdfunding fan film as long as there's transparency that it's all going directly towards equipment/supplies to make the film, and no profit is being made, and Axanar flagrantly disregarded that to profit from it, then bit the hand that feeds them.

Also, the guy in charge apparently has a long history of dodgy shit.

[Adami]

Just skimmed through "Prelude to Axanar" for a few minutes. They sure do like to film people talking from the side.


But it might be better than Into Darkness. 

[hefdaddy42]

lol

[Kotowboy]

Nothing is better than Into Darkness.

[BlobVanDam]

Nothing is better than Into Darkness.

You're right. Watching nothing would be preferable to watching Into Darkness.

[Kotowboy]

Nothing is better than Into Darkness.

You're right. Watching nothing would be preferable to watching Into Darkness.

Well done for not taking that obvious bait.

Oh.

[El Barto]

I generally disregard fan films since they usually look like high school productions. These guys actually made it look pretty good. I take it the Prelude thing is just a proof of concept. Where are they with the feature?


edit: Also, the uniforms don't match the ships. I take it this is after Enterprise but before TOS?

[Kotowboy]

Star Trek Renegades looked terrible and Koenig sounded like he really could not be bothered.

[Kotowboy]

Here's an easy question.

Lt. Saavik. Robin Curtis or Kirstie Alley?

Depends on what you're asking. If you're asking who's hotter, as is usually the case when somebody says Girl A or Girl B, then it's Kirstie Alley by a light year. Back in the day she was smoking hot. If it's who was the better Vulcan, neither of them were particularly good. Kirstie's Saavik seemd pretty clueless, though she made it look really good. Robin Curtis's was just bland. Had they actually made Valeris Saavik, as they intended, then Kim Catrall would be the easy pick. She was the best Vulcan.

I looked up Kirstie Alley and she looks ok for her age. But she's still a nut case.

[Polarbear]

Nothing is better than Into Darkness.

You're right. Watching nothing would be preferable to watching Into Darkness.

Honestly, i would watch Into Darkness a hundred times, before watching Generations, Insurrection or Nemesis ever again.

I haven't been following news about the new series, but i'm very excited to hear that Nicholas Meyer and Joe Menosky are involved with the project! That is a very good sign.

[Kotowboy]

Honestly, i would watch Into Darkness a hundred times, before watching Generations, Insurrection or Nemesis ever again.

THIS.

Even though I don't actually mind Generations or Nemesis. I enjoyed Into Darkness a LOT more and it has longevity for me.

Insurrection got old really quickly. As did Nemesis.

I was even really bored watching First Contact last time and I could put on Into Darkness like right now and watch it in full easily.

[El Barto]

Here's an easy question.

Lt. Saavik. Robin Curtis or Kirstie Alley?

Depends on what you're asking. If you're asking who's hotter, as is usually the case when somebody says Girl A or Girl B, then it's Kirstie Alley by a light year. Back in the day she was smoking hot. If it's who was the better Vulcan, neither of them were particularly good. Kirstie's Saavik seemd pretty clueless, though she made it look really good. Robin Curtis's was just bland. Had they actually made Valeris Saavik, as they intended, then Kim Catrall would be the easy pick. She was the best Vulcan.

I looked up Kirstie Alley and she looks ok for her age. But she's still a nut case.

Well, yeah, she's a Scientologist. That hasn't managed to help with her weight issues. However, I was definitely referring to back in the day. Back when she played Saavik she looked fantastic. Her first season on Cheers, as well.

[Kotowboy]

This was in January this year. At least she doesn't look like she's had loads of Botox .

[Kotowboy]

https://axamonitor.com/doku.php?id=faq


AXANAR LAWSUIT FAQ.

[King Postwhore]

Kirstie Alley is slightly off center that she would do things to you that would make Vulcans blush. 

[BlobVanDam]

Honestly, i would watch Into Darkness a hundred times, before watching Generations, Insurrection or Nemesis ever again.

Oh god, I'd rather claw my own ears and eyes out than be forced to watch ID a hundred times. Struggled to even do it once at the cinema, and couldn't manage it twice. Generations, Insurrection and Nemesis are all far superior films, even as bad as Nemesis is.

[Kotowboy]

Whereas I could easily watch it over Insurrection.

[El Barto]

Whereas I could easily watch it over Insurrection.

I watched Insurrection a couple of weeks ago, along with a couple of the other crappy movies. Couldn't bring myself to watch Nemisis. Started it. Skipped to three random points in the movie. Decided I'd rather watch nothing.

All things considered Insurrection winds up somewhere in the middle. It's certainly ahead of Nemesis and that ST-V nonsense, and possibly First Contact, as well.

[Kotowboy]

The last time I threw on Nemesis I ended up enjoying it a lot more than i was expecting.

I can never sit through Insurrection.

My favourite TNG movie is actually Generations. It has a warmth in both tone and colour palette and is dripping with emotion throughout whereas First Contact is kinda cold and dark and sterile

compared and there's not much emotional content.

[El Barto]

I never got dripping with emotion out of Generations. It's alright, but it also seemed a bit contrived. Some fan-wank in there, I think. Crashing the Enterprise. Bringing back those idiotic Klingon sisters to be secondary bad guys. Data with the emotion chip. It just seemed a little heavy-handed in making sure it didn't come off as a normal TNG.