New DT Live Album/DVD?

[SeRoX]

I really just want some FII outtakes.  But that won't happen.

Assuming that each night has mostly different setlist they would enlarge "acoustic set" and add "speak to me". At least I hope.

[Cool Chris]

I really just want some FII outtakes.  But that won't happen.

With all due respect, this is the last thing this DVD needs. There are too many good songs in their catalog, including a new album full of them, that should be included over some reworked/demo versions of mediocre ones.

[TheGreatPretender]

With all due respect, this is the last thing this DVD needs. There are too many good songs in their catalog, including a new album full of them, that should be included over some reworked/demo versions of mediocre ones.

Raise The Knife is one of DT's best songs, period. Nothing mediocre about it. Having said that, Raise The Knife WAS on Score, so no need for it to be on the new one.

[ResultsMayVary]

With all due respect, this is the last thing this DVD needs. There are too many good songs in their catalog, including a new album full of them, that should be included over some reworked/demo versions of mediocre ones.

Raise The Knife is one of DT's best songs, period. Nothing mediocre about it. Having said that, Raise The Knife WAS on Score, so no need for it to be on the new one.

+1

[PetFish]

What I would love on the new DVD (apart from specific songs and commentary) is a bit of JLB banter with the crowd.

James is the worst crowd-banter'er ever.  Everything he says is awkward.  It's just not good.

[cramx3]

What I would love on the new DVD (apart from specific songs and commentary) is a bit of JLB banter with the crowd.

James is the worst crowd-banter'er ever.  Everything he says is awkward.  It's just not good.

This is true. I found it awkward when he stated at the PNC show that no one knows about the venue. I understood his point which was the crowd turn out was bad, but DT had played a bunch of times before which is why i thought it was weird to say that.

[Implode]

At the Chicago show he said he doesn't like talking to the audience much. He just prefers to sing an awesome show.

[MetropolisWatches]

What I would love on the new DVD (apart from specific songs and commentary) is a bit of JLB banter with the crowd.

James is the worst crowd-banter'er ever.  Everything he says is awkward.  It's just not good.

I'd have to agree. I like LaBrie, but he always comes off as stiff and insincere. It's odd- after all these years you would think he'd become a stronger frontman.

[Progmetty]

There isn't one song that was a reject of any of the 90's DT albums that I like.

[chrisbDTM]

between song banter matters little

[cramx3]

between song banter matters little

In the context of a DVD id agree. In a live show, its nice to have the band connect with the crowd. It certainly doesn't take away from the concert, but can make a show a bit more personal. Sometimes it can make things worse as well.

[wasteland]

What I would love on the new DVD (apart from specific songs and commentary) is a bit of JLB banter with the crowd.

James is the worst crowd-banter'er ever.  Everything he says is awkward.  It's just not good.

I beg to disagree. In Milano, last February, his interaction with the crow was spot-on, from 15 joke after 6,00 to the eulogy of the fan that died in the shipwreck.

[TAC]

James commanded the stage the other night in Boston. His banter was right on, too.

[Cool Chris]

James always seems more awkward on DVDs than he does on stage at other shows that are not filmed. Which is weird, as otherwise he is getting more and more hilarious and awesome in front of the camera.

[Setlist Scotty]

What I would love on the new DVD (apart from specific songs and commentary) is a bit of JLB banter with the crowd.

James is the worst crowd-banter'er ever.  Everything he says is awkward.  It's just not good.

I'd have to agree. I like LaBrie, but he always comes off as stiff and insincere. It's odd- after all these years you would think he'd become a stronger frontman.

With all the shows I've seen (52), I'd have to say that it varies per show - there are times when he has really been on it, and there are times when I would think "where is he going with this?" or "what is the point?" So I think both viewpoints are valid (those who say he does a great job, as well as those who say he does a bad job).

between song banter matters little

In the context of a DVD id agree. In a live show, its nice to have the band connect with the crowd. It certainly doesn't take away from the concert, but can make a show a bit more personal. Sometimes it can make things worse as well.

Agree with cramx3. And in terms of the banter making things worse, look no further than Geoff Tate telling the crowd at a QR show literally that they "suck", just weeks before being booted out of the band. Yeah, that will really encourage an audience to get into the show...   

[Zydar]

Mikael Åkerfeldt (Opeth) is one of the best when it comes to stage banter.

[BlobVanDam]

Mikael Åkerfeldt (Opeth) is one of the best when it comes to stage banter.

I'd pay just to watch that man do stand-up.

[wolfandwolfandwolf]

I really just want some FII outtakes.  But that won't happen.

With all due respect, this is the last thing this DVD needs. There are too many good songs in their catalog, including a new album full of them, that should be included over some reworked/demo versions of mediocre ones.

They can fit all nine of those bad boys in.  I just want Speak To Me.  Thx.

[Pockets17red]

Mikael Åkerfeldt (Opeth) is one of the best when it comes to stage banter.

I'd pay just to watch that man do stand-up.

[KevShmev]

What I would love on the new DVD (apart from specific songs and commentary) is a bit of JLB banter with the crowd.

James is the worst crowd-banter'er ever.  Everything he says is awkward.  It's just not good.

I hate his timing when it comes to talking over instrumental parts live.  The most obvious example that comes to mind is at the end of the long instrumental section in Beyond This Life on the Budokan DVD.  It hits the climax, and he yells, "Aright, give it up for these guys," right over it; that is terrible timing.  And he does stuff like that all of the time.

[wasteland]

I hate his timing when it comes to talking over instrumental parts live.  The most obvious example that comes to mind is at the end of the long instrumental section in Beyond This Life on the Budokan DVD.  It hits the climax, and he yells, "Aright, give it up for these guys," right over it; that is terrible timing.  And he does stuff like that all of the time.

Or him screaming "THIS IS JOON P'CCIUCCEEEI" at the climax of Hollow Years solo... that one annoyed me for years 

[TAC]

James just seems so relaxed since MP is not there. (Not trying to beat a dead horse or to derail the thread!) Plus, I love the fact the he doesn't (or rarely) swears on stage anymore. It seems to have coincided as well.

[chrisbDTM]

I hate his timing when it comes to talking over instrumental parts live.  The most obvious example that comes to mind is at the end of the long instrumental section in Beyond This Life on the Budokan DVD.  It hits the climax, and he yells, "Aright, give it up for these guys," right over it; that is terrible timing.  And he does stuff like that all of the time.

Or him screaming "THIS IS JOON P'CCIUCCEEEI" at the climax of Hollow Years solo... that one annoyed me for years 

i actually like that one 

[MoraWintersoul]

I hate his timing when it comes to talking over instrumental parts live.  The most obvious example that comes to mind is at the end of the long instrumental section in Beyond This Life on the Budokan DVD.  It hits the climax, and he yells, "Aright, give it up for these guys," right over it; that is terrible timing.  And he does stuff like that all of the time.

Or him screaming "THIS IS JOON P'CCIUCCEEEI" at the climax of Hollow Years solo... that one annoyed me for years 

i actually like that one 

I like it too!

Don't know if this is more important than the discussion on JLB's stage banter, but there are pics on the DT Facebook page, one is JP with Adrian Belew and the other shows JMX and Tony Levin (I think it was him?) with the caption of "what could they be discussing?" so... do you think it's one of those "stellar" things JLB mentioned? Guest performances?

For future reference, whenever the DVD is discussed when we've all watched it, you must mention the word stellar in every post, for everything that was new and unexpected.

[wasteland]

For future reference, whenever the DVD is discussed in the future, you must mention the word stellar in every post, for everything that was new and unexpected.

Dear God! You had a stellar idea!

[SystematicThought]

JLB is sometimes awkward with his banter on Score.

Before RTK, when he goes "We dug through....the DT....archives" in a very weird accent.

And in the end you can tell he forgot how to say Jamshied's last name.

"Thanks to Jamshied....Sharifi... and the Octavarium Orchestra"

[wasteland]

JLB is sometimes awkward with his banter on Score.

Before RTK, when he goes "We dug through....the DT....archives" in a very weird accent.

And in the end you can tell he forgot how to say Jamshied's last name.

"Thanks to Jamshied....Sharifi... and the Octavarium Orchestra"

I will never forget the way he said "Welcome to... Radio City Music Hall IN NEW YORK CITEEEEEEEEYY" before Under A Glass Moon!

[SystematicThought]

  I know what you mean

I always imagine that he's a parent on a trip with his family or something just shouting that when they get to RCMH.

He's either that or a tour guide introducing the theater to his tour group

[Jinx]

JLB is sometimes awkward with his banter on Score.

Before RTK, when he goes "We dug through....the DT....archives" in a very weird accent.

I think he's just a little out of breath still when he comes to that. Having just nailed a couple of high spots in Innocence Faded.

I have to agree with TAC, since MP has gone its like James feels now he can take the reigns and be the frontman properly, whereas maybe in the past MP was the 'frontman' so to speak and James was just there to sing. And although I much prefer this setup, I do miss how active MP was in rallying up the crowd.

[WheyWaffles]

James just seems so relaxed since MP is not there. (Not trying to beat a dead horse or to derail the thread!) Plus, I love the fact the he doesn't (or rarely) swears on stage anymore. It seems to have coincided as well.

He doesn't feel pressured to "be a badass" on stage (or even with his vocals on ADToE) anymore.  It never seemed genuine anyway.

[KevShmev]

Don't know if this is more important than the discussion on JLB's stage banter, but there are pics on the DT Facebook page, one is JP with Adrian Belew and the other shows JMX and Tony Levin (I think it was him?) with the caption of "what could they be discussing?" so... do you think it's one of those "stellar" things JLB mentioned? Guest performances?

Bring out Levin during the DT set for When the Water Breaks and heads will be exploding all over the place.

[WildeSilas]

I thought he was great in Dallas. He kept relaying the scores for some game (basketball/football/no idea?) to the crowd and joking around with JP about it. When they did the acoustic set, he explained why he liked the idea in a very sincere and heartfelt way too. Much more relaxed without MP there and he interacted quite a bit without being too 80's/cheerleader. I was impressed with his performance and charisma that night, which was a huge surprise for me (it was my first DT show) since I had always kind of considered him the weak link. He was phenomenal.

[wolfandwolfandwolf]

He was also great in Dallas this time around.  Very commanding stage presence.  Especially when John's guitar was off during the BITS intro - he came out after song 2 and handled it like a champ, even commended the road crew.

[BlobVanDam]

JLB is sometimes awkward with his banter on Score.

Before RTK, when he goes "We dug through....the DT....archives" in a very weird accent.

I think he's just a little out of breath still when he comes to that. Having just nailed a couple of high spots in Innocence Faded.

I have to agree with TAC, since MP has gone its like James feels now he can take the reigns and be the frontman properly, whereas maybe in the past MP was the 'frontman' so to speak and James was just there to sing. And although I much prefer this setup, I do miss how active MP was in rallying up the crowd.

I never got that impression at all. JLB was always the frontman, and the one addressing the crowd. MP was just active during songs to also connect with the crowd. JLB has always been a little awkward on stage, and that had nothing to do with MP.

[Mladen]

Bring out Levin during the DT set for When the Water Breaks and heads will be exploding all over the place.

I'm hoping for a King Crimson cover.