Author Topic: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation (Read 259213 times)

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2170 on:** September 22, 2015, 11:49:38 PM »

I randomly came across that only a few hours ago while searching for blueprints for the Enterprise D.

I have ground plans, but I was hoping for elevation and details. Oh well. I'll make do!

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2171 on:** September 23, 2015, 03:24:48 AM »

If the entire ship was done like that and you could just walk around and explore every room - i'd be in there all day

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2172 on:** September 23, 2015, 03:28:45 AM »

It would get boring unless they furnish each room uniquely, and not just 1000 identical crew quarters. And it needs people roaming around and doing things. Then it will be cool.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2173 on:** September 23, 2015, 03:35:13 AM »

I noticed Ten Forward was a lot smaller than it is on the show. Plus I don't know how accurate they're going with it but it appeared to be on deck 2 as well.

MrBoom_shack-a-lack · « **Reply #2174 on:** September 23, 2015, 04:02:32 AM »

Would be cool using that with VR.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2175 on:** September 23, 2015, 04:08:25 AM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on September 23, 2015, 03:35:13 AM

I noticed Ten Forward was a lot smaller than it is on the show. Plus I don't know how accurate they're going with it but it appeared to be on deck 2 as well.

There could be a few reasons for that. It might not be smaller, but might appear so due to the different camera and field of view. Or maybe they had to compromise for the sake of the ship layout and fitting it with the exterior. The interiors never match the exteriors 100%, and that goes for almost any fictional ship from any franchise. It will be easier to tell once they get some people in there to give a point of reference for scale.
I just watched the video properly, and what they have so far is very impressive.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2176 on:** September 23, 2015, 08:07:02 AM »

Quote from: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on September 23, 2015, 04:02:32 AM

Would be cool using that with VR.

Shit yeah - i'd lawnmower man that shit and figure out how to upload my consciousness

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2177 on:** September 23, 2015, 08:08:28 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on September 23, 2015, 04:08:25 AM

Quote from: Kotowboy on September 23, 2015, 03:35:13 AM
I noticed Ten Forward was a lot smaller than it is on the show. Plus I don't know how accurate they're going with it but it appeared to be on deck 2 as well.

There could be a few reasons for that. It might not be smaller, but might appear so due to the different camera and field of view. Or maybe they had to compromise for the sake of the ship layout and fitting it with the exterior. The interiors never match the exteriors 100%, and that goes for almost any fictional ship from any franchise. It will be easier to tell once they get some people in there to give a point of reference for scale.
I just watched the video properly, and what they have so far is very impressive.

I imagined they had to scale it back due to the actual physical space they were working with so decided to just go with an approximation.

El Barto · « **Reply #2178 on:** September 23, 2015, 08:23:39 AM »

First thing I noticed was 10-Forward. Went and watched a few minutes of Power Play, which took place mostly there, and it certainly does seem smaller in the simulation. The doors also appeared to be in the wrong place.

Also, it looks no different than the parts they had built for one of the Elite Force series games, which also used the Unreal engine. I found most of the games pretty crappy, but there were some very good missions/levels that took place aboard the D, and a largely blown to bits Excelsior class ship.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2179 on:** September 23, 2015, 10:29:21 AM »

I had another look and the door actually says " TWO Forward " so it's probably just a lounge on Deck 2. Which would make more sense.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2180 on:** September 23, 2015, 10:33:51 AM »

And I just noticed that the windows angle the wrong way. The windows of ten forward angle inwards, as it's on the lower edge of the saucer section. This looks to be the floor above that.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2181 on:** September 23, 2015, 10:42:39 AM »

we're a bunch of saddoes !

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2182 on:** September 23, 2015, 10:43:49 AM »

But in all SRSNS - If this was available as a game with occasional missions and they did THE ENTIRE SHIP - including every Jeffries Tube and turbolift etc. I would so buy it.

And if indeed it came out for VR - i'd live in there

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2183 on:** September 23, 2015, 10:52:51 AM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on September 23, 2015, 10:42:39 AM

we're a bunch of saddoes !

If that wasn't sad enough, by complete coincidence I happen to be creating parts of the Ent-D interior myself right now.

I can't wait to try this out in VR, and see the bridge. There's a bunch of stuff I want to make/see in VR as soon as possible.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2184 on:** September 23, 2015, 10:59:55 AM »

Like I said - If they managed to include the entire ship including all Jeffries tubes and turbolifts etc etc - i'd get that for VR in an instant.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2185 on:** September 23, 2015, 11:03:22 AM »

I wonder how long it would take to explore an entire ship the size of the real Enterprise D? It's a huge ship.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2186 on:** September 23, 2015, 11:04:52 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on September 23, 2015, 11:03:22 AM

I wonder how long it would take to explore an entire ship the size of the real Enterprise D? It's a huge ship.

650 metres ? Plus you could even explore the areas you wouldn't be able to on the show due to horrific burny death radiation

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2187 on:** September 23, 2015, 11:07:27 AM »

Even excluding the horrific burny death radiation sections, just exploring all of the rooms in the saucer section would take a while.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2188 on:** September 23, 2015, 11:17:17 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on September 23, 2015, 11:07:27 AM

Even excluding the horrific burny death radiation sections, just exploring all of the rooms in the saucer section would take a while.

I'm kinda obsessed with scale and it's nice to see how big the dish is compared to the conference room and that shuttle bay is enormous. For obvious reasons you couldn't show it on the TV show.

One thing i've always wondered is - on the underside of the dish there are windows on which would be the floor. Are those quarters upside down or what ?

King Postwhore · « **Reply #2189 on:** September 23, 2015, 11:19:48 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on September 23, 2015, 11:07:27 AM

Even excluding the horrific burny death radiation sections, just exploring all of the rooms in the saucer section would take a while.

It would especially take longer if you stopped for a booty call with Ensign Roe.

Oh well, you're no Riker, Blob.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2190 on:** September 23, 2015, 11:26:40 AM »

Quote from: kingshmegland on September 23, 2015, 11:19:48 AM

Quote from: BlobVanDam on September 23, 2015, 11:07:27 AM
Even excluding the horrific burny death radiation sections, just exploring all of the rooms in the saucer section would take a while.

It would especially take longer if you stopped for a booty call with Ensign Roe.

Oh well, you're no Riker, Blob.

I'm more of a Wesley.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #2191 on:** September 23, 2015, 11:31:56 AM »

I figured Reginald Barclay. Loves to interact on the Holodeck (internet) but not face to face (where one could sprain an ankle).

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2192 on:** September 27, 2015, 12:20:44 PM »

Star Trek loved to re-use actors so much - if Ricardo Montalban had showed up on TNG it would not have surprised me

After all - Paul Winfield was in an episode and so was Joachim from Wrath Of Khan and also the actor who played David.

( Not all in the same episode I mean )...

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2193 on:** September 27, 2015, 08:01:00 PM »

Star Trek was pretty loyal with their guest stars. I always think it's fun spotting them.

Tony Todd played Worf's brother in TNG/DS9, he played old Jake Sisko in DS9's The Visitor, and he played the main Hirogen dude in Voyager. You can put all the prosthetics you want on him, but there's no hiding that amazing voice.

Tim Russ was an extra in Star Trek 6 on the bridge of the Enterprise B, he almost got the part of Geordi LaForge, he guest starred as a Klingon in DS9, then finally got the part of Tuvok in Voyager. He got there in the end!

And Jeffrey Combs was fantastic at pretty much everything they gave him.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2194 on:** September 28, 2015, 03:30:51 AM »

Let's not forget David Warner in Star Trek 5 and 6 and of course the Cardassian torturing Picard in TNG.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2195 on:** September 28, 2015, 04:20:57 AM »

And Kurtwood Smith was in the movies as the leader of Starfleet or something, in DS9 as a Cardassian, and Annorax in Voyager.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2196 on:** September 28, 2015, 07:47:42 AM »

Annorax

Funny every time.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2197 on:** September 28, 2015, 07:48:22 AM »

You mean the name? It's always made me think anorexia.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2198 on:** September 28, 2015, 07:49:36 AM »

I guess you Aussies don't call jackets Anoraks ? Is it just a Brit thing ?

I'm guessing that Annorax is pronounced : An - ORR - Acts. Emphasis on the ORR.

Anorak is pronounced AN - or - ak. Just FYI

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2199 on:** September 28, 2015, 07:55:30 AM »

Annorax is pronounced with emphasis on the first syllable. I've never heard of an anorak. Judging by them naming a character Annorax, I'm guessing it's not a US thing either.

jammindude · « **Reply #2200 on:** September 28, 2015, 09:31:10 AM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on September 28, 2015, 07:49:36 AM

I guess you Aussies don't call jackets Anoraks ? Is it just a Brit thing ?

I'm guessing that Annorax is pronounced : An - ORR - Acts. Emphasis on the ORR.

Anorak is pronounced AN - or - ak. Just FYI

Is THAT where Marillion got Anaraknophobia? I thought it was just a weird way of spelling "on a rack"....

King Postwhore · « **Reply #2201 on:** September 28, 2015, 10:54:57 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on September 27, 2015, 08:01:00 PM

And Jeffrey Combs was fantastic at pretty much everything they gave him.

I can never get enough of him in anything he's in.

El Barto · « **Reply #2202 on:** September 28, 2015, 10:17:13 PM »

Phil Morris played in TOS, STIII, DS9x2 and VOY. Not to mention he starred in one of the very best episodes DS9 did as Remata'Klan.

Don't forget the ladies. Worf's jailbait half-Romulan girlfriend came back as Harry Kim's girlfriend in Voyager. Worf's old lady played a Romulan, a Klingon, a Q and an Andorian on 3 different series. Robin Curtis came back to play a Romulan after she was Savvik. Seska played a couple of roles.

There are also some people who had bit parts and were later offered major roles. Marc Alaimo's neck got him a return gig to be Dukat after he'd played four different characters on TNG. Solome Jens was in TNG before becoming the female founder.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #2203 on:** September 28, 2015, 10:25:33 PM »

Yep, if we were naming every repeat actor, we'd be here all day.

I'm not as well versed on the TNG ones as I haven't watched those as many times or as recently, but one that comes to mind is James Cromwell who had several roles before playing Zephram Cochrane in FC. There are also many people who played endless faceless minor characters in make-up, with none of real note.

Marc Alaimohas always been THE Cardassian to me. I believe they actually designed that neck piece because of Alaimo's neck. No other Cardassian quite looks as good. Kurtwood Smith looked downright funny.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #2204 on:** September 29, 2015, 09:44:37 AM »

And we can't talk about guest stars on Star Trek without of course talking about Majel Barrett .

She was a regular on TOS. Lwaxana Troi on TNG and the voices of all the ships from TNG onwards til Star Trek (2009).

I don't know if she ever starred in VOY, DS9 Or Enterprise though.

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