Dream Theater self titled album discussion - [SPOILER FREE DISCUSSION ONLY]

[The Letter M]

dunno if anyone've already posted it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vS5vUJ8X_A

So LaBrie would like to play Trial of Tears, Scarred, Blind Faith, Take the Time and Octavarium, huh? 

"Take The Time", eh? Only if they do the WHOLE song!!!

-Marc.

[TheGreatPretender]

"Take The Time", eh? Only if they do the WHOLE song!!!

-Marc.

Why wouldn't they?

[cyberdrummer]

Last time they played it, they omitted a section of the song (If there's a pensive fear...) for the whole tour.

[TheGreatPretender]

Last time they played it, they omitted a section of the song (If there's a pensive fear...) for the whole tour.

Was it a part of a medley? Or did they flow into another song with it? Because I'm pretty sure that would've been a Portnooy thing, since JP said he didn't like the idea of fans listening to a song and not hearing their favorite parts of it.

[BlobVanDam]

Last time they played it, they omitted a section of the song (If there's a pensive fear...) for the whole tour.

Was it a part of a medley? Or did they flow into another song with it? Because I'm pretty sure that would've been a Portnooy thing, since JP said he didn't like the idea of fans listening to a song and not hearing their favorite parts of it.

It was the whole song, minus the verse with the really high vocals.

[cyberdrummer]

No, they just skipped that section, like they did with Voices as well. It was supposedly to save JLB's voice, but I'm sure he's on record somewhere saying that he didn't actually mind. I suspect it was an MP decision, but I can't be certain.

Around the 1:50 mark here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csy_sE7XtKQ

[TheGreatPretender]

Well, if he didn't mind, then I'm sure if they were to do it again, he'd fight to keep it.

[The Stray Seed]

So LaBrie would like to play Trial of Tears, Scarred, Blind Faith, Take the Time and Octavarium, huh? 

May the stars align in our favor for this to happen. 

This!!!! I remember someone said James doesn't like to sing songs from FII, I'm glad it turned out he does!

[wasteland]

As far as I know he voiced his mild disliking for New Millennium. Not sure about the others, but I think he may feel similarly to most of the fans with regard of which songs are good on FII.

[Mladen]

https://www.prog-sphere.com/interviews/resurfacing-an-interview-with-james-labrie/

I can see a lot of references to this interview. James talks about cutting the difficult sections, as well as New millennium being one of his lesser favorites.

[Madman Shepherd]

No, they just skipped that section, like they did with Voices as well. It was supposedly to save JLB's voice, but I'm sure he's on record somewhere saying that he didn't actually mind. I suspect it was an MP decision, but I can't be certain.

Edit: I incorrectly remembered James's statements.  In one of the previous interviews posted he mentions cutting the sections from the songs so no need for my faulty recollection. 

FYI, I love the pseudo sarcastic Canadian attitude James exhibits when he's annoyed. 

[aprilethereal]

New piece of artwork is online: www.instagram.com/dreamtheater2013

[wolven74]

DT has thing for birds this time around. Not getting the connection to any of the song titles... 

[thosava]

Im pretty sure it will be a concept album about birds 

[aprilethereal]

[?]

If there wasn't a code for that emoticon already it could've been :conceptalbum:

[The Stray Seed]

Don't you know about the bird?

I don...

Brian no!!!!!!

[Laich21DT]

As far as I know he voiced his mild disliking for New Millennium. Not sure about the others, but I think he may feel similarly to most of the fans with regard of which songs are good on FII.

You might have seen something that I haven't, but I recall saying that he felt that New Millennium wasn't received well live. This was when he was asked about songs he doesn't like to perform as much as others, and I'm pretty sure he mentioned that he likes to perform all of the songs.

I don't get it, this emoticon doesn't appear for me. All I see is ":marria" in a little box, with the "a" partially cut off.

[aprilethereal]

If there wasn't a code for that emoticon already it could've been :conceptalbum:

Oh yes

I don't get it, this emoticon doesn't appear for me. All I see is ":marria" in a little box, with the "a" partially cut off.

Reload the page maybe?

[wasteland]

As far as I know he voiced his mild disliking for New Millennium. Not sure about the others, but I think he may feel similarly to most of the fans with regard of which songs are good on FII.

You might have seen something that I haven't, but I recall saying that he felt that New Millennium wasn't received well live. This was when he was asked about songs he doesn't like to perform as much as others, and I'm pretty sure he mentioned that he likes to perform all of the songs.

I don't get it, this emoticon doesn't appear for me. All I see is ":marria" in a little box, with the "a" partially cut off.

I remember JLB saying that he couldn't connect with the lyrics or the melodies at all, in the "resurfacing" interview if I remember correctly.

[liran95]

Don't you know about the bird?

I don...

Brian no!!!!!!

B-B-B-BIRD BIRD BIRD! BIRD IS THE WORD! B-B-B-BIRD BIRD BIRD IS THE WORD!

[wolven74]

Ok... Been away for a while. I get back and people seem to think I see a concept in the artwork. For the record.... I DON'T. Nor am I wishing this was a concept. It's not. However, with the last three releases from RR, the artwork has had some connection with the songs. For example: on ADTOE, the artwork on which the lyrics to Bridges in the Sky (aka The Shaman's Trance) was a dreamcatcher, commonly associated with native american shamanism. I can fully understand that connection. An example from BC&SL: The Shattered Fortress' lyrics were superimposed over a shattered bottle, indicating that it was part of the AA suite. The artwork that went with the lyrics for Prophets of War was ants carrying a bullet... All I'm saying is that, at this point, I can't connect the artwork to any of the songs on DT12. Should be interesting to see what song goes with which piece of artwork we've seen.

[dongringo]

Ok... Been away for a while. I get back and people seem to think I see a concept in the artwork. For the record.... I DON'T. Nor am I wishing this was a concept. It's not. However, with the last three releases from RR, the artwork has had some connection with the songs. For example: on ADTOE, the artwork on which the lyrics to Bridges in the Sky (aka The Shaman's Trance) was a dreamcatcher, commonly associated with native american shamanism. I can fully understand that connection. An example from BC&SL: The Shattered Fortress' lyrics were superimposed over a shattered bottle, indicating that it was part of the AA suite. The artwork that went with the lyrics for Prophets of War was ants carrying a bullet... All I'm saying is that, at this point, I can't connect the artwork to any of the songs on DT12. Should be interesting to see what song goes with which piece of artwork we've seen.

Seems to me that the drive-in theater screen has something to do with The Bigger Picture.

[King Postwhore]

Syme has done that before with the picture for a song in the booklet for Rush.  It makes sense.

[Nofire]

Insert bad post by me here.

[?]

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=26981.0

[Flacracker]

Fake. Im pretty sure that someone here that heard the album said that the drum banging part from the 4th video is on the first song not EM.

[JayOctavarium]

Don't know if this has already been posted, but there are some snippets out for some of the songs. Apparently they come from the studio. Does anyone know if these are at all trustworthy? Seems weird that Dream Theater themselves haven't mentioned them on facebook or twitter as they normally do with releases like these.

SNIP

[Meatrose]

Yeah, I would get rid of those links immediately. I can also confirm that they are 100% fake.

[ariich]

Don't know if this has already been posted, but there are some snippets out for some of the songs. Apparently they come from the studio. Does anyone know if these are at all trustworthy? Seems weird that Dream Theater themselves haven't mentioned them on facebook or twitter as they normally do with releases like these.

SNIP

Please read the rules, and in particular the thread that ? linked to below yours. In this case, those have already been confirmed as fake, but regardless, any discussion of leaked material, whether it's real or not, is against the rules. This is your only warning on the matter.

[wasteland]

You should add a rule stating explicitely that those two snippets are fake, so don't even bother taking a warning for that shizz. 

It's the fourth time those two pop up, right?

[Kotowboy]

HERD A NU DREAM THATRE SONG !!!!  ITS GUD...JAMES IS SINGING ABOUT JEKYL N HIDE... ITS REOCKIN....

[Nofire]

Don't know if this has already been posted, but there are some snippets out for some of the songs. Apparently they come from the studio. Does anyone know if these are at all trustworthy? Seems weird that Dream Theater themselves haven't mentioned them on facebook or twitter as they normally do with releases like these.

SNIP

Please read the rules, and in particular the thread that ? linked to below yours. In this case, those have already been confirmed as fake, but regardless, any discussion of leaked material, whether it's real or not, is against the rules. This is your only warning on the matter.

I apologize.

[Zydar]

More birds:

https://instagram.com/dtimages

[aprilethereal]

HERD A NU DREAM THATRE SONG !!!!  ITS GUD...JAMES IS SINGING ABOUT JEKYL N HIDE... ITS REOCKIN....

RAAAAWK