The Enemy Inside Discussion Thread

[Kotowboy]

I'm trying to limit listening to the song to once every few days so it's not that overplayed when the album arrives.

[Onno]

I'm trying to limit listening to the song to once every few days so it's not that overplayed when the album arrives.

Same here.

[RoDT]

I'm trying to limit listening to the song to once every few days so it's not that overplayed when the album arrives.

Same here.

I think i'm doing pretty good limiting myself. Can't control playing it in my head though XD

Between new DT and Ayreon, I'm about dying for new music.

[The Boomr]

I'm trying to limit listening to the song to once every few days so it's not that overplayed when the album arrives.

Same here.

I think i'm doing pretty good limiting myself. Can't control playing it in my head though XD

Between new DT and Ayreon, I'm about dying for new music.

There's new Ayreon? Where? When? Give! (don't worry Google will help me )

[dparrott]

I think i'm doing pretty good limiting myself. Can't control playing it in my head though XD

I keep hearing the chorus in my head off and on.  That's enough to sustain me.

[johncal]

I'm playing the crap out of it and it just keeps getting better!

[seasonsinthesky]

^ That.

You do it as one long piece of music essentially to make each song uniform.

This is also when you would choose the gap between tracks and if tracks fade in underneath the previous track etc etc.



- However - i'm not entirely sure if pro mastering involves twaeking the 2 tracks of every song or each instrument individually.

I'm assuming that all the individual tracks are processed during mixing and the mastering is just the left and right channels.

indeed, mastering engineers only work with the two-channel stereo mixdowns of every song.

every engineer works differently — it's still a creative field, after all! — but generally there is a mixture of processing individually per song and then overall processing as if it were one long track. sometimes you need to adjust specific things about specific songs to make them fit with the other ones; think of a compilation album where each track was recorded and mixed by different people at different studios without regard for sounding similar (as an extreme example). some mastering engineers only do this, even with albums full of songs all recorded together at the same place, because you get finer control; so even though you need a 12 limiters instead of 1 to achieve the same thing, you're trying to make sure they are all the right loudness together and as a commercial, competitive product.

personally, i rather leave final, overall EQ tweaks and limiting to an end-stage, everyone-together process; if you volume match everything so it's right, you just need one limiter to boost everything up to the final loudness you want across the board.

[Kotowboy]

Does anyone here use Waveburner for iMac ?

[dongringo]

I was blown away by the song upon first listen, listened to it about 10 times, and haven't listened to it in a few days, but only because I'm trying not to until album release. But I really, really want to listen to it because it's such a powerful song.

[seasonsinthesky]

Does anyone here use Waveburner for iMac ?

i did until i realized it sucks at plugin setting retention. it's a good example of what mastering engineers do, though; you can sequence the songs, adjust how they are spaced, apply individual and overall effects, enter the ISRC codes, etc.

[jayvee3]

I'm trying to limit listening to the song to once every few days so it's not that overplayed when the album arrives.

Same here.

I think i'm doing pretty good limiting myself. Can't control playing it in my head though XD

I'm right in the same boat. Really liked it upon first listen, and enjoying it more with each subsequent listen, but am trying to learn from the past where I listen too much, so it's still in really good context of the entire album once it arrives. Getting some of the catchyness out of my head has been tough - but of course welcome.

One thing that is helping me was picking up james' impermanent resonance - what a fantastic album. And its filling the void nicely until September 

[The Stray Seed]

I am trying to listen to it as much as I can xD And well... I must say it's easy! After tens of spins it still grows. Man... it's so powerful! To me it's like the exact opposite of OTBOA, which I grew tired of after a few listens.

[aprilethereal]

I'm starting to think that the vocal melodies are really damn great. I've been humming the first verse, the chorus and the bridge the whole day

[serrano]

I like how James is sounding on the lower register.

...And JP seems to hide a concrete brick inside the chocolate cake. 

[Kotowboy]

Does anyone here use Waveburner for iMac ?

i did until i realized it sucks at plugin setting retention. it's a good example of what mastering engineers do, though; you can sequence the songs, adjust how they are spaced, apply individual and overall effects, enter the ISRC codes, etc.

I use a preset on Waveburner that works for almost everything - provided the song isn't too loud when you import it.

Then I just tweak from there.   

I don't know anything about those ISRC codes though....

[Red_Queen]

I like how James is sounding on the lower register.

...And JP seems to hide a concrete brick inside the chocolate cake. 

I like how ,James sounds different then on the previous record, in the verse. But when you hear chorus.... ...wow welcome James.

I like it !

[johncal]

I am trying to listen to it as much as I can xD And well... I must say it's easy! After tens of spins it still grows. Man... it's so powerful! To me it's like the exact opposite of OTBOA, which I grew tired of after a few listens.

I feel pretty much the same. Although I do really like OTBOA, it definitely is DT "formulamatic" to the extreme. But hey, it was good enough to get the Grammy nomination so it did it's job and I'm sure brought in a few new fans. That's OK, I can usually guess what my wife is making me for lunch but I still enjoy it. Hey maybe it was a safe one, but you can't always be riding a wheelie.

[Fiery Winds]

This song has only grown on me the more I listen to it. 

Standout moment for me was when MM accented the transition into the first and second verses with the kick drum. So simple, yet so rhythmically satisfying. Looking forward to more tasty surprises come Sept. 24th.

[Orion1967]

I'm trying to limit listening to the song to once every few days so it's not that overplayed when the album arrives.

TBH I have listened to it exactly four times.   No more till Album day for me.  For the same reason you list 

[Zook]

The Enemy Inside is awesome. Somehow it sounded better and James sounded clearer on my good headphones, but plugged into my phone. Weird. Anyway, this song beats the hell out of their past singles, and there isn't anything I don't like about the song. Constant Motion had the boring chorus, Rite of Passage was just all around boring, and On The Backs of Angels was... Well, also boring.

I'M SO HAPPY DREAM THEATER'S NEW SINGLE ISN'T BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dongringo]

The Enemy Inside is awesome. Somehow it sounded better and James sounded clearer on my good headphones, but plugged into my phone. Weird. Anyway, this song beats the hell out of their past singles, and there isn't anything I don't like about the song. Constant Motion had the boring chorus, Rite of Passage was just all around boring, and On The Backs of Angels was... Well, also boring.

I'M SO HAPPY DREAM THEATER'S NEW SINGLE ISN'T BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!

Definitely NOT BORING. 

[chrisbDTM]

looks like Thiago & friends beat DT at playing this song live first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSJ5WQ3-VcQ

[Bertielee]

looks like Thiago & friends beat DT at playing this song live first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSJ5WQ3-VcQ

Do you think it's really live? I mean, it seems recorded and played on top as if live (see the singer). But I may be wrong...

B.Lee

Anyways, very good job from Thiago and friends.

[chrisbDTM]

looks like Thiago & friends beat DT at playing this song live first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSJ5WQ3-VcQ

Do you think it's really live? I mean, it seems recorded and played on top as if live (see the singer). But I may be wrong...

B.Lee

Anyways, very good job from Thiago and friends.

did you even watch it. it's not their usual splitscreen youtube cover. its a cell phone vid from a club

[RodrigoAltaf]

This was a freakin´awesome cover!!!

[rush-signals]

Oops, double post

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

looks like Thiago & friends beat DT at playing this song live first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSJ5WQ3-VcQ

Do you think it's really live? I mean, it seems recorded and played on top as if live (see the singer). But I may be wrong...

B.Lee

Anyways, very good job from Thiago and friends.

did you even watch it. it's not their usual splitscreen youtube cover. its a cell phone vid from a club

I think he actually meant the version they recorded in studio. It's on thagios yt page.

[Mosh]

Yea, but how is that relevant?

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

I don't know, ask him!

[RMGadelha]

Yay, Brazil ftw xD They're not from my state though, sadly

[rush-signals]

Awesome, they do some awesome covers!

looks like Thiago & friends beat DT at playing this song live first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSJ5WQ3-VcQ

[theanalogkid7]

As of today I've probably listened to the single at least 100 times, and it just keeps getting better.  The mix/master isn't bothering me as much; I supposed I've resigned myself to what it is, and that the music still kicks.  I'm getting more and more excited for the album.

[Tis BOOLsheet]

Pretty burnt out on the single. I didn't even listen to it that many times. It's just not one that sticks really.

[efx]

Listened to it twice. I like it a lot but I'd like to try and keep as much of the album as fresh as possible for release day.

[TheGreatPretender]

I haven't listened to the single in a few days... Maybe a week... Then today, I showed it to my friend, and I don't think I've ever enjoyed it as much as I did today. It's definitely a grower.