Game of Thrones (TV, fantasy) Thread

[cramx3]

Yes, I just watched that episode with my new female friend and she said he did what little he could in bed cause he was always drunk and they did have one baratheon child together who died after birth.

[BlackInk]

She also said that she "finished him off in other ways".

[cramx3]

She also said that she "finished him off in other ways".

Yea, Im not really sure what she was implying though.  I get that in normal sexual situations but it wasnt clear to me what she really meant.  But two reasons why they definitely had sex:

1. Had to consumate the marriage, and maybe the first baby was the proof of that happening.
2. Robert would have known the other children weren't his if he wasn't banging Cersei, although this could be argued that he may have been too drunk to realize he wasnt finishing inside her, but as drunk as he was on the show, he always seemed to know what was going on around him.  Like he didnt appear blackout drunk on the show.

[hefdaddy42]

She also said that she "finished him off in other ways".

With her hands or mouth. 

[Prog Snob]

Nothing wrong with that. 

[hefdaddy42]

Nothing wrong with that.

Certainly not.

[BlackInk]

2. Robert would have known the other children weren't his if he wasn't banging Cersei, although this could be argued that he may have been too drunk to realize he wasnt finishing inside her, but as drunk as he was on the show, he always seemed to know what was going on around him.  Like he didnt appear blackout drunk on the show.

We just didn't see those moments. It's no stretch of imagination to assume that the Robert portrayed on the show could be that drunk after a long day of partying or whatever. I'd also say that he had to be really drunk to even try having sex with Cersei, given how they feel about each other.

[Prog Snob]

2. Robert would have known the other children weren't his if he wasn't banging Cersei, although this could be argued that he may have been too drunk to realize he wasnt finishing inside her, but as drunk as he was on the show, he always seemed to know what was going on around him.  Like he didnt appear blackout drunk on the show.

We just didn't see those moments. It's no stretch of imagination to assume that the Robert portrayed on the show could be that drunk after a long day of partying or whatever. I'd also say that he had to be really drunk to even try having sex with Cersei, given how they feel about each other.

Especially considered who she was smitten with.  Wasn't it said that she was hoping to marry one of the Targaryens? 

And obviously Robert didn't get the bride he wanted either, Lyanna Stark.

[BlackInk]

Especially considered who she was smitten with.  Wasn't it said that she was hoping to marry one of the Targaryens?

I think she was more interested in the position that came with marrying Rhaegar more than Rhaegar himself. But I think she said in a season 1 episode that she actually did love Robert, or at least genuinely tried, for a while in the beginning.

[Prog Snob]

Especially considered who she was smitten with.  Wasn't it said that she was hoping to marry one of the Targaryens?

I think she was more interested in the position that came with marrying Rhaegar more than Rhaegar himself. But I think she said in a season 1 episode that she actually did love Robert, or at least genuinely tried, for a while in the beginning.

You might be right. I don't remember the exacts words she used.

[cramx3]

Especially considered who she was smitten with.  Wasn't it said that she was hoping to marry one of the Targaryens?

I think she was more interested in the position that came with marrying Rhaegar more than Rhaegar himself. But I think she said in a season 1 episode that she actually did love Robert, or at least genuinely tried, for a while in the beginning.

You might be right. I don't remember the exacts words she used.

Yup, she said she was in love with Robert in the beginning and wanted to marry him.  It was their wedding night when he called her Lyanna that she realized he didn't love her back.

[Prog Snob]

Especially considered who she was smitten with.  Wasn't it said that she was hoping to marry one of the Targaryens?

I think she was more interested in the position that came with marrying Rhaegar more than Rhaegar himself. But I think she said in a season 1 episode that she actually did love Robert, or at least genuinely tried, for a while in the beginning.

You might be right. I don't remember the exacts words she used.

Yup, she said she was in love with Robert in the beginning and wanted to marry him.  It was their wedding night when he called her Lyanna that she realized he didn't love her back.

It's all coming back to me now. 

[wasteland]

Especially considered who she was smitten with.  Wasn't it said that she was hoping to marry one of the Targaryens?

I think she was more interested in the position that came with marrying Rhaegar more than Rhaegar himself. But I think she said in a season 1 episode that she actually did love Robert, or at least genuinely tried, for a while in the beginning.

You might be right. I don't remember the exacts words she used.

Yup, she said she was in love with Robert in the beginning and wanted to marry him.  It was their wedding night when he called her Lyanna that she realized he didn't love her back.

In a world where arranged marriages are prevalent by far, that's one hell of a reason to kill all Robert's children in her womb, then kill him and all his bastards.

[Dimitrius]

Cersei is a petty bitch.

[wasteland]

Cersei is a petty bitch.

Indeed she is. And to all show watchers, book Cersei is a good 10 times the bitch she is in the show!

One major concern regarding season 5: [AFFC/ADWD spoilers] Jaime is not going to kick it in Dorme, is he? I do hope he's not replacing Arys Oakheart in the Dorn storyline and taste Areo Otah's axe. At this point it's either him or Bronn, and the latter actually looks the least likely to survive the trip. But killing Jaime would be HUGE and to me (he's my favourite character) hugely sad and quite disappointing.

[Prog Snob]

Cersei is a petty bitch.

Indeed she is. And to all show watchers, book Cersei is a good 10 times the bitch she is in the show!

Agreed.  When I read book 4 I couldn't believe how nasty she got.

[hefdaddy42]

WHAT

THE

FUCK

[Dimitrius]

At the lack of fetching of the block?

[Prog Snob]

Bye bye Janos.  Never liked that prick anyway.

[Evermind]

WHAT

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FUCK

That's my reaction to the old High Septon brothel scene. It was downright ridiculous, not in a good way. Other than that, I quite liked the episode.

I absolutely liked Jonathan Pryce as High Sparrow. He nailed his introduction scene I think, very good and convincing. The second highlight episode for me was Arya not throwing Needle away scene.

Slynt execution was handled better in the book, I think, but this one is acceptable too. I like Kit's acting throughout this season so far.

I'm kind of baffled about the timeline right now. LF and Sansa got from Moat Cailin to Winterfell in one episode, and Cersei's letter gets from King's Landing to Winterfell almost instantly (and apparently it was delivered to Eyrie first, then to Winterfell). Reminds me of LF teleportation skills from Season 2. Oh, and if I remember correctly, the whole point of Moat Cailin in the books was that you can't just go around it by land, so that's my another nitpick.

Now, a bit of spoilers:

One major concern regarding season 5: [AFFC/ADWD spoilers] Jaime is not going to kick it in Dorme, is he? I do hope he's not replacing Arys Oakheart in the Dorn storyline and taste Areo Otah's axe. At this point it's either him or Bronn, and the latter actually looks the least likely to survive the trip. But killing Jaime would be HUGE and to me (he's my favourite character) hugely sad and quite disappointing.

I think it'll be Bronn who bites it. His speech to Lollys in episode 2 about how the meanness always comes around, and the mean people always get what's coming to them one way or another seems like a foreshadowing of his fate, I guess.

Also, does anyone think that (end of ADWD spoilers) it'll be Olly (or whatever this kid's name on the Wall is) who stabs Jon, since Bowen Marsh apparently isn't here in the show? I mean, the kid hates wildlings, and at least in the book Jon does care about wildlings quite a lot.

[ariich]

Remember that in GoT you get jumps in timing. A number of years have passed since the events of Season 1. It's not like Breaking Bad where the whole show across it's 5 seasons only covers a year or so. GoT is spread over a long period.

[Prog Snob]

Remember that in GoT you get jumps in timing. A number of years have passed since the events of Season 1. It's not like Breaking Bad where the whole show across it's 5 seasons only covers a year or so. GoT is spread over a long period.

I'm just curious. There has to be some kind of timeline out there. Maybe it isn't as detailed and dated as Tolkien's world, but I'm sure there must be something out there.

[ariich]

I'm sure there are plenty of unofficial ones, no idea about anything official though.

Timelines are also reasonably different between the books and TV show. Obviously there are changes in the order of events (and indeed in some of the events themselves) but I think the books extend over an even longer period than the show does.

[Prog Snob]

Most definitely there are some unofficial ones that some super fan put together. I would be curious to see the difference between the book and show timelines.

[cramx3]

WHAT

THE

FUCK

That's my reaction to the old High Septon brothel scene. It was downright ridiculous, not in a good way. Other than that, I quite liked the episode.

I absolutely liked Jonathan Pryce as High Sparrow. He nailed his introduction scene I think, very good and convincing. The second highlight episode for me was Arya not throwing Needle away scene.

Slynt execution was handled better in the book, I think, but this one is acceptable too. I like Kit's acting throughout this season so far.

I'm kind of baffled about the timeline right now. LF and Sansa got from Moat Cailin to Winterfell in one episode, and Cersei's letter gets from King's Landing to Winterfell almost instantly (and apparently it was delivered to Eyrie first, then to Winterfell). Reminds me of LF teleportation skills from Season 2. Oh, and if I remember correctly, the whole point of Moat Cailin in the books was that you can't just go around it by land, so that's my another nitpick.

Now, a bit of spoilers:

One major concern regarding season 5: [AFFC/ADWD spoilers] Jaime is not going to kick it in Dorme, is he? I do hope he's not replacing Arys Oakheart in the Dorn storyline and taste Areo Otah's axe. At this point it's either him or Bronn, and the latter actually looks the least likely to survive the trip. But killing Jaime would be HUGE and to me (he's my favourite character) hugely sad and quite disappointing.

I think it'll be Bronn who bites it. His speech to Lollys in episode 2 about how the meanness always comes around, and the mean people always get what's coming to them one way or another seems like a foreshadowing of his fate, I guess.

Also, does anyone think that (end of ADWD spoilers) it'll be Olly (or whatever this kid's name on the Wall is) who stabs Jon, since Bowen Marsh apparently isn't here in the show? I mean, the kid hates wildlings, and at least in the book Jon does care about wildlings quite a lot.

Yup, Olly will stab Jon.  Olly hates the wildlings for killing his parents and just look at Olly everytime Jon stands up for the wildlings, he has a look on his face that is just screaming that he doesn't like it.

[cramx3]

Well there was a rather large body spotted in that room.



Now there's no assurance if that's The Mountain or not.

Well it appears that body has the shakes.

[Evermind]

Remember that in GoT you get jumps in timing. A number of years have passed since the events of Season 1. It's not like Breaking Bad where the whole show across it's 5 seasons only covers a year or so. GoT is spread over a long period.

Yeah, but for a raven to fly from King's Landing to Eyrie, than to Winterfell (and in fact Roose says "a rider arrived from the Eyrie") in one scene? It would take a week or even more. I think they should've moved that Qyburn - Cersei scene to the first or second episode, that would've made more sense. The way it was done, letter sent and arrived in the two back-to-back scenes, I just don't buy it at all.

[orcus116]

I may be the only one but I honestly can not tell the difference between Roose and Stannis unless I see other supporting characters. I'm sure side by side they don't really look alike but with how little we see each character the two actors look very similar.

[Dimitrius]

Slynt execution was handled better in the book, I think, but this one is acceptable too. I like Kit's acting throughout this season so far.

I was disappointed that there was no "fetch me a block" but that line worked so well in the book because of Jon's internal monologue throughout that scene, so I think the show translated it as best it could.

I would've loved Roose's "a peaceful land, a quiet people" line and that one would've worked in the conversation he and Ramsay were having.

[ariich]

I may be the only one but I honestly can not tell the difference between Roose and Stannis unless I see other supporting characters. I'm sure side by side they don't really look alike but with how little we see each character the two actors look very similar.

They're not very similar at all. You're like my dad - when watching The Prestige he couldn't tell the difference between Hugh Jackman and Christian Bale. And then got more confused when one had a twin and the other had clones.

[Dimitrius]

Besides having a similar type of haircut in the show, I don't think they look alike at all.

[hefdaddy42]

I may be the only one

You are

[Prog Snob]

I think Stannis has a much slimmer face while Bolton's head looks like a melon.

[cramx3]

I dont think they look similar as well, but Roose is not seen very often so that problem could be the reason.

[Genowyn]

With regard to timelines, I was under the impression that Sansa and the Boltons are all still at Moat Cailin. The sets didn't look very much like Winterfell if that's where we're supposed to be.

And I guess now we're using Sansa instead of fake-arya as the impetus for...