Space Dye Vest Live At Tarrytown

[toro]

Goddamnit Jordan! Why do you always have to rape every single solo that wasn't written by you?
You know, the performance was great, but I was hoping he would keep that little string solo at the end faithful to the album version, instead he went all like "let me play the first not like it its on the álbum and then *widly diddly do*"
Thats why I wasn't to happy about this, because I know Jordan shows off a lot.

Anyways it was amazing until Jordan raped the solo and killed the climax I was waiting for.

[ddtonfire]

I don't know what you're talking about. I climaxed.

[Progmetty]

I don't know what you're talking about. I climaxed.

Same here!
I used to call SDV "Dee Tee's Dyers Eve", then when Dyers Eve was played live in 2004 I stopped refering to it as such.
Now I can refer to it as Dee Tee's Dyers Eve again.
But that would be pointless as fuck.

[The Awesome]

Great job by Jordan. Vast improvement over the original.

[JLa]

Jordan "noodle-doodle" Rudess did it again... He's an amazing musician, but I am so tired of all the extra notes he tends to play.

Music isn't about how many notes you can play per second!

The performance was OK, but I still prefer the studio version. And Kevin Moore.

[Infinite Cactus]

I thoroughly enjoyed that. Thanks for the upload

Side note: LOL at the butt hurtiness of "ITS NOT THE SAME GOM GOM GOM"

[ddtonfire]

DT: Creating controversy with everything they do (or don't) do since 1985.

[Metabog]

Jordan "noodle-doodle" Rudess did it again... He's an amazing musician, but I am so tired of all the extra notes he tends to play.

Music isn't about how many notes you can play per second!

The performance was OK, but I still prefer the studio version. And Kevin Moore.

I don't know who told you this, but Jordan isn't a MIDI sequencer that just sits there and plays things back automatically.

[Nihil-Morari]

Jordan "noodle-doodle" Rudess did it again... He's an amazing musician, but I am so tired of all the extra notes he tends to play.

Music isn't about how many notes you can play per second!

The performance was OK, but I still prefer the studio version. And Kevin Moore.

I don't know who told you this, but Jordan isn't a MIDI sequencer that just sits there and plays things back automatically.

That's what he was saying. He picks those notes himself, and JLa doesn't like that style.

[salty]

So awesome.

Jordan has been in the band now for what? 11 years? People should know by now that he's a showy player.

A fucking AWESOME showy player.

Get over it. It was awesome!

[jsem]

Had it been just like the original, without the samples... it would've been strange. Jordan had to do fiddle around (even though it was a bit excessive at times...)

[hefdaddy42]

I thought it was fine.  Not sure what some people are whining about.

[ariich]

Well it's more like the Dream Theater debut, 17 years later.

It's more like it, but it still isn't Dream Theater. And therefore:

Side note: LOL at the butt hurtiness of "ITS NOT THE SAME GOM GOM GOM"

This exactly. This was a Jordan Rudess solo gig. Anyone who is disappointed that he played some fast notes clearly needs to learn how to have appropriate expectations.

Seriously on the scale of 1 to smoke-coming-out-of-ear; how annoyed is MP right now?

Yeah he's probably pretty pissed. The announcement that they made about how much they like the song is interesting (and great to hear) and makes me think that what bosk said is now sounding very probable, that Mike would rant about KevMo and the song, and the other band members would just kinda go "sure, whatever" which Mike took to be agreement. Wouldn't surprise me at all, he's that kind of person. But it's good to hear that at least some of the other members do like the song after all, I think it's the best thing on Awake, personally.

[Sigz]

I liked it.

[Elsydeon]

Phew I get home from the show last night and the power is out, nooooooo.

Anyway the show was very magical, there was so much unbelievable talent in the room last night.  
I didnt mind the "noodling" on SDV from Jordan, i thought it was great. I probably prefer the studio version, but with a full band
I think they can make it sound really awesome.
It was also awesome getting to meet quad, zbomber, and tj at the show, glad you all got to make it home alright. Also very nice recordings from
your wife tj

[Super Dude]

I liked it.

[robwebster]

Well it's more like the Dream Theater debut, 17 years later.

It's more like it, but it still isn't Dream Theater.

No less Dream Theater than when half the band went off-stage during Vacant on Score, in my books.

Even if you don't count it as Dream Theater, it's definitely Dream Theater members performing it live. That's pretty cool after it was taboo for so long.

Excellent, excellent performance. Wasn't all that hyped, but this kinda thing makes me yearn for them to do a couple more of those tiny little shows in clubs.

If the SDV performance was fine by Mebert, I'm sure it was great by my standards 

I'm also glad Jordan covered so many Porcupine Tree songs and classic prog songs. He's unfairly gotten a reputation of being all about technology and chops, when in fact he's probably the biggest 'classic prog' influence in the band.

Though it rarely shows as it seems whenever he writes with Dream Theater he tends to stick to a strictly electronic/synth metal mode instead of settling back and playing piano or playing a in more traditional clean prog type style. I know what you mean though cause I saw him play with Blackfield a few years ago and he's a completely different musician when he's up there on stage by himself. Hopefully that'll all change with the new album.

I think it's a bit wishful to expect it to change - he's already been enormously successful with it - but I've always really liked Jordan, I think he's a fantastic musician, and when I heard him described as "a bit of a hired gun" I thought it was a bit of a shame. I imagine he's going to be upgraded to a lead songwriter from here on out, which I imagine means that he'll have the biggest impact on how the band changes. Absolutely psyched for it.

[Stoneyman]

James and JR played the single most coveted and over-hyped "DT" song ever!!!!

Nothing like some SDV to get us complaining about something again!  LOL  At least the "Who is the drummer?" stuff will take a back seat for a few days.

There is a part of me that would like to hear Jordan play simply without all of the little flourishes and appregios he adds, but that is his style and I have grown to accept it.  I am thankful to CJS and JR for dusting this one off and giving it a try.  We werent gonna ever hear it from KM or DT anyway.

Thanks for recording and uploading.  JR and CJS are really keeping the hype up amongst the fan base.

[RoeDent]

Some people are never happy. Or they just like to moan.

[Nihil-Morari]

Some people are never happy. Or they just like to moan.

I disagree. I don't like the way they played Space Dye Vest. When I head the news I could only imagine how great the performance was going to be. But I didn't expect they'd make this of it. Of course: it's Jordan's style. And of course: James has been breathing a lot within each sentence lately, just to get the good notes.
But I don't like the way they played it, can I be disappointed? Yes, I can.

[Quadrochosis]

This thread amuses me, for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, while it's cool that they played the song, why are people making such a big deal and calling it the "worldwide debut" etc? I'm 99.9% certain it's been played before, and wouldn't be surprised if KevMo has played it at some point.

Also, why make such detailed comparisons to the original? This is a cover version in a JR solo gig, it was clearly going to differ a lot from the original.

Actually I dont think KM ever did it live... AFAIK atleast.

There's a live version of him doing it on a fan bootleg called Uncovered.

Also, I felt like an ass, but when JLB was singing the "never be open again" lines I couldn't help it but crack up pretty loudly.

[Nihil-Morari]

That's an in studio demo, if I remember correctly.

[jonny108]

I really liked that performance.  I'm glad they did it and Quadro, what was funny about that?  Did I miss something?  

[Elsydeon]

I saw you crack up quad lol. Made me laugh too

[Jamesman42]

This was fantastic, gave me chills to watch.

I agree with that Nihil-Morari guy dude man on that adding some reverb to JLB would've been great, give it more atmosphere. IMHO.

Enjoy the song for what it is.

[Elsydeon]

This was fantastic, gave me chills to watch.

I agree with that Nihil-Morari guy dude man on that adding some reverb to JLB would've been great, give it more atmosphere. IMHO.

Enjoy the song for what it is.

you need just the right amount of reverb for the perfect pitcchhhhhhh

[Mebert78]

Wow, I just woke up and it's sinking in that I saw SDV played live last night.  What a moment.  I wish I could've sang along or spoke the sample parts out loud, lol, but it was a quiet piano recital type of atmosphere.  I think Jordan did a good job.  Perhaps he could've had the Turkish keyboardist come out and play the string parts at the end on a second keyboard.  That might've been cool.  But the samples would've been out of place last night.  Jordan did a nice job.  I'm honored I was in attendance.

On my drive to work this morning I blasted SDV trying to hear KM's voice under JLB.  But I can't.

[Perpetual Change]

Wow, I just woke up and it's sinking in that I saw SDV played live last night.  What a moment.  I wish I could've sang along or spoke the sample parts out loud, lol, but it was a quiet piano recital type of atmosphere.  I think Jordan did a good job.  Perhaps he could've had the Turkish keyboardist come out and play the string parts at the end on a second keyboard.  That might've been cool.  But the samples would've been out of place last night.  Jordan did a nice job.  I'm honored I was in attendance.

On my drive to work this morning I blasted SDV trying to hear KM's voice under JLB.  But I can't.

I heard if you slow the samples in 6:00 down to a crawl and play them backwards, you can hear Kevin singing Space-Dyed Vest.

[PlaysLikeMyung]

Great performance, although I think the samples really belong in there.

I pray now that the whole band will do this when they tour. It would be so much more epic

[?]

Wow, that was a great performance! I still prefer the album version. Actually I listened to SDV recently and have to say that the first 2 verses sound as if there were 2 singers. But from the "there's no one to take my pain..." part until the end, I only notice James' voice.

Seriously on the scale of 1 to smoke-coming-out-of-ear; how annoyed is MP right now?

He'd probably be like "FFFFUUUU..." if DT added this to their setlist and it became a live staple! 

[RoeDent]

For me, recent events have shown how much power MP had over the other members of DT, past and present. I wonder if the other members ever wanted to add SDV to a setlist, but MP said no, because of bitterness toward KM?

[Zukuduku]

Wow! I was a bit nervous to listen because I read the thread through before listening. But I definitely think that JR and JLB did a great job with the song. The tempo could have been a bit slower, but Jordan's "embellishments" fit the song very well as there were no samples.

An insteresting bit of info was that it was actually JLB who suggested the song to JR. JR although has written in some sheet music book that he loves the song.

I think it's a bit wishful to expect it to change - he's already been enormously successful with it - but I've always really liked Jordan, I think he's a fantastic musician, and when I heard him described as "a bit of a hired gun" I thought it was a bit of a shame. I imagine he's going to be upgraded to a lead songwriter from here on out, which I imagine means that he'll have the biggest impact on how the band changes. Absolutely psyched for it.

If that will happen, the new album is going to be awesome!

[KevShmev]

While it bothers me when Rudess overplays on DT stuff that he didn't originally play on, I didn't mind his extra stuff in this.  Considering piano was the only instrument, some of the embellishments helped with the climax and emphasizing certain crescendos (that normally would/could have been done by the other instruments).  Overall, they did a good job with it.  Would love to see DT start playing it. 

[robwebster]

While it bothers me when Rudess overplays on DT stuff that he didn't originally play on, I didn't mind his extra stuff in this.  Considering piano was the only instrument, some of the embellishments helped with the climax and emphasizing certain crescendos (that normally would/could have been done by the other instruments).  Overall, they did a good job with it.  Would love to see DT start playing it. 

I think it'd be pretty tricky to refer to what he does on SDV here as overplaying. It's full of nifty classical flourishes, but as you say, they just help to give it extra volume. They're just a sensible shift of focus when transposing the entire song onto a piano.

I know this isn't technically a Dream Theater gig, but I never thought we'd be discussing the pros and cons of how Jordan chooses to play Space Dye Vest live... never thought we'd be sitting around musing over how good James LaBrie's choices of songs to play were, and absolutely never thought that KevShmev would be kicking around on the internet musing on how well Jordan played what's since become Kev's signature song.



Speaking of the fact that James nominated it... does this make anyone else kinda think that perhaps that bit of acquired wisdom about the band not being interested in playing rarities might've been a little bit... well, wrong? I remember everyone (and possibly MP himself, although I could absolutely be misremembering on that account so I'm not going to put words in his mouth) going on about how if it weren't MP in charge of the setlists, we'd never get spoiled with all these B-Sides or songs from WDADU and the odd curiosities and we'd just get Pull Me Under each night and blah blah blah.

But DT haven't even played a single gig yet and James has already gone to Jordan and said "hey, you know that eighteen-year-old song that neither of us wrote? Let's dig that out and play it live, it's pretty cool and I bet the fans would love to see it."



Actually, on that note, is it just me, or are DT getting a lot cooler lately? Not saying MP was holding them back... the man was absolutely prolific and I'm grateful for every single second he was in the band. But they seem to be doing no wrong. Spoiling us with twitter accounts and little gigs on the side and rarities all sorts of wee trinkets - drummer announcement or no. Which is either setting them up for a massive fall, or it might end up being considered the moment the band grew the beard.

Amazing that twenty-six years into their career and it feels like the most exciting bits could still be yet to come. They're firing on more cylinders than they ever have in the past. DT are f'ing unique.

[Voyage 34]

Love it. Thanks so much for uploading.

Does this mean that we might get to hear SDV on a DT tour?