Star Trek: The Next Threaderation

[Kotowboy]

I thought so too. I've read a lot of quotes from Lin and Pegg recently and they both say a lot of positive stuff.

Both of them were like " It's not the trailer I would have chosen and it doesn't represent the film at all. "

[jingle.boy]

I've read a lot over the last few days which makes me look forward to it - but whatever.  I'm done. I'm not posting here again until i've seen the film.

hhmmm... only took 8 posts, and 14 hours.  Welcome back.

[Kotowboy]

Someone said something I actually agreed with.

[hefdaddy42]

I've read a lot over the last few days which makes me look forward to it - but whatever.  I'm done. I'm not posting here again until i've seen the film.

hhmmm... only took 8 posts, and 14 hours.  Welcome back.

lol

[Kotowboy]

Remember it's not about me.

[hefdaddy42]

Remember it's not about me.

Only when you make it that way.

[Kotowboy]

Here's a fun little task for Hef, El Barto and Blob.

List all the things you enjoyed about Star Trek (2009) and Into Darkness.

I set this challenge once before when Into Darkness came out after i'd listed all the problems with which I agreed with.

Nobody took me up on it then. And will probably just brush it off now.

[Implode]

I've read a lot over the last few days which makes me look forward to it - but whatever.  I'm done. I'm not posting here again until i've seen the film.

hhmmm... only took 8 posts, and 14 hours.  Welcome back.

I think we all should know by now that when someone on the internet says, "I'm done. I'm going to stop posting," the best response is, "Okay. See you tomorrow!"

[jingle.boy]

I've read a lot over the last few days which makes me look forward to it - but whatever.  I'm done. I'm not posting here again until i've seen the film.

hhmmm... only took 8 posts, and 14 hours.  Welcome back.

I think we all should know by now that when someone on the internet says, "I'm done. I'm going to stop posting," the best response is, "Okay. See you tomorrow!"

Unless Hef grants their wishes, and perma bans them.

Ok, what did I like about the first 2 ST movies:

2009:
- revived a franchise that I love
- casting of Quinto for Spock; Urban for Bones; Pegg for Scotty
- the emotional scene of Hemsworth/Kirk Sr sacrificing himself
- Bana's performance, and the Nemo's singular focus on revenge no matter the cost
- Rachel Nichols half naked (despite being green)

Into Darkness
- the special effects during the action sequences
- the cinematography on the opening planet
- Carol 1/2 naked
- Khan kicking ass on Kronos
- Cumberbatch's performance

That's about it.

[hefdaddy42]

*brushes it off*

[El Barto]

That's actually encouraging. Thanks, Implode!

I agree. It looked he like was trying to be diplomatic, but really thought the trailer shit all over them. I'm still not hugely enthusiastic, but mostly because I think what I want just isn't possible in the current paradigm. Nevertheless, he did seem to be implying that there were a lot more elements that I've been missing that weren't in the first two.

[Kotowboy]

I don't know about anyone else but that trailer just shouted TOS to me. Albeit with a huge budget AND it also said " This isn't Into Darkness ".

[El Barto]

Here's a fun little task for Hef, El Barto and Blob.

List all the things you enjoyed about Star Trek (2009) and Into Darkness.

I set this challenge once before when Into Darkness came out after i'd listed all the problems with which I agreed with.

Nobody took me up on it then. And will probably just brush it off now.

I think I already did. Since it was a pretty short list you might not have noticed it. I really enjoyed the characterizations of the principle cast. I think Pine, Quinto and Urban are great as the characters they play. I also liked a lot of the dialog. The writers can't write a good screenplay to save their lives, but somebody on that team has a nice way with words. I also thought there was some good humor in them; particularly the first one. As I've stated on numerous occasions, I can watch one or both of them while skipping over about 50% or so of the content and enjoy it quite a bit. There's not much story left, but the stories weren't very good to begin with. As a collection of various interactions between those three it's perfectly entertaining.

[El Barto]

- casting of Quinto for Spock; Urban for Bones; Pegg for Scotty

You didn't care for Pine? He was a little too over the top, but then so is Kirk. He's the character that has to get the most development, and even though I don't see that happening, if we do get to see the swagger Pine gives him combined with the seriousness Kirk puts into his responsibilities it'll be a damn fine characterization. I saw the bits and pieces there early on.

[Kotowboy]

Pine's most Kirk moment from Into Darkness :

" You, Happy? "

[hefdaddy42]

I didn't care for Pine or Pegg.

I thought Quinto and Urban were spot on.

[King Postwhore]

I don't mind Pine at all.  I like him in fact.  Pegg was a little to over the top but not that is turned me off.

[jingle.boy]

I don't mind Pine at all.  I like him in fact.  Pegg was a little to over the top but not that is turned me off.

I agree about Pegg.  Pine, I thought did a horrible job resurrecting Kirk.

Urban>Quinto >>> Pegg >>>>>Yelchin >>>>>>>>> Pine.

And don't get me started on Uhura or Sulu.  As much as I love Zoe, her casting did nothing to align with the image of Uhura; same with Sulu.  The only resemblances were that Zoe is dark skinned; Cho is Asian. 

[hefdaddy42]

I agree.

Also not a fan of the Uhura/Spock romance.  At all.

[jingle.boy]

I agree.

Also not a fan of the Uhura/Spock romance.  At all.

I wanted to rage punch someone over that.  Like any chick would fall in love with an emotionless soul.  That was pretty much the worst part of the story.  Absolutely zero need for that.

[Orbert]

[Orbert]

(but actually, I agree)

[BlobVanDam]

I agree.

Also not a fan of the Uhura/Spock romance.  At all.

I wanted to rage punch someone over that.  Like any chick would fall in love with an emotionless soul.  That was pretty much the worst part of the story.  Absolutely zero need for that.

Every generic Hollywood movie needs a love story shoehorned in sideways, because obviously then they've got the entire female audience.

[Kotowboy]

https://trekmovie.com/2015/12/17/pegg-interview-from-set-of-beyond/

[kaos2900]

That trailer was awful! Rage against the machine and Trek do not and should not mix.

[Kotowboy]

I agree 100%.

[hefdaddy42]

https://trekmovie.com/2015/12/17/pegg-interview-from-set-of-beyond/

…we want it to be about them on that five-year mission. In fact, two years into that five-year mission, and how that impacted them personally and what it meant to be out in space that long. And we liked the idea of also, on the fiftieth anniversary, looking at Roddenberry’s original vision and questioning it. The whole notion of the Federation and whether it’s a good thing or a bad thing and how productive is inclusivity and what is the true cost of expansion.

[Kotowboy]

Yeah what the fuck ?

I just want a bad guy wanting revenge again.


I don't want anything new for a change...


I know how much Blob *loves* the whole "utopian future" stuff from TNG.

[BlobVanDam]

…we want it to be about them on that five-year mission. In fact, two years into that five-year mission, and how that impacted them personally and what it meant to be out in space that long. And we liked the idea of also, on the fiftieth anniversary, looking at Roddenberry’s original vision and questioning it. The whole notion of the Federation and whether it’s a good thing or a bad thing and how productive is inclusivity and what is the true cost of expansion.

Yeah, that raised an eyebrow for me too. "To celebrate the 50th anniversary and Gene Roddenberry's vision, we're getting back to what Star Wars is about, except we're questioning it and missing the point entirely."

Yeah what the fuck ?

I just want a bad guy wanting revenge again.


I don't want anything new for a change...


I know how much Blob *loves* the whole "utopian future" stuff from TNG.

I legitimately don't know what your point is, or what parts of this post were supposed to be sarcasm or not, or if you're just trying to stir because nobody is agreeing with you on how bad this movie looks, but maybe you can let me know how wrong I am about the film, since you've clearly seen it judging by your post declaring you wouldn't post again until you had.

[ZirconBlue]

I agree.

Also not a fan of the Uhura/Spock romance.  At all.

I wanted to rage punch someone over that.  Like any chick would fall in love with an emotionless soul.  That was pretty much the worst part of the story.  Absolutely zero need for that.

He's not emotionless.  That's been firmly established.
 
But, you'll be happy to know that apparently the romance is discontinued in this movie.

[jingle.boy]

You're correct... I mis-spoke.  Vulcan's aren't emotionLESS, they are just a species that doesn't outwardly express/demonstrate/display any emotion... hence giving off the impression of being emotionless.

Either way, a romance with a human woman was too much of a stretch for me, especially with the scenes (ie, in the elevator after Vulcan had been destroyed) where Uhura is trying to break down his walls.

And WTF on questioning Roddenberry's vision??     Yeah, that's the way to celebrate 50 years of Star Trek.   

[hefdaddy42]

Yeah what the fuck ?

I just want a bad guy wanting revenge again.


I don't want anything new for a change...

Yes, because that is clearly what I said.

[El Barto]

I'm kind of torn on questioning Roddenberry's vision. I've said all along that the guy was a fucking menace. His vision of this superior, enlightened humanity was the fatal flaw of TNG, in my opinion. However, it sounds like they're tackling a different aspect of it which A: doesn't need tackling, and B: doesn't deserve to be tackled by these people. Moreover, it really wasn't a problem at all in the TOS era. Not really sure what to make of all of this.

[JayOctavarium]

Just watched TOS. SOooo much cheese.

Now working through TNG.

So much hate for Yar...

[BlobVanDam]

Just watched TOS. SOooo much cheese.

Now working through TNG.

So much hate for Yar...

I see we feel the same here. I hated Yar so damn much.