Author Topic: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation (Read 260054 times)

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2205 on:** September 29, 2015, 09:54:04 AM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on September 29, 2015, 09:44:37 AM

And we can't talk about guest stars on Star Trek without of course talking about Majel Barrett .

She was a regular on TOS. Lwaxana Troi on TNG and the voices of all the ships from TNG onwards til Star Trek (2009).

I don't know if she ever starred in VOY, DS9 Or Enterprise though.

She reprised her role of Lwaxanna in a few episodes of DS9. She didn't appear in Voyager or Enterprise, aside from voicing Voyager's computer as with the Enterprise. So nothing really additional to what you've mentioned.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2206 on:** September 29, 2015, 09:59:25 AM »

But fair do. Apart from Into Darkness ( inb4 good job too ) - she was in pretty much everything Star Trek from 1966 - 2009.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2207 on:** September 29, 2015, 10:09:58 AM »

The only person whose Star Trek career has spanned a longer period is Leonard Nimoy, who also managed Into Darkness before passing.

Orbert · « **Reply #2208 on:** September 29, 2015, 10:15:29 AM »

Majel was also the original first officer (presumably) in the original TOS pilot. She is only ever addressed as "Number One".

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2209 on:** September 29, 2015, 10:59:35 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on September 29, 2015, 10:09:58 AM

The only person whose Star Trek career has spanned a longer period is Leonard Nimoy, who also managed Into Darkness before passing.

Yeah he was in the first ever trek and the most recent thing too.

Plus Spock was in TNG and two more movies than Shatner. I also don't know if Spock cropped up in any TNG spin off series.

EDIT : I Hope Star Trek Beyond has a tribute to Nimoy. They could say Spock Prime has passed on and have a big Vulcan funeral for Spock Prime which could also double as a farewell to Nimoy.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2210 on:** September 29, 2015, 09:29:46 PM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on September 29, 2015, 10:59:35 AM

Quote from: BlobVanDam on September 29, 2015, 10:09:58 AM
The only person whose Star Trek career has spanned a longer period is Leonard Nimoy, who also managed Into Darkness before passing.

Yeah he was in the first ever trek and the most recent thing too.

Plus Spock was in TNG and two more movies than Shatner. I also don't know if Spock cropped up in any TNG spin off series.

EDIT : I Hope Star Trek Beyond has a tribute to Nimoy. They could say Spock Prime has passed on and have a big Vulcan funeral for Spock Prime which could also double as a farewell to Nimoy.

Spock never appeared in the series after Unification. Even though Shatner wasn't in The Cage, he could still cover a longer span if he were to appear in another movie (so could Takei and Nichols). If we're playing a pure numbers game though, I believe Michael Dorn wins most appearances for his run in both TNG and DS9, plus 4 TNG movies + 1 TOS movie.

I wouldn't be surprised if Star Trek Beyond has a tribute to Nimoy, although they should mention Grace Lee Whitney too. I expect they'll work in some reference to Spock's passing, although I'm not sure about a funeral. It could come across as a bit tacky anyway.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2211 on:** September 30, 2015, 01:36:34 PM »

https://trekmovie.com/2015/09/30/star-trek-beyond-begins-next-phase-of-filming-with-press-conference-in-dubai/

They're there to begin filming in Dubai.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2212 on:** October 15, 2015, 12:03:49 PM »

Principal Photography wraps tomorrow

I am hoping for a teaser trailer around Christmas time...

King Postwhore · « **Reply #2213 on:** October 15, 2015, 12:45:16 PM »

I enjoyed them. I'm not hung up on having to be the "Star Trek" way. That will happen again with a TV series......

I hope.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #2214 on:** October 15, 2015, 03:49:38 PM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on October 15, 2015, 12:03:49 PM

Principal Photography wraps tomorrow

I am hoping for a teaser trailer around Christmas time...

Seems a little quick.

But we'll see.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2215 on:** October 15, 2015, 03:59:31 PM »

Not really. They started filming in June. Sounds about right...

That's just Photography. No CGI or anything.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2216 on:** October 16, 2015, 01:56:16 AM »

Yeah, that timing isn't too quick.

Especially since 50% of the movie will just be CGI'd space explosions anyway.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2217 on:** October 16, 2015, 09:37:11 AM »

O U

I don't know why - but I have a feeling like "Beyond" will be the best of the three. At least as good as the first one. I think Simon will realise the problems with the last one.

No Orci & Kurtzman or Damon Lindelof writing...

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2218 on:** October 16, 2015, 08:05:24 PM »

I'd like to think it couldn't be worse than the last one, but Hollywood always finds new ways to disappoint.

And the first one was about as good as I expect from modern Hollywood, so I wouldn't set the bar that high.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2219 on:** October 18, 2015, 09:05:11 AM »

Here's something I realised :

The thing on The Next Generation which doesn't make sense is - having designated Transporter "rooms" when the site-to-site transporter exists. Which can pick you up from anywhere on the ship and

transport you anywhere else on the ship or down to the planet and vice-versa.

They even say " x amount of people to transport directly to y " .

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2220 on:** October 18, 2015, 09:15:25 AM »

I've thought about that before, and it does seem silly at times to go to the transporter room when they don't need to.

There are reasons for having the designated transporter room though. First of all, it still contains all of the specific components of the transporter system itself, and they have the specialized transporter controls and someone qualified to operate the transporter system, in cases of difficult or unknown conditions etc.

As for why people need to go to the transporter room to transport off the ship, it's probably easier because it's the area designed for the transporter beam, so there's no messing around with locating people and objects and making sure they're ready and not moving, and you're not transporting anything you're not supposed to, or making any mistakes where you transport part of something. It's easier to have everyone and everything there in front of you where you can visually check they're in place and verbally tell people what to do.

And a site to site transport might use more power, since you have to transport them from one distant location to the transporter buffer, then transport them to another distant location. Having them right over the transporter when de-materializing may use less power.

And also, formality, procedure, and habit.

That said, I'm sure there are numerous instances where they go to the transporter room when it would be more appropriate to do a site to site transport.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2221 on:** October 18, 2015, 09:43:23 AM »

Plus I thought that they built the set....Latterly introduced site-to-site... Went " Oops..." then just used Transpo bay anyway.

El Barto · « **Reply #2222 on:** October 18, 2015, 12:01:36 PM »

Originally intra-ship beaming was considered too dangerous. It was reserved for emergencies. It still seems to be used mostly for medical emergencies or when expediency is most important.

From a practical standpoint it also makes sense to have the room be the rally point. If you've got 8 people beaming down they can ll meet up and get their shit together. Otherwise you've got O'Brien having to get A from his quarters, B from the bridge, C from out of the shower, D from engineering, etc. Then he has to take 8 people from different locations and set them down in some semblance of order and not scattered about on planet in locations relative to where they originated on the ship.

One thing that I don't think was ever established was whether the computer handled those transports of if there's somebody in the transporter room ready to beam ever person on the ship somewhere at a moment's notice. That would be important so that if something goes wrong there's a person at point able to handle the situation.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2223 on:** October 18, 2015, 09:14:28 PM »

Quote from: El Barto on October 18, 2015, 12:01:36 PM

One thing that I don't think was ever established was whether the computer handled those transports of if there's somebody in the transporter room ready to beam ever person on the ship somewhere at a moment's notice. That would be important so that if something goes wrong there's a person at point able to handle the situation.

Being Trek, I'm sure it involved some unnecessarily long manual process that nobody ever thought to automate and had to run through a long chain of command for no reason instead of being as simple as future tech could make it.

Nefarius · « **Reply #2224 on:** October 19, 2015, 01:12:49 AM »

Just in case this is unknown to some... for more information about the transporter room read this:

https://chiefobrienatwork.com/

Greetings...
Nef

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2225 on:** October 19, 2015, 06:06:28 AM »

I'm sure Miles didn't just stand there for 8 hours a day in case someone needed a transport.

ZirconBlue · « **Reply #2226 on:** October 19, 2015, 12:14:40 PM »

Why do they have 3 separate slider controls on the transporter, when they always move all 3 together?

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2227 on:** October 19, 2015, 12:29:20 PM »

Quote from: ZirconBlue on October 19, 2015, 12:14:40 PM

Why do they have 3 separate slider controls on the transporter, when they always move all 3 together?

No idea. The only reason for TNG is because they did it on TOS.

The Transpo Pad on TNG is actually the one from TOS upside down.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2228 on:** October 19, 2015, 02:15:52 PM »

I must have missed this obviously direct to TV movie

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2229 on:** October 19, 2015, 04:42:20 PM »

Just think of all the stuff that featured on Star Trek in the 60s and 80s that we now take for granted...

Automatic Doors, Video Conferencing, portable communicators, touchscreen personal "Pads"...

One thing i'd never use in a million years is a Transporter. It might be like in The Prestige where it merely copies you and destroys the original.

Nefarius · « **Reply #2230 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:29:21 AM »

You could sell your transporter copies on DTF, I'm sure there are quite a few users who would like to kill you a little, even if it's just a clone.

Greetings...
Nef

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2231 on:** October 20, 2015, 05:16:15 AM »

Nah i'll just set up loads and loads of accounts here on DTF !!

Kotowboy1 - Star Wars sucks !!!

Kotowboy2 - BUY ALL MY THINGS

Kotowboy3 - Hey Blob Y U never go outside ?

Strike me down and two more will spring up in my place!!!

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2232 on:** October 20, 2015, 05:42:47 AM »

The thought of multiple Kotowboys is almost as scary as the thought of multiple BlobVanDams.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2233 on:** October 20, 2015, 05:48:07 AM »

We should start our own forum.

Blob And Ko

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2234 on:** October 20, 2015, 05:51:13 AM »

There were no survivors.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2235 on:** October 20, 2015, 05:51:36 AM »

Or any other members

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2236 on:** November 02, 2015, 09:29:25 AM »

Mods can merge this if they want but I thought we needed a new Star Trek thread.

https://www.startrek.com/article/new-star-trek-series-premieres-january-2017

Good news : New tv show.

Less good news : It's produced by Alex Kurtzman.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #2237 on:** November 02, 2015, 09:30:42 AM »

New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series in the Works at CBS All Access

New Star Trek on TV? Yay!

On CBS All Access? Boo!

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2238 on:** November 02, 2015, 09:34:25 AM »

I guess you can delete my thread then

Hoping this TV show will feel as fresh as TNG did back in the day and not as stale and worn out as Voyager and Enterprise which had beaten a formula to absolute death.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2239 on:** November 02, 2015, 09:38:49 AM »

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 02, 2015, 09:30:42 AM

New ‘Star Trek’ TV Series in the Works at CBS All Access

New Star Trek on TV? Yay!

On CBS All Access? Boo!

New Star Trek show? Yay!

Alex Kurtzman? Fuck right off and die in a fire we'd be better off with nothing.

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