Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One

[Kotowboy]

I know i'm biased but I think the Constitution II Class ( basically all 6 TOS movies ) Enterprise is the nicest looking fictional spaceship.

Enterprise E is a close second then the JJ Abrams Enterprise.

it's probably sacrilege for me to say this as a Trekker - but I think the Original Series Constitution 1 Class is the ugliest

[Orbert]

Michael Jackson wanted to play Jar-Jar Binks?

That's what George told me. Me, Natalie Portman, and George's kids—we were at Wembley arena at Michael Jackson's concert. We were taken backstage and we met Michael. There was Michael and Lisa Marie [Presley]. George introduced me as "Jar Jar" and I was like, That's kind of weird. Michael was like, "Oh. OK." I thought, What is going on? After Michael had driven off, we all go back up to a big afterparty. I'm having a drink with George and I said, "Why did you introduce me as Jar Jar?" He said, "Well, Michael wanted to do the part but he wanted to do it in prosthetics and makeup like 'Thriller.'" George wanted to do it in CGI.

[Dream Team]

Man, I tried watching EP I last night and had to fast-forward through most of it. 90% of the dialogue sounded like it was being read off a cue card. McDiarmid was the only one not mailing it in. It had been so long since I had watched the prequels I thought I'd give them another chance, but no.

[hefdaddy42]

Darth Maul had the best lines of Ep. 1.

[BlackInk]

At least Episode III is good, the one that mattered.

[Bolsters]

I think it only seems good because generally people watch I and II beforehand.

[Zantera]

People only tell themselves III was good because compared to I and II it looked like Citizen Kane. It's still an incredibly flawed movie, but despite a lot of problems, it has at least a few redeemable parts, unlike I and II.

[ariich]

Well, thanks for explaining my own opinions to me, I didn't realise I was simply deluding myself.

Actually, I like Episode III because I think it's good. Not "good" compared to I and II. Does it have some flaws? Sure. So do the original trilogy (except arguably Empire which is fantastic and I can't really find fault with).

[Zantera]

Rich I thought you knew me better by now? Most of my posts are exaggerated and/or has a strong sense of sarcasm. 

[hefdaddy42]

At least Episode III is good, the one that mattered.

I'm glad you like it.

[King Postwhore]

At least Episode III is good, the one that mattered.

I'm glad you like it.

I did.  It was on par with Episode 6.  4 & 5 is where it's at.

[BlackInk]

I love V, and I think VI is really really good, but I have always found IV to be pretty boring. Classic movie with enjoyable moments, but overall pretty boring.

[ariich]

Rich I thought you knew me better by now? Most of my posts are exaggerated and/or has a strong sense of sarcasm. 

I feel I've usually got a good handle on the sarcastic ones, but I often can't tell when you're exaggerating.

[Kotowboy]

It's funny that the best SW movie is one not directed by Lucas. 

[Zantera]

Lucas was never a great director IMO. He's was a brilliant idea man and the universe he created was an amazing one, but I think there is something to be said when comparing the old trilogy, with Lucas being surrounded by talent and everybody compromising, and the prequels were Lucas made every call and directed every movie.

[Lucien]

I have a feeling VII-XI will be greater than all 6 movies we have now currently

[Onno]

I have a feeling VII-XI will be greater than all 6 movies we have now currently

I agree.

[Zantera]

I don't expect the new ones to top the original trilogy, but as long as they're good in their own right, I'll be happy. You can do a lot of great things with special effects today, but what really made the original trilogy so good was how timeless it was. They play into many classic themes, and in some ways the sci-fi setting is just a framework to hang that on. If we go at it just from a story and character arc standpoint, the original movies are near perfect in that regard. The hero's journey, being tempted by darkness and power, the underdogs (rebels) fighting against the empire, light vs dark, and so on.

[King Postwhore]

The background just in the trailer looks amazing so I think the scope of the planets will look awesome. I'd rather it be the background than the CGI being the forefront.

[Lucien]

The background just in the trailer looks amazing so I think the scope of the planets will look awesome. I'd rather it be the background than the CGI being the forefront.

Well, we already know a great deal of the effects will not be CGI and instead will be practical like in the original trilogy, as per the wishes of J. J. Abrams

[King Postwhore]

I did not know that. Sweet. I'm staying away from digging into finding stuff out.

[Kotowboy]

And JJ & Rian Johnson are fans. They know what other fans want - and more importantly - don't want.

[jammindude]

Lucas was never a great director IMO. He's was a brilliant idea man and the universe he created was an amazing one, but I think there is something to be said when comparing the old trilogy, with Lucas being surrounded by talent and everybody compromising, and the prequels were Lucas made every call and directed every movie.

Get out of my head....it's freakin creepy, man!

(I've been making this *exact* statement to people IRL for decades now)

[BlobVanDam]

I have a feeling VII-XI will be greater than all 6 movies we have now currently

I don't think they'll top the OT, but even the trailer for VII is better than the entire PT.

[ariich]

Lucas was never a great director IMO. He's was a brilliant idea man and the universe he created was an amazing one, but I think there is something to be said when comparing the old trilogy, with Lucas being surrounded by talent and everybody compromising, and the prequels were Lucas made every call and directed every movie.

Get out of my head....it's freakin creepy, man!

(I've been making this *exact* statement to people IRL for decades now)

It's not that creepy - it's the opinion of pretty much everyone.

[Kotowboy]

Lucas pretty much had one idea - and when it made hundreds of millions of dollars - he just got greedy and lazy.

[BlackInk]

I think the next trilogy has the potential to top the OT. As I said, I'm not the biggest fan of IV, so that brings the old trilogy down a bit. I'm not sure they'll top Empire (I hope they will though), but to top the trilogy as a whole is not impossible.

[ariich]

I think the next trilogy has the potential to top the OT. As I said, I'm not the biggest fan of IV, so that brings the old trilogy down a bit. I'm not sure they'll top Empire (I hope they will though), but to top the trilogy as a whole is not impossible.

I'm similar. I appreciate how innovative and hugely iconic IV was, but I don't find it all that exciting on the whole. V is incredible. VI has some incredible stuff but also some really naff stuff too, similar sort of balance as III in my opinion. I was just terrible, and II was flawed but had some great stuff in it.

So yeah, I suppose I have only loved one out of six films, so I'd say the new trilogy definitely has the potential to be the strongest.

[Kotowboy]

It's funny that (some) people literally worship Star Wars and yet a large majority of them really only love 33% of the movies.

[orcus116]

Well some of us just like to pretend that there is no PT.

[hefdaddy42]

Well some of us just like to pretend that there is no PT.

This.  I just basically don't even acknowledge it anymore.

[Phoenix87x]

Well some of us just like to pretend that there is no PT.

This.  I just basically don't even acknowledge it anymore.

Me neither. There is no prequel trilogy.

[kaos2900]

Revenge of the Sith is better than every other episode except for Empire in my book. I really enjoy the prequels. They aren't perfect but neither are the films in the OT except for Empire. Also, I don't think Lucas was greedy and lazy. He's just not a great director. He made the films he wanted to make and honestly he was in every right to do just that. Artists/Musicians/Film Makers etc. shouldn't have to cater to what the fans want. If it's good then the majority will enjoy it. I understand that I'm in the minority when it comes to the prequels and I'm cool with that.

All of that being said, I also agree that the new trilogy will surpass both the OT and the PT.

[BlackInk]

I actively dislike I and II, but I wouldn't pretend they don't exist. They're part of the Star Wars canon whether they're good or not.

[bosk1]

I was just terrible

QFT.  But this thread is about Star Wars.