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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3430 on: July 28, 2013, 09:36:39 AM »
Quote from: Petruccinator12 on July 28, 2013, 09:29:46 AM
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Maybe we should wait for a confirmation to show this review.

Which review..?

He also needs an authorization to tell you which review...
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3431 on: July 28, 2013, 09:42:45 AM »
Quote from: Moor on July 28, 2013, 09:36:39 AM
Quote from: Petruccinator12 on July 28, 2013, 09:29:46 AM
Quote from: Pepe108 on July 28, 2013, 08:03:29 AM
Maybe we should wait for a confirmation to show this review.

Which review..?

He also needs an authorization to tell you which review...


Oh, come on... -.-
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3432 on: July 28, 2013, 09:43:24 AM »
Here's my theory on why this thread is getting confusing/rediculous.

Someone will post an article with false information. People will discuss for a few posts about whether the post with the false information is legit and or reliable. Then it will be confirmed that it's not legit or reliable, and the post will be taken down. BUT the ensuing chaotic discussion of said false information will NOT be deleted. This causes much confusion for those who come in late to the discussion. Perhaps it is just me.
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Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on August 26, 2013, 09:07:36 PM
In what friggin' universe is a 68 minute long album "short"?

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3433 on: July 28, 2013, 10:08:02 AM »
If these times ARE true, I'd just like to point out that this is the first album since WDADU without a 10-19 minute song.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3434 on: July 28, 2013, 10:11:48 AM »
Quote from: Nearmyth on July 28, 2013, 10:08:02 AM
If these times ARE true, I'd just like to point out that this is the first album since WDADU without a 10-19 minute song.

Well, but at least one over 20 minutes :P But which set of song lengths are you referring to now..? :P
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3435 on: July 28, 2013, 10:28:36 AM »
From Page 88:

1. False Awakening Suite – 2:42
2. The Enemy Inside – 6:17
3. The Looking Glass – 4:53
4. Enigma Machine – 6:01
5. The Bigger Picture – 7:40
6. Behind The Veil – 6:52
7. Surrender To Reason – 6:34
8. Along For The Ride – 4:45
9. Illumination Theory – 22:17

I was hoping for FAS to be longer, but since it is a sub-3 minute instrumental, it'll probably pack a big punch. It's a tired comparison, but if it has a similar impact as Overture 1928 did, I'll be quite happy.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3436 on: July 28, 2013, 10:37:48 AM »
Well...this time around no ones seems to be bothered by the wikipedia edit.....
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3437 on: July 28, 2013, 10:44:58 AM »
I'm cool with those song lengths if they are actually true.  A lot of shorter songs... a very cool thing.  A suite under 3 minutes... I dig that... not what you expect... rather... progressive.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3438 on: July 28, 2013, 10:48:35 AM »
Quote from: ibosmiley on July 28, 2013, 10:44:58 AM
I'm cool with those song lengths if they are actually true.  A lot of shorter songs... a very cool thing.  A suite under 3 minutes... I dig that... not what you expect... rather... progressive.

I like them as well! The only I'd change: At least one more song above the 10-minute mark, preferably FAS =)
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3439 on: July 28, 2013, 10:49:54 AM »
Quote from: SuperTaco on July 28, 2013, 10:28:36 AM
I was hoping for FAS to be longer, but since it is a sub-3 minute instrumental, it'll probably pack a big punch. It's a tired comparison, but if it has a similar impact as Overture 1928 did, I'll be quite happy.

Doubt it, honestly.  They said FAS would be a replacement for their usual concert openers, which are usually intro clips from movie soundtracks.  Those clips are usually more atmospheric and suspenseful than high-energy like Overture 1928.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3440 on: July 28, 2013, 10:51:59 AM »
Why is the epic always at the end?  :huh:
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Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on August 26, 2013, 09:07:36 PM
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3441 on: July 28, 2013, 10:52:56 AM »
Would you rather it be in the beginning?
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I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3442 on: July 28, 2013, 10:53:41 AM »
Quote from: wolven74 on July 28, 2013, 10:51:59 AM
Why is the epic always at the end?  :huh:

Because it's a climactic ending, and it's a bit hard to follow it up. It doesn't have to be at the end, but it works well at the end.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3443 on: July 28, 2013, 11:02:13 AM »
The idea is that usually the main course is served in the middle of the meal, but since this epic contains chocolate as we already know, it will be served as a dessert  :biggrin:
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3444 on: July 28, 2013, 11:03:36 AM »
Quote from: Moor on July 28, 2013, 11:02:13 AM
The idea is that usually the main course is served in the middle of the meal, but since this epic contains chocolate as we already know, it will be served as a dessert  :biggrin:

A very large dessert  :o
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3445 on: July 28, 2013, 11:04:16 AM »
Quote from: Lucien on July 28, 2013, 11:03:36 AM
Quote from: Moor on July 28, 2013, 11:02:13 AM
The idea is that usually the main course is served in the middle of the meal, but since this epic contains chocolate as we already know, it will be served as a dessert  :biggrin:

A very large dessert  :o

The best kind!
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I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3446 on: July 28, 2013, 11:07:49 AM »
Quote from: JayOctavarium on July 28, 2013, 11:04:16 AM
Quote from: Lucien on July 28, 2013, 11:03:36 AM
Quote from: Moor on July 28, 2013, 11:02:13 AM
The idea is that usually the main course is served in the middle of the meal, but since this epic contains chocolate as we already know, it will be served as a dessert  :biggrin:

A very large dessert  :o

The best kind!

Come and have a taste, a rare dessert
All the finest chocolates improve with age
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3447 on: July 28, 2013, 11:10:43 AM »
I hate chocolate cake. Why couldn't he have likened the guitar tone to a cheese enchilada?
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3448 on: July 28, 2013, 11:18:03 AM »
Quote from: dongringo on July 28, 2013, 11:10:43 AM
I hate chocolate cake. Why couldn't he have likened the guitar tone to a cheese enchilada?

You want the new album to give me gas?
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I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3449 on: July 28, 2013, 11:19:03 AM »
Quote from: dongringo on July 28, 2013, 11:10:43 AM
I hate chocolate cake. Why couldn't he have likened the guitar tone to a cheese enchilada?

...you hate chocolate cake? How's that possible? :P
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3450 on: July 28, 2013, 11:21:23 AM »
Quote from: Petruccinator12 on July 28, 2013, 11:19:03 AM
Quote from: dongringo on July 28, 2013, 11:10:43 AM
I hate chocolate cake. Why couldn't he have likened the guitar tone to a cheese enchilada?

...you hate chocolate cake? How's that possible? :P

I know at least two people who despise chocolate in general.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3451 on: July 28, 2013, 11:24:01 AM »
Quote from: dongringo on July 28, 2013, 11:10:43 AM
I hate chocolate cake. Why couldn't he have likened the guitar tone to a cheese enchilada?

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3452 on: July 28, 2013, 11:24:48 AM »
Quote from: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on July 28, 2013, 11:24:01 AM
Quote from: dongringo on July 28, 2013, 11:10:43 AM
I hate chocolate cake. Why couldn't he have likened the guitar tone to a cheese enchilada?

Why do you hate America?

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I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3453 on: July 28, 2013, 11:30:37 AM »
 The food isn't as good in America. Viva Mexico!  :lol
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3454 on: July 28, 2013, 11:45:21 AM »
Seemingly, the current title lengths are correct............?!
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3455 on: July 28, 2013, 11:51:25 AM »
Quote from: JayOctavarium on July 28, 2013, 11:24:48 AM
Quote from: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on July 28, 2013, 11:24:01 AM
Quote from: dongringo on July 28, 2013, 11:10:43 AM
I hate chocolate cake. Why couldn't he have likened the guitar tone to a cheese enchilada?

Why do you hate America?

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Quote from: Petruccinator12 on July 28, 2013, 11:45:21 AM
Seemingly, the current title lengths are correct............?!

Yeah, noxon basically confirmed them.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3456 on: July 28, 2013, 11:52:41 AM »
It seems like it. I just can't wait to hear Illumination Theory.

Ooh, let's talk about IT.  :biggrin: ;D :biggrin:

Paradoxe de la Lumiere Noire (Paradox of the Black Light) is the introduction, and it's name makes me think it will be like the Octavarium intro, perhaps with more of the band involved.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3457 on: July 28, 2013, 11:53:37 AM »
Quote from: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on July 28, 2013, 11:51:25 AM
Quote from: JayOctavarium on July 28, 2013, 11:24:48 AM
Quote from: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on July 28, 2013, 11:24:01 AM
Quote from: dongringo on July 28, 2013, 11:10:43 AM
I hate chocolate cake. Why couldn't he have likened the guitar tone to a cheese enchilada?

Why do you hate America?

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no u


Nuh uh.



Ok so I wet my lips with a bunch of DT, JLB and PT recently... but nothing can kill my thirst for this album. Hopefully something (single? reviews? interviews? more press photos? ANYTHING) comes... soon
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I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3458 on: July 28, 2013, 11:54:29 AM »
Quote from: Petruccinator12 on July 28, 2013, 11:19:03 AM
Quote from: dongringo on July 28, 2013, 11:10:43 AM
I hate chocolate cake. Why couldn't he have likened the guitar tone to a cheese enchilada?

...you hate chocolate cake? How's that possible? :P

Lactose intolerance.  It is no laughing matter. 
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3459 on: July 28, 2013, 11:56:56 AM »
Quote from: Lucien on July 28, 2013, 11:52:41 AM
It seems like it. I just can't wait to hear Illumination Theory.

Ooh, let's talk about IT.  :biggrin: ;D :biggrin:

Paradoxe de la Lumiere Noire (Paradox of the Black Light) is the introduction, and it's name makes me think it will be like the Octavarium intro, perhaps with more of the band involved.

I'm all for Jordan having long, spacey solos.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3460 on: July 28, 2013, 11:57:05 AM »
Quote from: dongringo on July 28, 2013, 11:30:37 AM
The food isn't as good in America. Viva Mexico!  :lol

Aah, so you're a fan of the proper xocolatl then.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3461 on: July 28, 2013, 11:59:01 AM »
Quote from: Lucien on July 28, 2013, 11:52:41 AM
It seems like it. I just can't wait to hear Illumination Theory.

Ooh, let's talk about IT.  :biggrin: ;D :biggrin:

Paradoxe de la Lumiere Noire (Paradox of the Black Light) is the introduction, and it's name makes me think it will be like the Octavarium intro, perhaps with more of the band involved.


I don't have the progress chart before my eyes...but one song was called "Yarrgh". This is FAS then, right? But what about the easter egg? What about the other 9 songs on the board? :/ Am I missing out on something?
I'd agree that paradoxe d.l.l.n. sounds like some kind of instrumental intro =)
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3462 on: July 28, 2013, 12:02:06 PM »
I add: Yes, I agree that Noxon indirectly confirmed the song lengths :D
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #3463 on: July 28, 2013, 12:05:18 PM »
Quote from: Lucien on July 28, 2013, 11:52:41 AM
Paradoxe de la Lumiere Noire (Paradox of the Black Light) is the introduction, and it's name makes me think it will be like the Octavarium intro, perhaps with more of the band involved.

Actually, the structure of the album seems very 8V-ish, now that I think of it.  Mostly shorter songs concluded by a 20+ minute epic.
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« Reply #3464 on: July 28, 2013, 12:14:40 PM »
Quote from: theseoafs on July 28, 2013, 12:05:18 PM
Quote from: Lucien on July 28, 2013, 11:52:41 AM
Paradoxe de la Lumiere Noire (Paradox of the Black Light) is the introduction, and it's name makes me think it will be like the Octavarium intro, perhaps with more of the band involved.

Actually, the structure of the album seems very 8V-ish, now that I think of it.  Mostly shorter songs concluded by a 20+ minute epic.


I'd say so too that it seems to have an Octavarium structure......I cannot tell for sure if I like it though...just one song above the 10-minute mark :/ I'd hoped there would be at least two....
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